Silver Nuggets: Four Senators voted into All-Star game
by Adnan on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM EST
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In a stunning development that will surely make Darren cringe, the Ottawa Senators took four of the six guaranteed spots at their home all-star game. At the last update on 30 December, Phil Kessel was the overall vote leader and Milan Michalek was fifth among forwards, over 144,000 votes behind Kessel. Michalek ended up 42,000 votes ahead of Kessel, which is a 186,000 vote turn around in less than a week. Erik Karlsson was fittingly the overall vote leader. Sergei Gonchar was the lone Senator on the ballot to not be voted in, falling just behind Dion Phaneuf. Gonchar was 151,000 votes behind Phaneuf but could only close the gap to 11,000. Despite my best efforts, Robin Lehner did not make it. However, about that project mayhem...
The six guaranteed spots went to:
Forwards
1. Daniel Alfredsson 897,055
2. Jason Spezza 817,483
3. Milan Michalek 743,977
Defencemen
1. Erik Karlsson 939,591 (first overall)
2. Dion Phaneuf 614,933
Goaltender
1. Tim Thomas 420,504
I guess if there is one thing the people of Ottawa can do, it is voting!
General Sens News
- No changes in lines for today. 1) Greening-Spezza-Michalek, 2) Condra-Turris-Alfie, 3) Foligno-Smith-Butler, 4) Daugavins-Konopka-Neil. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
- Defence is the same again, Chris Phillips is still out with a concussion. 1) Kuba-Karlsson, 2) Cowen-Gonchar, 3) Lee-Carkner. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
- Everyone predicts a win tonight. Peter of the Raaymakers went with 3-2 Ottawa. (Senators Extra)
- The players were obviously very happy to be voted in. Remember this support, Erik, when signing an extension! (Senators Extra)
- Nick Foligno's six non-Sens all-star players would be Henrik Zetterberg, Steven Stamkos, Claude Giroux, Zdeno Chara, Nicklas Lidstrom and Tim Thomas. (Ottawa Sun)
- Corey Locke was the lone Binghamton player to make the AHL all-star team despite missing most of the season. (Press & Sun-Bulletin)
- Growing up in Vancouver and playing in Phoenix, Kyle Turris isn't used to the Ottawa winter. Still, he's warming up to Ottawa and has played decently so far, picking up four assists. It is frustrating for him to still be without a goal, but it will come. (Ottawa Citizen)
- Erik Karlsson is getting mentioned in the national media, with Paul MacLean, Daniel Alfredsson and Sergei Gonchar all very impressed by him. (TSN)
- I certainly agree though, whomever this "Eric Karlsson" guy is, he doesn't deserve an All-Star spot. (DeadSpin)
- If you are interesting in going to the Sens/Oilers game on 11 February or Sens/Penguins on 24 March, check out my post. (Adnan)
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Wasn't Craig Anderson on the ballot?
I think Ottawa carried the play versus NJ, Buf, and Calgary, but there was some good fortune in being able to come back. I say let’s not bother with comebacks, and play with a lead……prime time for All-Star MM9 to re-emerge, wouldn’t you say? Spezza, Karlsson, and Alfredsson can’t be in on every goal…..
"If you aren't diving, you aren't trying"-Jordin Tootoo
PekKarlsson: The genetic mutant solution to all of Nashville and Ottawa's problems. Shea and Alfie approve.
Ah
disappointing given that he was the hometown Goalie.
In hindsight, though, his play sorta justifies being left off. Hardly an omission.
"If you aren't diving, you aren't trying"-Jordin Tootoo
PekKarlsson: The genetic mutant solution to all of Nashville and Ottawa's problems. Shea and Alfie approve.
Pretty sure his GAA (might have been sv%, but pretty sure it wasn't both) was actually last in the league when the ballot was released
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't it fantastic how Reimer is voted in with a .900 SV% and 3.00 GAA. Andy: .899 SV% and 3.19 GAA.
Who was a write-in candidate? Howard with a .927 SV% and 1.99 GAA. At the time the voting started he was a .931 and 1.89.
Does the NHL just pull names out of a hat, or is it based on the previous years performance?
by Pmoron on Jan 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
(Reimer wasn't voted in)
It was close until the last week, but Thomas won.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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Reimer had a .912 SV% and 2.33 GAA when the ballot was released
Howard was definitely an omission on the ballot, with .934 and 1.67 when the ballot came out.
Andy was .887 and 3.12 at the time.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Good point about Reimer's numbers, although I wouldn't consider them good enough for ASG consideration.
by Pmoron on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd say it's enough to get on to the "long list" for consideration
Though not necessarily survive past the first round of cuts.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
HAH!
That Deadspin article did have one great line though:
This (Michalek beating Kessel) happened because Sens fans came out in force, or because the league rigged the voting, or maybe just because the Leafs cannot protect a lead.
I wonder how many votes Lehner had?
also, though I’m not a fan of the fan-balloting…the key word is ‘fan’. Shows you that for a small market like Ottawa, we have some serious supporters.
also, suck it Toronto.
"I couldn't score in a brothel...couldn't finish a sandwich"
- Joe Corvo
by MadCash on Jan 5, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think our fans emulated this years edition of the Sens, allowing Michalek to come from behind and snatch victory from Phil Kessel at the last second.
by modsuperstar on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The reaction of the Toronto MSM has made every bit of time I spent ballot stuffing worth it.
