Senators Ups and Downs: Week 14
by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 7:00 AM EST
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Ups and downs is a feature that looks at the individual performances of the Ottawa Senators over the past week.
The Ottawa Senators started the new year off right. Looking at the schedule, we all knew January was going to be a tough month with a first week that might have been the toughest stretch, but the Sens went on to put up a 3-0-1 record and earn seven of eight possible points against some tough competition in the New Jersey Devils (a 3-2 overtime win), the Tampa Bay Lightning (a 4-1 win), and the Philadelphia Flyers (a 3-2 overtime loss and a 6-4 win).
With that terrific week in the books, Ottawa's gone 7-1-2 in the last ten games, and as of Sunday night sit fifth in the Eastern Conference, well in playoff position--but with nine of the next ten games on the road. And it looks like many Senators won't even get the All-Star Break off, as they'll be playing in the game.
Biggest gains: Erik Karlsson
Karlsson had three two-point games in the week for six points in four games (1G, 5A), and was too much for the Flyers to handle in the two games against them. It's incredible to think that a 21-year-old defenceman is the lynch-pin of the Ottawa Senators offence, but Karlsson is. He has 41P in 43GP this season, tied for 14th in the NHL in overall scoring, tops among NHL defencemen, and a point off the team lead in scoring.
Biggest losses: Chris Phillips
Phillips' role on this team is declining as the Big Three--Karlsson, Filip Kuba, and Sergei Gonchar--really step up their game. Even Jared Cowen is regularly playing 5-10 minutes more than Phillips per game. The Sens' assistant captain looked slow and immotile against the Flyers in particular, especially the speedy Danny Briere. He was -3 in the games he played, and was on the ice for five of the nine goals against in those three games despite playing fairly minimal ice time.
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| Alex Auld |
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Did not see a minute of ice time in the week, and for good reason considering his statistics. Still, with a long road trip on the horizon, Auld will see some action, and will get an opportunity to get his groove back. |
| Craig Anderson |
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As Anderson went in the week, so went the Senators. He was solid in all four games, but was especially good against Tampa Bay. He's on a roll. |
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| Matt Carkner |
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Carkner was -3 in the week, and he isn't even the go-to guy on the penalty kill anymore. He had an uncontested victory in his only fight of the week against Adam Hall, but at this point it looks like Brian Lee will draw into the lineup in Carkner's place if he can't turn his game around. |
| Jared Cowen |
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Cowen was solid in the first two games, but had a hard time against the Flyers on the weekend. He's still getting over 22 minutes a night, and has supplanted Chris Phillips on the top penalty-killing unit. |
| Sergei Gonchar |
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Gonchar played just three of the four games in the week, and had two assists in them. He finished the week +1 overall, and is seeing a good amount of short-handed ice time |
| Erik Karlsson |
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See "Biggest gains." |
| Filip Kuba |
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Kuba was almost the biggest gainer, but Karlsson's offensive week was too much to ignore. Kuba has stepped up as the top all-situations defender on Ottawa, and led the team in ice time three of the four games. He had a goal and two assists in the four games, was +6 on the week, and has taken a complete 180-degree turn since last season. |
| Brian Lee |
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Lee played in the first two games of the week, was barely noticeable, and was an easy scratch in the final two. He may get into the lineup soon, though. |
| Chris Phillips |
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See "Biggest losses." |
| Forwards | ||
| Daniel Alfredsson |
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SIX POINTS. Three games, three goals, three assists, and one incredible 39-year-old hockey player. His second line led the way offensively in the week, and represents the first time Ottawa's had two legitimate scoring lines in... well... I'm not sure, but a long time. |
| Bobby Butler |
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Butler's keepin' it real on the fourth line, but at some point he's going to get his shot in the top six. He had a sick goal this week, nine shots, and is doing what he needs to do. |
| Erik Condra |
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Condra seems to be the defensive presence on the second line, making sure Alfredsson and Kyle Turris have the freedom, space, and time to do what they have to do to generate offence. Some of that's splashing back on Condra, too, and he had a goal and two assists in the week. |
| Kaspars Daugavins |
