Silver Nuggets: Should the Senators call up Robin Lehner?
by Adnan on Feb 2, 2012 1:00 PM EST
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PrintIn yet another Eugene Melnyk interview, he mentioned that Bryan Murray might call up Robin Lehner for a few games at the end of the season. But should Ottawa call up Lehner right now? Based on his numbers from this season, Lehner doesn't deserve an NHL call-up. His 3.19 goals against average might be a result of the quality of Binghamton's team, but his .909 save percentage is average at best.
My personal feeling is that Lehner will perform better in the NHL than he will in the AHL. He has already played lights out for an entire playoff stretch, including multiple overtime wins, a penalty shot save facing elimination, and winning a title in his first professional season. Then to go from that to starting in the AHL regular season again, it's like starting a video game at the medium level and beating it, then restarting the game on easy. You want to go up a level, not down again. Will the motivation still be there?
That aside, Lehner hasn't had a good season (though he thinks he is a better goalie now than last year), but is he a better option than Alex Auld? Auld hasn't started a game since 30 December and hasn't started and finished the same game since 16 December. He also has as many NHL wins (1) as Lehner this season.
King Robin will be able to provide Anderson a rest from time to time, and it also gives the Senators a chance to test him in meaningful NHL games selectively, without throwing him to the wolves. There is also Lehner's belief that he benefits more from practising against NHL shooters than he does by playing games in the AHL.
Here are today's links:
- The Senators worked on their power play today with the units being: Greening-Spezza-Neil, Karlsson-Gonchar and Foligno-Turris-Michalek, Alfredsson-Kuba. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
- Kerry Fraser weighs in on the refereeing in the Ottawa-Boston game. He feels that Ottawa deserved only one power play on the night but that the Bruins deserved five additional power play chances to the four they already received. Notably, he also felt Chris Neil embellished to try drawing a penalty, but got away with it because Dan O'Rourke was under pressure for calling Erik Karlsson a diver. (TSN)
- Another article on Erik Karlsson's contract negotiations and Jared Crozier suggests a 7-year $49 million deal. The dollar value is pretty high, but is Karlsson worth any less to the team than Jason Spezza, especially in the future? (SenShot)
- Daniel Alfredsson's future with Ottawa rests in the hands of Bibi Alfredsson. Daniel has implied he wants to be back, but needs the approval of Bibi. Daniel and Bibi will discuss this over the next few days. Stay tuned! (Ottawa Sun)
- Jason Spezza, Erik Karlsson and Daniel Alfredsson have no problems with the referees, at least publicly. (Ottawa Sun)
- The Senators playoff chances are still at 70% but well down from the 95% range that they use to be. (Sports Club Stats)
- From A to Z, the Senators alphabet soup for the rest of the season. (The 6th Sens)
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TSN already saying Andy starting tomorrow
He was once called the worst participant Cirque du Soleil ever had.
by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions
Can't imagine Auld getting Leafs game either
Even if it is back-to-back.
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by Adnan on Feb 2, 2012 1:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
And I like Andy getting the start against NYI. Give him a chance to get back on his game after a crappy one. He’s already had too long to dwell on it as it is.
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There is that.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
It really wasnt a crappy game, He gave up a crappy fluke goal, but he didnt play a crappy game
by SensSational19 on Feb 2, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
He gave up 2 bad goals. It was a crappy game.
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Which two exactly?
Can’t really fault him on the Third one, Phillips should have won that battle with Marchand
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Feb 2, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
yeah Phillips should have won battle, but Anderson still bobbed a pretty easy shot for it to get loose if I recall correctly.
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Maybe
But those will happen, your 6 foot 4 defenceman should help you on that end, since Andy helps him out quite often. I just feel crappy’s a little harsh
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Feb 2, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Defencemen clear out rebounds all the time. It wasn’t the best rebound to let out but it also wasn’t the worst considering there was traffic in front of him that could disrupt his view. He made the first save…and the second save and Mr. Retirement Contract stood there with his thumb up his butt as a 5’8 midget outmuscled him for a third chance.
No excuses on the 4th goal. That was U-G-L-Y, he ain’t got no alibi.
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 2, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
He was fighting the puck a bit, to be honest
Regardless of blame for any game, we’d prefer he not get his confidence rattled.
He was once called the worst participant Cirque du Soleil ever had.
by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
King Robin?!
