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Silver Nuggets: Ottawa's record against playoff teams

The Ottawa Senators have a 24-14-6 record against the eastern conference, or 1.23 points per game. While the Senators have done slightly better against non-playoff teams, the spread isn't as big as one might think. Against the seven other playoff teams, Ottawa is 12-8-2 or 1.18 points/game while against the seven non-playoff teams, the Senators are 12-6-4 for 1.27 points/game. The Senators have won 12 out of 22 games against both the playoff and non-playoff teams, but had a couple extra overtime losses to the bottom seven.

In fact, Ottawa has at least a point per game against every eastern conference playoff team except Boston, against whom they are 0-3-0. Their games against non-playoff teams include a record of 0-2-1 against Washington and 1-2-0 against Montréal.

Considering potential first round opponents, the Senators match up well. Aside from the winless record against Boston, they are 2-1-0 against the Rangers, 3-0-0 against the Panthers, 1-0-1 against the Devils, 1-1-1 against the Flyers, 2-1-0 against the Penguins, 0-2-1 against the Capitals and 2-1-0 against the Jets. That is a combined 11-9-3 record against potential opponents.

Another interesting fact is that the Senators are only 7-8-1 against their own division while the Bruins are 13-3-0. In games against the other two eastern divisions as well as the west, the Senators have a 24-14-7 record for 55 points in 45 games (1.22 points/game) while the Bruins have a 22-17-2 record for 46 points in 41 games (1.12 points/game).

More after the jump.

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Here are today's links:

  • Recap from yesterday's big 6-0 win. (Silver Seven, Lighthouse Hockey, Ottawa Sun, Senators Extra)
  • The Senators playoff odds are up to 84.8% with yesterday's win. (Sports Club Stats)
  • Eugene Melnyk returned to Toronto radio to sing the praises of Erik Karlsson, saying that he could be one of the greatest defencemen of all time. OF ALL TIME! Melnyk also mentioned that Bryan Murray doesn't feel like the Senators need to add anything. (The 6th Sens)
  • Does Erik Karlsson deserve to win the Norris? In the last 30 years, only five times has a defenceman won the scoring race by at least 15+ points like Karlsson looks likely to do. All five times, the defenceman finished second at the worst in voting. And if Karlsson can lead defencemen in goals, assists and points? In the last 30 years, that's happened 11 times and 9 times has resulted in a first or second place finish. The only two exceptions were when the defencemen finished with -18 and -25 plus-minus rating. (Sportsnet)
  • Should the fact that Erik Karlsson doesn't regularly play the penalty kill disqualify him from the Norris? To me, if the Norris is for the best overall hockey player that is a defenceman, the winner should be Karlsson. If it is about performing in all aspects of the game, then Karlsson shouldn't win. (Welcome To Your Karlsson Years)
  • The NHL's leaders front page is full of Senators. Jason Spezza is fourth in points, Erik Karlsson is third in assists and Craig Anderson is tied for fourth in wins. (NHL.com)
  • Karlsson defends his good friend Andre Petersson after Petersson's comments about the city of Binghamton. (Ottawa Citizen)
  • Sergei Gonchar wants to be a part of Ottawa's playoff run and Paul MacLean is happy to have him. (Ottawa Sun)
  • Do you want to be an NHL insider? Here's how! (On The Forecheck)
  • Is hockey returning to the pre-lockout days of calling hooking and clutching? Power plays are significantly down and only two NHL players are on pace for more than 41 goals right now. Steven Stamkos is on pace for 57 in 82 games and Evgeni Malkin is on pace for 46 in 75 games. In the first year after the lockout, five players hit 50+ and nine had 43 or more goals. Corey Perry led the league with 50 goals last year. (Ottawa Citizen)

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i like any match-up except the Bruins and Devils

tho we’ve faired well against them some years, i just feel like they are rolling right now (Devils). Bruins – i don’t trust the likes of Marchand and Lucic not to try and run Karlsson, Spezza, Alfie on successive nights. I’m not so much worried even about the series against the Bruins but the general health of our stars.

by west-sider on Feb 21, 2012 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'd love a matchup against NJ

Kovalchuk vs Spezza would make for an epic 1 vs 2 overall battle. Plenty of swedes on both sides, including Larsson vs Karlsson. And Brodeur? He’s ripe for the picking at this stage from an Ottawa point of view (fortunately for the Devils, he has Volchenkov’s help).

It would be a fun series to follow.

by LeTigre on Feb 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Scanlan focuses on powerplays and that's an interesting angle

But I figured the decline in top scorers’ totals deserves some more context, so here’s a look at league scoring more generally.


We see overall scoring has dropped about 12% from the 2005-2006 peak. That should be noticeable.

The drop in scoring is 3.7% since 2009-2010, which I’d think would be imperceptible to the viewer – it adds up to one fewer goal in every five games. Coincidentally, this year’s scoring is about 3.7% higher than the pre-lockout figure.

Compared to before the lockout, the viewer should expect to see one extra goal in every 317 minutes of hockey. In 2006, compared to the pre-lockout season, one could expect to see one extra goal in every 66 minutes of hockey.

Note: I am presuming that the NHL team stats page ignores shooutout goals (and doesn’t count a shootout win as an extra goal). If I’m wrong, then the above data should probably be ignored.

by whereverjustice on Feb 21, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah scoring was 13.6% higher in 05-06 than now and a lot closer to pre-lockout numbers than the highs of 05-06.

I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.

Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan

by Adnan on Feb 21, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Expected?

Given they changed the rules of game to open up scoring, you’d expect scoring to increase.

I’d propose that a regression in the other direction is natural as teams adjust their defensive systems to the new rules.

by Joebo on Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He also says Sens miss playoffs though. :(

I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.

Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan

by Adnan on Feb 21, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently we haven’t convinced everyone yet. :)

by Ibanez_Guy on Feb 21, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I think that argument keeps getting harder to maintain

Who below us seems more likely to get in? A win tomorrow will really help with this.

by Amelia L on Feb 21, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta be either the Jets or Caps

Though I don’t know that I’d call them more likely to get in than Ottawa.

by B_T on Feb 21, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

With the amount of struggling teams in the East, I don't really see a question.

The only reason the Leafs are still in 8th is that the teams below them have been losing horribly. I’m thinking the Jets and Panthers make it, and the Caps, Leafs don’t.

by Pmoron on Feb 21, 2012 3:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And the only reason we're not in 9th is because we turned things around for the road trip

But we’re still 4-4-2 in the last 10. Boston is 4-6-0, Philly is 3-5-2.

Hell, 6 of the top 10 teams in the east are at .500 or below in their last 10.

That number of struggling teams gives a huge opportunity for any team that can turn things around to jump up in the standings.

by B_T on Feb 21, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That does seem to be where it’s trending, though the Jets have got a bit of a hill to climb. Plus, with the Leafs out, the Universe remains in its correct orientation.

I would imagine that the Sens will finish 7th, unless someone above us starts failing hard.

by Ibanez_Guy on Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we're a playoff bubble team

Sitting in 7th after getting 7 of 8 points in last 4 games against inferior teams is not a strong statement that we’ve locked up a playoff spot. We’ve got 2 games against boston in the next 4, so we’ll likely be right back on the bubble after those.

by Joebo on Feb 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It may not be much of a statement (though 6-2 and 6-0 are statements against any team), but it is probably more representative of the competition we will be facing in the coming weeks.

Sure, Boston three more times will sting (I am hopeful we can just take at least one to OT or whip out a surprise), but we also have the Isles (x2), Canadiens (x3), Sabres and five games against the lowly Southeast. Now, I’m not saying we are going to take em all, but that’s a lot of real good chances to put some distance.

Hawks, Rangers, Flyers and the Pens could pose problems. Leafs and Devils (x2) are wild cards to me.

Anyway, we are definitely a bubble team, but I would say we’re at the top of the bubble. :)

by Ibanez_Guy on Feb 21, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Some Murray quotes from today via Steve Lloyd
Murray says he spoke to a couple of GM’s today about trying to make a “hockey trade”. He’s also had 3 calls on Zibanejad. #Sens

Murray thinks this team as is has chance to win more than a round if they can get in because of how much “O” they get from back-end. #Sens

So…he thinks we have a chance for conference finals?

I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.

Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan

by Adnan on Feb 21, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

BM is being optimistic

As he should be. If we finish in 7th, that means we meet either Boston or Rangers in the first round, and then either Boston or Rangers in the second round. Those are some pretty long odds.

However, two (or was it three years ago), the Habs beat both top seeds, so I guess it’s possible.

by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Feb 21, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

I wouldn’t let BM make any significant trades for this year unless we beat the bruins this upcoming week. Is the trade deadline before or after the 2nd game (28th)?

Now if he swings a trade for Suter or similar top 2 young defenseman, signed for next year, let him at it!

by Joebo on Feb 21, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he means...

…that we will be wearing the Heritage jerseys? :D

That’s a lot of O!!!!

by Ibanez_Guy on Feb 21, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

OOOOOO YEAH!

Either Hulk Hogan or Kool Aid Man. Your pick.

by The Tif on Feb 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

jets and leafs get 1 pt each

Sens gotta get a coozier gap!

by AAZZ on Feb 21, 2012 11:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Playoff questions

I’m coming from Japan on family business and hoping to be there when the playoffs are on (and teh Sens make it). Some questions for the wise, your responses are very much appreciated:

1. When are the playoffs starting? Last day of the season is April 7th
2. If Ottawa doesn’t have home advantage then when might games 3 & 4 be played? Game 6?
3. Most impostantly, how hard are tickets going to be for an out of towner? Scalping or otherwise? And anyone what to guess the scalping prices of the 100 level seats?

by yukigunigaijin on Feb 21, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Keep an eye on the Ottawa Senators website.

Tickets go on sale for season ticket holders first, then others. I don’t think you’ll need to scalp tickets, but you would have to be online when they’re released to get tickets.

by The Tif on Feb 21, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Goody. I get to stay awake 24 hours a day

methinks I’ll be scalping.
any idea on the start of playoffs?

by yukigunigaijin on Feb 22, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Playoffs usually start on the Wednesday after season ends. Although this year the season ends on a Saturday, so it is possible it starts on Tuesday.

My complete guess for when Ottawa hosts a potential game 3 if they make playoffs is any where between 14 April, 15 April or 16 April.

I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.

Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan

by Adnan on Feb 22, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Greg Sherman traded a top-pair defenseman (Kyle Quincey) for Steve Downie today

Bryan Murray, pick up the phone and tell Sherman what you want for Kuba!

Also, Quincey was then sent to the Red Wings for a first-round pick. A FIRST.

by JonathanA on Feb 22, 2012 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, stuff like that is said all the time

That doesn’t mean he’s actually off the market. Talk is cheap. If an offer comes along, it’ll be listened to.

by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 22, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that's the right approach

The return we’d have to get for Kuba would have to outweigh his value to the team. Considering that he’s the steadying presence that lets Karlsson be awesome, that’s a really tall order, especially when you consider that Karlsson being awesome is our best chance of winning a playoff series.

Silver Seven - The Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa Senators Blogs

by Mark Parisi on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

NEXT GAME INFO

Hey-I like the little spot where you have the current lines on the front page of this site BUT why don’t you have a little area where it says who they play next and when??

by Marlboro man on Feb 22, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

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