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Rooster's role is diminishing these days, and he's playing much less overall (he only played 4:46 against the Devils) and less on the penalty kill. It may be due more to others playing well than Daugavins playing poorly, but there's no denying that he's playing much less these days. |
| Nick Foligno |
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Since being bumped out of the top six, Foligno's ice time has fallen off, but he's still putting up points--he had three points (2G, 1A) in the week. He's a valuable part of the very dangerous two-way force that is the Senators' third line. |
| Colin Greening |
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Greening had his first goal in ten games in the second matchup with the Flyers, one of his two points in the week. He also fired 11 shots on goal in the week, and is the big physical presence on the team's top line--that is, when he's on it, and Paul MacLean regularly rotates him down the lineup mid-game. |
| Zenon Konopka |
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No points in the week for Konopka in the week, but he certainly wasn't a liability. He also had a convincing victory over Zac Rinaldo in the week's final game, which may have energized his teammates. |
| Milan Michalek |
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Michalek scored a point in each of the last two games in the week, so he seems to be coming around after struggling upon his return from a concussion. Still, his two points (1G, 1A) in the week would be a lot more concerning to people if not for the emergence of the second line. He's still shooting, though (13 shots in the week), so the goals and points will come. |
| Chris Neil |
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Neil started the week with a big win in a fight against Eric Boulton, was really quiet after that until notching two points in Ottawa's win over the Flyers. He's providing some steady supportive offence for the team. |
| Peter Regin |
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He's almost certainly out the rest of the season with his shoulder injury. |
| Zack Smith |
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Just one point for Z. Smith this week, his twelfth of the season. But even without the offence, he's still one of the team's top penalty killers, and he didn't even take a single penalty this week. |
| Jason Spezza |
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Four points in the week (2G, 2A) keep Spezza just under point-per-game pace. He's tied for tenth in league scoring with 42 points. |
| Kyle Turris |
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Turris scored his first goal as a Senator against the Lightning, and had two assists in the week, too. His gains with the team have been gradual but steady, and he's looked like a very good fit alongside Alfredsson on the second line. |
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Jesse Winchester |
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Still dealing with his concussion. |
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It's hard to believe sometimes that Spezza has maintained a point a game pace after all these years without a legitimate 2nd line centre.
How many guys can do that? He truly is elite, particularly now that his play seems to be more defensive. Praise Alfie and thank Turris for helping out. I’m shocked at how quickly he’s contributing.
by Pmoron on Jan 9, 2012 7:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
YAY Spezza
Yes, those behind the back passes resulting on odd man rushes that Jacques Martin used to pull his hair out over seem to be a thing of the past.
A player who can be trusted to put his energy into defensive play when it is required is so much more valuable than a one dimensional scorer… like Heatley.
Linemates
Michalek and Greening deserve a lot of credit too. Both of them are very conscious defensively, they both backcheck like men possessed.
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Jan 9, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Phillips' decline
Yes, Phillips’ decline is really noticeable… especially his decision making from behind the net. He just doesn’t move fast enough. The pace of the game has passed him by. Kuba has taken over as the shutdown guy.
It’s hard to believe that we gave him such a lengthy contract. When a veteran ceases to be an example of what we are trying to teach our prospects, they become expendable. That is an awful lot of money to be spending on a number five or six guy.
It will be hard to improve our goals against with this kind of slow decision making.
We can't get rid of him though
He has a no trade clause. So he is here for another two years getting $3 million on bottom pairing.
He started out decently this season, so I was hopeful. But he has really fallen of recently.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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by Adnan on Jan 9, 2012 8:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's really amazing
It’s bordering on Redden-esque, really. I expected, and I assume the management team expected, that he would bounce back significantly after last season, but so far the bounce-back has been quite moderate. We’re now paying $3.5M per season for a bottom-pairing defender who has been a liability at times even on that bottom pairing. That’s not good.