I thought we were past this.
Anyhow, I’d be against calling up Lehner because it’s obvious that Anderson’s going to get the bulk of playing time. I’d rather have Drago play than watch, which means he should be staying in the AHL.
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King Robin will live on through the ages!
Well by me anyway. Drago is a #*!@ing awful nickname.
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by Adnan on Feb 2, 2012 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As usual, you are wrong
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by Mark Parisi on Feb 2, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But Americans are 100% more likely to be wrong than Canadians.
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Depends
Not on topics such as “Who has the best superbowl commercials?” or “Where is the nearest Friendly’s?”
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by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Lehner is struggling - regardless of the team
He’s had 1 3/4 seasons in the AHL, and still due to injury, suspensions & call ups and inconsistent play has yet to establish himself as the go to guy in the regular season in the AHL. Mike McKenna is getting the start again in their next game. Robin may believe he is a better goalie than he was a this time last year, but his numbers and record suggest otherwise. Despite the fact that he got hot and played well when it mattered, I’d like to see Robin play well in the stretch run, establish himself as the #1 in Bingo when the games don’t so much matter. If he can put a month or a month and a half in of consistent starts, then sure, give him a call up for the last part of March and let him spell of Anderson for a couple of games. But so far Lehner has done nothing to show that he will be any better an option than Alex Auld at this point.
I don’t see why Auld wouldn’t be given a shot in the next couple games, who knows, he may throw up a win while standing on his head. No reason to think he can’t, he’s always been a solid backup goaltender. I know his numbers haven’t been spectacular, but Craig needs a rest eventually.
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THIS. x 1,000,000 Internet Points
Lehner has done nothing at the professional level, apart from one playoff run, that indicates that he is ready for the NHL. Goalies can get hot in extreme competition (see: Pogge, Justin) so put me in the group that thinks his Calder run was awesome but by no means should be considered the sample from which all his play will derive.
After two years, he’s yet to usurp the #1 position in the AHL and play a full season schedule. This year has only delayed his development and I would be very surprised to see him in the NHL next season as Anderson’s back-up. He’s still a project at best and his rebound control is still questionable.
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 2, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely agree.
Lehner needs to DOMINATE at the AHL level to show he’s ready for the NHL. Right now he’s not and until he does, I see no reason to call him up.
Um... I guess I missed something...
But isn’t winning the AHL Playoff MVP indicative of “DOMINATING” at the AHL level? Especially if that includes 19GP with a .939 SVPCT ? Not to mention 4 straight overtime wins, including stopping a penalty shot in overtime?
Why can’t Lehner be right in saying that he learns more at the NHL level than he does at the AHL level? Why would he have anything left to prove in his own mind? Wouldn’t you rather he was in the NHL learning from a #1 NHL goalie in Craig Anderson, than learning from career AHL’er in Mike McKenna?
Yes he hasn’t put up stellar numbers, but lets not forget here, Binghamton has been AWFUL this year. There are multiple reasons that they were at the bottom of the standings, not many of which have to do with goaltending.
It’s the same argument for or against sending Z-bad back to sweden, yes he gets more minutes in the AHL, but is that really the best thing for his development?
I'd point Zibanejad's performance in the World Juniors as a "yes"
The problem with claiming Lehner dominated last year is that there’s a small sample size. As always with NHL-caliber players, the issue is not talent—it’s consistency. Believing that Lehner is ready to play in the NHL based on his playoff performance is like believing that Butler was going to score 40 this season based on his second-half finish.
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It is indicative of dominance, yes
But if we’re looking for sustained dominance, his numbers this season are far from it: 3.19GAA, 90.9SP, 7-13-1 record… his team might not have given him as much support as he needs, but Lehner’s been pedestrian this season. The Murrays wanted more, I’m sure.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 3, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Seems to me like Lehner is more putting in time until he is called up
Not actively trying to be a better goaltender. He seems to have a little too mcuh cockiness, a little too much of a sense of entitlement. There is a reason BM wanted him to ride the busses for a season. I can’t imagine that management have been overly thrilled with his development and his progress this season, despite what the owner may say about him.
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Everyone thinks they have enough.
The owner said Murray wants to call him up, if you take him at face value. Granted it is Melnyk and all though.
