Why Nash should never be a Sens

by puikiou on Feb 22, 2012 5:18 PM EST

2011:

1- Foward Mike Richards (27 yo, 14 goals, 16 assists, 30 points, 52 gp)

acquired from the Philadelphia Flyers for:

Wayne Simmonds: (23 yo, 22 goals, 17 assists, 39 points, 59 gp) + Highly touted prospect Brayden Schenn (20 yo, 8 goals, 3 assits, 11 points, 31 gp)

2- Foward Jeff Carter (27 yo, 15 goals, 10 assists, 25 points, 39 gp)

acquired from the Philadelphia Flyers for:

Jakub Voracek: (22yo, 10 goals, 23 assists, 33 points, 58gp) + Sean Couturier (18yo, 10 goals, 11 assists, 21 points, 55 gp) + 3rd round pick

Those are just two recent exemple of Nash-like trade and I could put out several others that are even less pretty.

Trade for Nash would require way more than what Columbus and LA gave away to get Carter and Richards, which means that trade would seriously put a dagger in our rebuild plan.

That trade would add a 7,8 million cap hit per year through 2018

I think It's an high price to pay for a guy that has reached the 70 points mark once in 9 years as an nhler.

Many people think that with a premium centerman, nash could put out 50 goals seasons but who really knows?? Dustin penner was seen as a 50 goals scorer at some point too. Are you really willing to pay 7,8m for a player that need another one to perform??

We don't have scoring problems this year and likely won't be concerned about that aspect of the game for the years to come with prospects like: Silfverberg, Stone, Prince, Zibanejad, to name only those, coming up. Will we have enough cap space to give all those guys their fair chances to play on the team for the years to come with Nash eating 7,8m through 2018?

Personally, I'd rather bet on one of our prospects to pan out than pay the the sky and the earth to get Nash.

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I would love Nash in an ideal world

But it’s not an ideal world. We would probably have to give up too much to get him and making a move for him would hurt our depth. I do think that he is better than both Richards and Carter though.

by Amelia L on Feb 22, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions

I don't agree with "Nash should never be a Sen"

I do agree with “Colombus probably wants more than Nash is worth to Ottawa”

by B_T on Feb 22, 2012 5:50 PM EST reply actions 5 recs

That's a really concise version of what I came here to post

Rec’d.

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by Mark Parisi on Feb 22, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions

I sec that rec

Should NEVER be a Sen? I read the headline and was all like, whaaaaaa? I’d get him for the right price – but he’ll be sold to the highest overbidder.

by tugnutt'n'rhodes on Feb 23, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions

I triple that rec

He’d be a good addition, but not for what the going rate would be.

by The Tif on Feb 23, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions

Well said

Thanks for saying it so well. Yes, it’d be great to get Nash. No, it wouldn’t be great what we’d have to give up. And no it wouldn’t be great when it came time to pay others and there was no cap space left… no matter how many goals or points Nash produced.

Teams that don’t develop enough players themselves and get into these ridiculous bidding wars for players, ultimately end up like the current Leafs and Habs… gaping holes to fill and no cap space to fill them with.

There is no shortage of forward prospects here that we need to sell the farm to acquire one.

by Marvellous on Feb 23, 2012 7:32 AM EST reply actions

RDS/TSN a dit

The current price for Nash is current roster player, 1st round pick and 2 high prospects.

by Bikini Cowboy on Feb 23, 2012 11:14 AM EST reply actions

Yeouch

Definitely not worth that price to Ottawa.

Maybe to a team with imbalanced depth, though.

by B_T on Feb 23, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions

The roster player is the only part of the Nash demands that scare me

What are we going to do with all our prospects when they develop and need playing time? I’m not advocating trading for Nash, but the success rates of prospects have been well documented on this site. Trading some of these prospects and picks for an established first line player, ideally not Nash (guy’s never scored 80 points), but someone like Corey Perry, Bobby Ryan, or some of the other first line players who have been rumoured to be available then we should do that. It would be lovely to believe that all our prospects will develop, but they won’t and I trust our management to know more about our own prospects than any other team’s management, and therefore which prospects to move.

by ojc on Feb 23, 2012 1:00 PM EST reply actions