In the last CBA negotiations, the league made sure to include a one-time no-penalty buyout period. You’ve got to wonder if, should Phillips’ play not improve steadily over the second half of the season, the Senators might use that to get away from his contract. There aren’t any other bad contracts on the books for Ottawa.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
I had no idea
I used a thesaurus. But it’s not restricted to single-celled organisms, it means the ability to move spontaneously and actively, which seemed appropriate.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
so you’re not calling Phillips fertility into question then?
by west-sider on Jan 9, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems like a fitting word, no?
I could have just left it at ‘slow,’ but that’s not really substantive enough. The world I was looking for was pylon-esque, but making words up despite the plethora available is kind of lazy (not that that’s stopped me from doing so).
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
I've been watching closely, and I don't think it's that he's gotten slower
It’s not like he was fast to begin with. I think the problem is that he’s not a good fit in MacLean’s system. He doesn’t seem sure where he should be. So much of the team’s game now is up, up, up—but Phillips is a “stay at home” guy. He’s equally hindered by the fact that he doesn’t have a guy like Karlsson to help him move the puck up the ice, like Kuba does. Big Game Chris can still separate a guy from the puck; it’s what comes next where he’s really faltering.
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Rundblad
Phillips best games this year (IMHO) came when he was playing with Rundblad. It would probably be best to pair Phillips with Lee at this point. That would be an unremarkable third pairing, but they have played well together in the past and Lee can move the puck a bit.
I feel like he'd be a lot better if his first pass was to someone who could move the puck
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Yeah, that was my point. When Phillips played with a guy who could move the puck the combination was very effective. Now that the Sens have traded Rundblad, the best option left would appear to be Lee.
I’d say going the “cagey vet + young pup” route would give you the following optimal pairings:
Kuba – Karlsson
Gonchar – Cowen
Phillips – Lee (although Runblad would be better here)
I think it is speed..
but it’s his reactionary speed. His 2nd and 3rd step are what they’ve always been, essentially, but it’s his first step and ability to find the puck that’s bit him in the ass. Too many times I’ve seen him look left when the puck is right, or vice-versa. That extra second is what’s killing him/us.
The 'A' on Minnesotta Wild winger Dany Heatley's jersey does NOT stand for 'assistant'.
No-penalty buyout period???
What is this one time no-penalty buyout period. I never heard that before.
It doesn’t exist, but since teams often give out contracts they regret, maybe they will consider adding one in the new CBA.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
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It existed after the last lockout
There was a short period where teams could buy out players without a cap penalty; they still had to pay those players, but there was no long-term penalty against the cap.
Spector has a bit about it here, including some potential candidates for a buyout if there’s a period in the next CBA negotiations.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah I remember that. That was definitely needed to get teams from non-cap world to cap-world.
I think it would be great to have. Sure it would let some teams off the hook for being stupid, but it would also help players like Redden and others buried in minors get a job again.
I hope there is a limit though, like once every couple seasons or something, so you can’t just write off everything and start again. You should be punished to a degree for being stupid.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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It's a pretty big bargaining chip, though
The NHLPA won’t be very excited to give it away for free; they want players earning as much money as possible for as long as possible, and buyouts move against that.
Then again, if it’s a no-cap-penalty buyout, it might open up more money for more players.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
(as far as the really bad weekend goes)
Please don’t all pile on with “it’s not just this weekend” comments. He has been declining, but probably not quite so bad as he showed this weekend.
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 9, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
It’s not just this weekend.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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by Adnan on Jan 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you ready to be eliminated in round 4?
ARE YOU!
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
United/Bin Dippers FA Cup 4th round!
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
Will Howard Webb be playing for United again?
It can be a bit difficult to play 12-10, as we found out last year.
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Je suis d'accord avec ton premier paragraphe
Here’s where i differ from the rest of your opinion.
1st – it’s not our money.
2nd – Phillips will retire as a senator. This last contract was a gift.