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I don't really see anything wrong with his development
He’s playing behind an inexperienced team. This season has always been about playing time and not stats as far as I’m concerned. It would have been delusional to expect him to maintain his playoff stats through an entire season. He’s taking his lumps and learning about consistency and adversity. Those are important, in my opinion.
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He’s still doing worse than Mike McKenna, and they play with the same guys in front of them.
That’s not necessarily a long-term concern for me, but it definitely shows me that he’s still got plenty to learn about being a pro goaltender in North America.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 3, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't expect him to maintain playoff numbers.
and I realize the team is nowhere near as experienced or talented as last years team. It also hasn’t helped that the team has been decimated by injury. I did however expect him to play 60 games, and though I realize his injuries have limited his ability to play that many games, I would have though KK would have given him back the reins when he returned from injuries and suspensions. However, McKenna keeps getting the starts. Given that his AHL time is supposed to be about playing time, which equals development, that fact that he isn’t getting the bulk of the playing time leads me to be disappointed in his development. So far this season, Lehner has only played 44% of the minutes in net, a far cry from 75%.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
But part of that is because he's been outplayed by McKenna
KK’s primary job is to win games, so he’s going to start the goalie he thinks gives him the best chance to do so, just like how Brust started the playoffs last year.
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Thats my point
Lehner isn’t developing as I would have hoped that he would have. I expected him to play the bulk of the games because he deserved to play the bulk of the games, and this would mean his development was on track. Because he isn’t playing the bulk of games because McKenna gives the team a better chance to win games, that says to me that Lehner isn’t developing as I expected. Therefore, I don’t think he deserves a call up to the NHL at this point. I’d like to see him win the starters job and carry the team for 15 – 20 games down the stretch to earn a call up.
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I don't follow that logic
“You haven’t been performing like we expected, here’s your promotion”?
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I know he is a goaltender, but what did Cowen do last year than Lehner didn’t do? Cowen came up in the middle of the playoffs and was great and then came to the NHL.
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True
Any goalie will put up similar numbers on a horrible team. A 910 save % is pretty good I find, usually if you see an over 3 GAA, the save % is sub 90
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Feb 2, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Cowen had the good will of playing at a high level for many years in junior which THEN followed a Cup run.
Lehner played well during a Cup run but didn’t do enough in the regular season previous to usurp the starter role from Barry Brust. That followed only one year in junior for the Soo.
Lehner doesn’t have a big enough body of work at the NA level to be afforded an opportunity at the NHL level yet. Especially when it has been shown time and time again that goalies can go on “hot streaks” of 10 to 15 games and implode spectacularly after. The NHL is littered with the bodies of “can’t miss” goaltending prospects who swore up and down they were ready for the NHL.
I want Henrik Lundqvist, not Al Montoya. There is no rush in bringing him up for spot duty. Murray should find a suitable back-up if the coaching staff has no faith in Auld. Heck, Nittymaaki was just put on waivers. The Sens should have grabbed him.
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 2, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
I like where you're at with this one
I’m worried about either his attitude or his focus
He was once called the worst participant Cirque du Soleil ever had.
by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
You can't really compare a defenceman and a goalie in this regard
The Senators needed defensive depth, and a team can very easily phase in a young defender if they think it’s necessary—even if he only plays 15 minutes a night, he’ll still be benefiting from the NHL experience.
With Lehner, the Senators didn’t need him—they already had Anderson, and Lehner hasn’t given us any reason to believe he’s better than Andy. A young goalie is probably better off playing more games in the AHL than few games in the NHL. Lehner isn’t getting as many games as we’d like, but if he can’t beat Mike McKenna out for the starter’s job in Binghamton, why do we think he’d be able to beat Craig Anderson out in Ottawa?
And let’s not forget the maturity factor. Lehner’s a fun kid to listen to, but I don’t think Ottawa brass have been too impressed with his behaviour. That’s never really been an issue with Cowen.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 3, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
I think a backup goalie is a lot easier to phase in then a defenceman personally. He’d play like every 4-5 games against easier opponents.
He’s not being brought in to replace Anderson right now, he would be bought in to replace Auld and allow Anderson nights off. No one is saying he will beat out Anderson.
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This tells me that you really don’t understand the difficulty of being a goaltender. Like Peter pointed out, a young defenceman can be sheltered on a team, either by reducing his minutes or only putting them in situations that benefit him (i.e. the powerplay, not on the ice in one goal games or in the final minute of a close game, etc.).
A goaltender, regardless of how “easy” the competition is, is on an island. He will face shots, regardless of how good the team in front of him plays. He is often unfairly judged regardless of how the team in front of him plays because the position of goaltender is often viewed as an individual one. Look no further than the public denouncements of Brian Elliott, Ilya Bryzgalov, and Carey Price today.
if Lehner plays against an “easy team”* and lets in one or two weak goals, his psyche gets rocked and he begins to question himself. The media starts to jump all over him and before you know it, he’s ruined. Can you imagine if Lehner was to let in the goal that beat Anderson from center ice. He would get flayed!
*there is no such thing as “easier opponents” for the Sens this year. This team has average talent and needs to give it their all to win every game. When they don’t, they lose. This isn’t 2006 anymore where the team was so loaded in talent they could play Go Fish until the third and still win 8-2.
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 3, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I am sorry, I don’t buy the argument a defenceman playing every night can be more sheleted than a guy playing every 4-5 games. So I guess I don’t understand the difficulty of being a goaltender. ;)
There are certainly easy opponents for Ottawa, they are not the worst team in the league.
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Because you select situations
Situation-selection for defencemen can be sheltered against easier competition.
Situation-selection for goaltenders is game-by-game; you can try playing Lehner against weaker teams, but even weaker teams have good scorers.
Really, though, that doesn’t matter. What matters more is that the Senators needed a defenceman like Cowen, and didn’t need another goaltender. They wanted Lehner to play regularly, so they sent him to Binghamton.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 3, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
We’ll agree to disagree, but I think they need a backup goaltender right now. They can get that through trade, but I think Lehner is a good option that would also help him get some NHL experience.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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That's just a short-term solution to a long-term problem
AHL experience is valuable, too, and Lehner is learning right now that not everything comes easily. If he can outplay McKenna, then I’d be happy seeing him get some NHL games. If he can’t, I think he should stay down there and keep battling.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 3, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Weaker teams can still score
Sam Gagner just put up 8 points?!? against the Chicago Blackhawks last night. He is on Edmonton (a “weaker team”). Chicago is better than us.
What’s my point? Even “weaker teams” can expose a goaltender on any given night.
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 3, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, well 2nd line and 3rd lines can score too. So yeah, I don’t really see your point.
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How's every 4 to 5 games against weaker opponents working out for Auld?
It isn’t that easy. He’s better off in the AHL – He needs to show he wants it, instead of thinking he deserves it.
At this point, other than his win against the Leafs, there is really no reason to think that Lehner will even be better than Auld.
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How Auld is doing is irrelevant to how Lehner would do in my opinion. Lehner had one NHL game and he did well. Auld has not well in most of his NHL games this season. I really don’t see Lehner being any worse an option than Auld, as MacLean seems unwilling to use Auld at all.
I think it is okay to leave Lehner down there for now, but if Binghamton falls out of the race, I don’t see much of a positive in Lehner’s development in playing out the string in a minor league team.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
Lehner cannot outplay Mike McKenna
Mike McKenna cannot outplay Alex Auld.
Therefore Lehner cannot outplay Alex Auld.
I know it is flawed reasoning. But my point is, if Lehner cannot outplay a career minor league goaltender, why do you think Lehner can do better than a career backup goaltender in the NHL?
KK obviously believes the BSens have a better chance at winning with McKenna in net than Lehner at this point. So why does Lehner deserve a callup? Lehner has already played in NHL games, so it isn’t exposure. BM has already stated he believes players improve by playing lots. How is getting one game every two weeks fit with BM’s beliefs?
If it is about replacing Alex Auld, bring up McKenna and let Lehner start for the BSens.
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Everyone thinks they have enough.
Also, there's a scoreboard controversy in the league and for once, it has nothing to do with us! WHOOHOO!
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Hoooonk hoooonk honk honk hooooonk
That's the sound the train horn makes
Suck it, Toronto
Ya what's that all about. Is that actually true?
If so, how come it wasn’t noticed earlier, like while the game was on?
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Feb 2, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
The clock on the broadcast definitely stopped
You can see it in the replay on NHL.com. It just stops for a bit at 1.8 seconds left.
by B_T on Feb 2, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely something fishy happening.