3rd – He is in a under 35 contract, so if he desires to retire then he can do so without putting the team with a 3 million hit.
4th – I am happy that Phillips got this money, especially with all the defensemen that have told the team they wanted to leave. Off the top of my head: Corvo, Meszaros, Volchenkov, Commodore, Bedard. You have to reward loyalty, that helps the reputation of the teams and the city and helps to sign other players.
5th – Ottawa is one of the lowest salary teams. in a way we have to have his contract so the team can hit the salary floor.
Conclusion, for me a hockey team is not just wins and cents. If Phillips can do the job effectively as a 5th or 6th guy, then i do not have a problem with him making this money. I see it as a salary for past performance. He has been a team player since the start and a good reason (with Chara) we got to the Stanley cup playoff.
by Bikini Cowboy on Jan 9, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
The reality is that you always end up overpaying for players when they sign that 31-34 age bracket contract. At that stage in their career you’re usually paying for past performance, no matter who it is. Look at the contract Pujols just got for the downslope of his career.
I think we all hope that Phillips can remain a serviceable d-man for us and I really hope this situation doesn’t end ugly. Phillips is a lifer and doesn’t deserve to be bought out or demoted. I think the money is moot in this situation, as the Sens aren’t pinched for cash and Philly has been a loyal soldier for many years for us.
I would agree with you.
Adding in that Phillips can do better. He has the skills and will eventually get his mojo back. He’s had a bad few games, but he can be a 3/4 guy too on this team. He’s also a stable defensive presence when playing well, and we could use that.
I disagree with a few of your points
1. True, but that’s not the point, really. If Phillips’ cap hit prevents the Senators from signing a better player, then it’s affecting us in other ways.
2. I hope he retires a Senator, but this team shouldn’t be interested in charity. If Phillips doesn’t earn his money (or his roster spot), the team needn’t feel they have to give it to him as a gift.
3. If he retires, he doesn’t get paid; don’t expect him to retire.
4. Corvo and Berard wanted to leave, none of the others did. Meszaros was traded, Volchenkov and Commodore were allowed to walk.
5. Ottawa is well above the cap floor.
The problem with your conclusion is that recently, Phillips hasn’t been doing the job effectively as a 5-6 guy. I don’t really care about the money, but I care about winning, and Phillips hasn’t been helping the team win. Hopefully he can get back to the way he was playing earlier in the season.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
i think there is more to it than that
i recall the players survey of a couple years back where Ottawa was ranked a desirable franchise by the players. I still think that Phillips contact was overly generous for how he was playing at that time. BUT given that it’s signed and we really are keeping our cap space open, imo, for having to re-sign a lot of our young guns in the next few, I think it would be a bad move to find a way out with Phillips – despite his penchant for own-goals.
I disagree with a lot of the Phillips criticism
I do agree that there has been a decline. Not anywhere near so precipitous a decline as Redden, as you stated above, but certainly hard to watch after the heights of the Phillips-Volchenkov pairing being the best shutdown tandem in the league.
Also, I think it’s too easy to undervalue the teaching and leadership that Phillips brings to the team. We’ve got a very young team that is clearly being well-mentored between the coaches and a few wily vets. I think it’s wrong to be shouting the praises of the rookies, or of the team’s resiliency and attitude, and then overlooking the imput of your veteran assistant captain.
Also, I’m not sure we’re that worried about the cap for a while, so I’m happy Phillips got paid.
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 9, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
look at your first paragraph again
Redden was our offensive D-man so his drop-off was most obvious as his offensive contributions evaporated. Phillips role was established as a top-flight shut-down guy. That he’s dropped down to 5-6 minutes is a pretty-significant drop off. He’s still in the NHL (Redden can’t say that) so, sure it’s not as extreme as Redden’s, but he’s still sliding down a precipous.
I’m not joining the hit-squad for some of the same reasons you give but i’m not quite so happy that he “got paid”.
A precipitous decline is proverbially falling off a cliff.