Could you imagine if that happened to the Sens on this run? Like say we lost in Boston that way…just based on how we’re all collectively feeling about the integrity of the NHL, I believe fans would lose it and we’d march to the TO HQ with pitchforks and flaming torches in hand.
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 2, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
That's a fucking long march
All our torches would have burnt out before we even got to Barrhaven.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You accidentally get off the train at Fallowfield?
Because that’s the only excuse.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I used to live near Fallowfield station!
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Which is worse, living in
Barrhaven, Kanata or Orleans?
Mostly agreed
You can’t find a good shawarma. I’ve been looking for four years.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well as far as living goes, Toronto is better than any place in Ottawa. ;)
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I enjoyed living in Toronto for 12 years
but am very glad to be back in Ottawa.
by whatsinaname on Feb 2, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
You seem to like being wrong a lot. ; )
If you like overcrowding, pollution, traffic and the largeness of a metropolitan city with none of the fun stuff, then yes, Toronto is nicer than Ottawa.
I was born and raised in Toronto. I will never live in that city again by choice.
“Toronto, it’s like New York, but without the stuff.” – Steve Martin
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 3, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
And the “stuff” is shawarmas.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 3, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Riverside South
No public transport
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Everyone thinks they have enough.
YET!
Wait until the bridge is built.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 3, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Still can't take a bus to SBP this season...
to have a beer drinkin good time & watch the Sens play… sadly have to drive unless I want to get a hotel in Kanata for the night!
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bring the kid up now
Come on..Lehner has paid his dues in Bingo and proved once what BM always says that a player has to dominate at one level to be good at the next. Bingo’s team is going nowhere this year. Anderson has been a hero more often than a goat, but he plays well when he gets a lot of work. Any back up won’t get much work, so why not the kid because Auld has been awful?
I love Ottawa’s chances of making the play-offs, but we are only one key injury away from not making them as we have no depth. If Anderson goes down, who would you want in net?
So...
…bring Lehner up so he can ride the bench and watch Anderson play 26 of he next 29 games?
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 2, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think Lehner will be called up once Binghamton completely falls out of playoff race
Right now they are kind of hanging around the edge, but once the AHL games aren’t meaningful, I predict he will be called up to the NHL.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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I still don't see the point
How does he get better by watching games?
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Shocked at the poll results
Auld is still a better goalie than Lehner, anyway you slice it.
Slay the fatted calf
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by RogerTheShrubber on Feb 2, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Hard to state that unequivocally
For one thing, we haven’t seen Auld play in over a month. For another, he’s been terrible this year.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 3, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see how it could hurt his development to bring him up...
We’re basically exposing him to a losing culture down there right now. Bingo is horrible at the moment, and it doesn’t look like they’ll get any better in the next couple months.
I say we bring him up, play him in game #1 of some of the back-to-backs, and see where we go from there.
ALFIE! ALFIE! ALFIE!
Whether he likes it or not, he is a part of that TEAM. And just as much as winning together as a TEAM teaches you about life in the pros, so does losing.
My fear is his attitude of “I would learn more in the NHL.” Well Robin, you’re not in the AHL, so smarten up and make the best of a bad situation. I’ve watched a few of his games in Bingo this year and yes, the team in front of him isn’t that good, but he’s still let in a lot of soft goals and his rebound control is still where it was last year.
He’s not ready and he needs to be playing. If he can’t get the starter job in Binghamton, that just proves he’s not good enough to be a back-up in the NHL. If Mike McKenna was outplaying him by being fantastic, the Sens would call him up so that Lehner could start down there. Obviously, McKenna is doing just ok so that tells me more about Lehner’s play.
by The Dutch Treat on Feb 2, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno that Bingo's that bad.
Sure, they’re out right now, but they’ve won, what, four (at least three) in a row and are 5 points out of a play-off spot? I wouldn’t count them out yet.
The real problem, in my view, is that, should Bingo fight its way into a play-off spot (regardless of how well it does), Lehner won’t be the guy who backstops the team during such a comeback – should such a thing occur.
J-Spezz not at practice this morning.
J-Spezz pulled himself out of practice this morning as per Gord Wilson on Team 1200. They’re not srue if he’s injured and are watching for news of a call-up from Bingo… :(
by Quizzical Quorum on Feb 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST reply actions
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