Redden was money, and making quite a bit of it. And then suddenly he was crap (and still making quite a bit of money). It may have been the illicit things people say were going on, or it may have been the groin injuries (I think the latter had a lot to do with it). Either way, it was like he got hit on the head and forgot how to play hockey.
Phillips is getting old and has been on the decline for a few years. We knew this and signed him anyways. And not to a franchise-player-type salary like Redden. And my argument is that we did it because we need a few guys like Chris Phillips.
The money isn’t hurting the team in any way, so why not be pleased that a guy that has bled red, black, and gold for most of two decades gets a bit more in the nest egg?
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 9, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
If Redden weren't making so much, he'd likely still be back in the NHL
The biggest reason he isn’t is that the Rangers want to spend to the cap, but Redden isn’t worth anywhere near the $6.5M in cap space they’d have to give him. His stats in the AHL are half decent (about 0.4 PPG), and he’d probably be fine in a 5-6 role as a powerplay guy on a team with shallow defensive depth.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
En passant,
Thank you for all your hard work on the "garbage source coding" for that damn table.
So.. rebuttal, rebutal – ? not sure how to write this (i’m french).
1. If there is a better player. Right now the Sens have 13 millions in space. More then enough to sign 1 or 2 players, if they find anybody that they would want, not a given.
2. I would agree and i am sure that the Sens would like not better then for Phillips to make that contract look like a bargain. Look at it this way, Phillips is younger then Gonchar and Kuba and there is no complaints about their contracts.
P.s. Money is the gift, never the roster spot.
3. I agree, although he might want to, i was pointing out that we are not stuck with his contract like we would be with Gonchar or Alfie, if they retire.
4. Mezsaros wanted to leave. He would of had an offer sheet for Tampa, except they didn’t have all the picks needed to make it. So they made a trade instead, i think they were missing a 3rd round pick. Volchenkov was expecting more money then what management wanted to give him. He became a FA, waited, nobody offered what he wanted, signed a contract for about the same money as what the Sens offered (at least he tried). I see your point that they did not ask to leave, but they made situations such as such as it was the only alternative, so I put them in the wanted to leave category.
5. 3 million above – Phillips contract 3 million.
by Bikini Cowboy on Jan 9, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Look at it this way, Phillips is younger then Gonchar and Kuba and there is no complaints about their contracts.
That’s because Kuba and Gonchar are playing well.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
Oh, there were a lot of complaints about Gonchar/Kuba contracts last year weren’t they?
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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Exactly!
Unless…I am misunderstanding the whole thing. :p
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
I think they were saying Kuuuuuuba and Guuuuunchar.
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 9, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
It’s also because Kuba and Gonchar are gone after this season and next, respectively. Phillips is here for two more years after this one.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'll agree to disagree on the first three points
But I still take issue with the fourth. The idea that Meszaros would sign an offer sheet isn’t evidence that he wanted to leave, it’s evidence that he wanted more money than the Senators wanted to give him, and there was someone out there who would give it to him. The same is true of Volchenkov. I don’t think it’s fair to say either of them wanted to leave when all they really wanted was to maximize their career earnings.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
They didn't want to stay badly enough!
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Berard didn't even make it to Ottawa.
The 'A' on Minnesotta Wild winger Dany Heatley's jersey does NOT stand for 'assistant'.
Histoire est que...
He did a Lindros and he didn’t want to play in Ottawa. Let me check. Yup
by Bikini Cowboy on Jan 9, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Will be interesting to see if Karlsson ends up in the NHL Players of the Week
he’s been dominant this week and on the heels of his All-Star Game nod, it’s quite a statement to the league.
Uh... why?
I mean he played well and all, but there weren’t players who did better than him?
by TheGuineaPig on Jan 9, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I wish people could appreciate the amount of time I spent cleaning up the garbage source coding behind this damned table.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 8:34 AM EST reply actions
Peter Raaymakers - Sens hero!
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by Adnan on Jan 9, 2012 8:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tape sur le dos!
You have earned it. (even do i have no idea what "garbage source coding" means)
by Bikini Cowboy on Jan 9, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
I feel your pain
At this point, I’ve found it’s actually quicker to create a new table from scratch each week.
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Whoa
That’s nutty.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
This is why I have stopped putting in the stats table on the game day thread.
Changing colours from green and black should not be that hard.
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Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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Peter: Avoiding formatting issues
What works in any Microsoft product to avoid all the formatting issues is pasting into NotePad first and then pasting from Notepad. Would that work in this case?
Yeah, it works
It’s the ‘paste as plain text’ function, and it works nicely with text—but when you’re dealing with images and tables that require the HTML coding, it’s a little trickier.
Anyway, it’s something I can get around, I just need patience. Thanks for the advice, though, I appreciate it.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
How quickly you forget your days at blogspot. One has to assume that the SBN editor treats hard-returns better than that ol’ place.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 9, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's not just SBN
In fact, you’re right, our editor is freakin’ amazing. It’s a problem that’s probably inevitable with these types of content editors.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
I was just remembering how every time you’d try to make a table on blogspot, the editor would insert a hard return for every cell, causing the article to include about three feet of blank space that the reader would have to scroll through.
The only fix I ever came up with was to remove all returns and end up with a huMANGous big mess o’ code which, when empty, was just a littany of <td></td>’s.
Try lining up columns like that!
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 10, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
Hahahaha, thanks Marv
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
The HTML behind creating the table listing all the players and hyperlinking them
The site’s “editor” adds lines and lines of unnecessary crap each time you create the table, so if you copy a previous version, you’re piling crap on top of crap.
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Have you tried turning it off and on again?
by The Tif on Jan 9, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
That's typically how it starts out
SBN’s system adds in all the garbage when you publish the article, so there’s not much you can do.
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The problem comes with copying and pasting
Taking shortcuts in the WYSIWYG editor creates nightmares on the HTML side. But shortcuts are soooooo much easier….
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
I’m someone who’s coded forever, so I could code the whole structure by hand without the WYSIWYG editor. WYSIWYG is usually the problem in the equation, and copy and pasting into them is always a pain, no matter what platform you’re using.
by modsuperstar on Jan 9, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
You're absolutely right
But without WYSIWYG, you’d have far fewer people capable of posting content online. For all the flaws it has in developing code, it’s offered a lot in expanding the reach of the ’Net.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Yeah, how much is a first pairing dman who allows your superstar to be a superstar worth?
I’d say more than the 2nd or 3rd round pick they’d get.
Until we have another shutdown stud ready and developed, Kuba should stay.
... at least for this season
I’m not sure I want to get into discussing an extension for him just yet, considering how badly the previous extension turned out.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
One year
I don’t think he’ll get much more that one year from anyone, so a one year extension wouldn’t hurt… just until some fo these young guys in Bingo like Wiercoch and RoboCop and Gryba develop.
Year-by-year would be fine, I suppose
But at 35 years old, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else offered him two or three years at $3M+ per season.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
If I were Kuba, unless I were contemplating retirement after one year,
I would try to get a 2-3 year contract.
I wonder about Kuba.
He’ll want term – 2/3 years at least. We can’t give him that. We’ll likely get a d-man in the next draft, and Cowen/Karlsson/Gonchar/Phillips/Lee/Carkner are our guys.
We could keep Carkner around for toughness and as a 7th D-man, but I imagine we could call up BoroCop, Wiercioch, Gryba or Blood.
Cowen – Karlsson
Gonchar – Phillips
Lee – Carkner
2 or 3 yrs would be nuts
This is all true, except that we need depth and we need more shut-down guys… so it doesn’t make much sense trading away the best defensive dman we have.
Sure he wants term but what nutty GM would give an oft-injured old dman a 3-year term?
umm... Cowen, Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch
I think Cowen has shown that he could step up and play Kuba’s role if necessary. I think the organization needs to see what the other 3 can do at the NHL level.
Long term goal is to build a team consistently capable of competing for the Stanley Cup. The short term goal was to build a competitive, entertaining hockey club while developing the youth in the organization. We’re on target for that.
Don’t forget the value of a 2nd round pick. Former 2nd round picks of this organization include: Vermette, Fisher, Wiercioch, Lehner, Silfverberg & Prince.
+ We’ve already traded our 2nd round pick in the Turris deal and it would be nice to get one back.
IMO, Kuba is worth more in the short term than the pick, but the pick is more valuable to the stated long term goals of the club.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Good post Peter! And thanks for the midterm report card... just got to reading it!
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My pleasure!
These kind of stories are usually fun to write.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 9, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Shea Weber would look nice beside Karlsson
or even Son of Gretzky Killer Ryan Suter. There are a few nice options who could replace Kuba next year if it meant trading him and picking up a nice piece and a pick.
Imagine Weber and Karlsson? Seriously…..think about it.
The 'A' on Minnesotta Wild winger Dany Heatley's jersey does NOT stand for 'assistant'.
those are 2 different players.
The 'A' on Minnesotta Wild winger Dany Heatley's jersey does NOT stand for 'assistant'.
I would kill for Weber
But truthfully, I don’t think we can afford both him and Karlsson.
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Cowen will do fine
Responding to both Marc and MadCash, I think Webster would be overkill. He would cost too much to acquire and between him and Karlsson you have a ton of money tied up in your first defence pairing.
Cowen played really well with Karlsson earlier in the season. Give him the rest of this year to gain more experience another summer of physical training and I think you have excellent home-grown number one D combination.
if each knew they were playing with one another (or however that should be worded)
“Erik, you get to play with Shea…how’s about 10 years at 4.5?”
“Shea, this Karlsson kid is amazing…how’s about 10 years at 4.5?”
problem solved!
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It's intriguing enough I won't overrule it, but
not at $4.5 each obviously, but around $6.5- $7.0 each. Jared, unless he scores like crazy, will be a $4.0 type d’man. Kuba’s $3.7 after this year and Gonchar’s $5.5 after next year will be gone, so there’s cap space coming up. Not to mention Phillips’ $3.1 two seasons from now. I doubt such a concentration of blueline firepower will happen though….the stars will have to line up pretty good for that to occur.
I think we would have to trade Cowen (or Karlsson) in any trade to get Weber.
A more likely, but still awesome target, would be Suter.
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He just signed a one year deal, won't he be an UFA next year?
Don’t think we’ll trade for him in Feb. Like you said, the price will be very high. It’s intriguing, probably nothing more.
My understanding is that he's UFA next year
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Weber's an RFA
Suter is a UFA.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
It was a way for them to get a deal and not miss training camp. Since they couldn’t agree long term deal.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
And he’ll deserve every penny!
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
I knew Suter was a UFA
But I don’t think he’ll make it to market
Thanks for posting this.
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Really?
Having already signed Rinne, do you think they can afford both Weber and Suter? (from internal cap)
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
You think they will still try to sign Weber knowing he wants $7 and more?
because if they did, they would have done so earlier, no?
Maybe Weber wanted to see how Nashville does. If they re-sign Suter, who knows.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
If Weber wants to win, and win a lot,
it doesn’t matter who the Preds re-sign: they won’t be enough. On the other hand, I don’t what the hell he wants….wish he’ll tell me.
Nope, I don't
I think they plan to lose Weber. They made their best pitch for him last year and couldn’t get it done.
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I'd be surprised
Since he’s still an RFA they shouldn’t be in a hurry to move him. He’s going to command a massive return—more than a sane GM would be willing to give up at the deadline.
We know someone is going to get fired — say, Scott Howson — and their replacement is going to come in, want to make a big splash, and overpay for Weber, because he’s the guy you build a defense around.
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
They are going to get a crap load of a return for him. Probably won’t be at deadline, but will still get a lot as RFA in offseason.
Kessel got 1st rounders so…
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Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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