They are not handling this with the slightest bit of dignity. High point of my day, though, would be getting twitter-blocked by Damien Cox for telling him to stop whining cause hometown teams always vote in their guys. Pure gold.
Now, the next important question; who are the captains? I’m rooting Team Alfie vs Team Phaneuf. Nothing cooler than a Battle of Ontario All-Star Game in Ottawa.
Scholar, Gentleman, Shameless Sens Homer with a Heart of Gold.
by Johnny_Spectacular on Jan 5, 2012 2:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I want Alfie versus Chara
Boston/Ottawa adds the possibility of Kessel being picked last. ;)
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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What is beyond awesome?
Karlssonian?
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
all of it...mainly Spezza's muffled giggles though...
but mainly Spezza’s muffled giggles…
"I couldn't score in a brothel...couldn't finish a sandwich"
- Joe Corvo
I mean what is the word for something that is beyond awesome. ;)
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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I was watching with the sound off
And I automatically filled in with the Sand People noises from Star Wars.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope Anderson goes on an Elliott-esque tear and runs the table from here on in to the all-star break
If he becomes the Eastern Conference wins leader and his save percentage goes above the .900 threshold maybe he gets a nod too?
Well, I'm just saying that it can't just be a shutout or 3 - they have to be SPECTACULAR shut-outs
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
You're probably right
Mind you he’s one behind Fleury for the eastern conference wins lead. A January hot streak could do wonders for his chances.
There is zero possibility of Anderson playing I think. With so many Sens in, I don’t even think Anderson gets in with 8-0, 0.95 GAA and .982 save %
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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Thomas is in
Five of Lundqvist, Howard, Fleury, Rinne, Luongo, and Quick are the next most likely to make it. Anderson is right in the mix as far as wins go, so a nice run could boost his chances.
Don’t forget Elliott too, he’s a lock.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
Doubt it, personally
He’s not even the bonafide number one on his team. He and Halak have both started 20 each, and Halak has been starting more lately. Elliott hasn’t won since before Christmas.
I am willing to bet you if you want? ;)
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
I don't really care that much
Maybe Garrioch will take you up on that, though
Yeah, but the rest of his numbers aren't even close
There’s probably 8-10 games before the rest of the roster is announced. With 4 Sens already in, he’d have to pretty much play lights-out for all of them to stand a chance of getting in.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Even if he allows 1 goal/game on 30 shots for 8 games in a row, he’d have a .912 save % and 2.75 GAA
That’s about an average goaltender and certainly not enough for an all-star on a team with 4 already.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
Well, not to me
For individual games, it’s a shut-out. For a series of games, gotta be noticeably under 1. 0.8-ish maybe.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not really
I just feel, that as a term, “lights-out” has to go beyond a 1 GAA hot streak.
I’d say Tukka Rask was lights-out in December for example, even without consecutive games. He had a (weighted to TOI) GAA of 0.75 and a 0.975 SV%.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Also, if Andy racks up a few more assists then it's anybody's guess what happens next
After all, what other goalies are setting up the play like Andy?
He'd probably need at least a 0.5 GAA in that stretch to be considered
And that’d just be absolutely absurd if it actually happened.
Anyone know the NHL record for consecutive shut-outs?
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well, to answer my own question...
It’s 6 shut-outs in a row, set by Alec Connell in 1927-28, while playing for the Ottawa Senators.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
TO MSM
I decided to take a look at The Star, and the amount of butthurt is amazing:
And then Lupul has is panties in a bunch as well:
LOL
The Star couldn’t even get the stats right… Michalek has a 0.54 G/G, not 0.51.
But hey, if they want to go the stats comparison route, it’s Stamkos that should really be upset. He beats Kessel in most of the categories listed by the Star.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
And Weber beats Phaneuf in most of those stats
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
Not to mention that just yesterday they had an article up trying to convince fans to do some last minute ballot stuffing to get ol’ 35th in GAA and Save% Reimer voted in.
by spez_dispenser on Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Is Toronto angry with the ASG because
their fans were too lazy to vote for their players? Even though a Sens fan, I also voted for players on other teams. Ok, one, namely Tim Thomas. But I read other teams’ fans talking about Alfie deserving to be in the ASG. I don’t think you can assume that only Sens fans voted for Sens players.
Toronto's been acting ridiculous for years over ASGs and Winter Classics.
They’ve been applying for both and seem to have this notion that they deserve another one after just hosting it 12 years ago. Twits.
A Goal Horn Haiku
Hoooonk hoooonk honk honk hooooonk
That's the sound the train horn makes
Suck it, Toronto
In their defence
The MEDIA knows this sells papers. The Toronto market doesn’t want to hear about the great achievements of the Ottawa team, they want to hear about how they were wronged by the Evil Senators. Ergo, anything that sells papers/increases pageviews will be a hit. Same way Ottawa media reacted when MTL stuffed the ballot box years ago.
And, as much as loathe to admit it, Toronto is a very good choice for a heritage classic
I don’t see a Canadian team in the WC anytime soon.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Toronto vs Buffalo. Would be HUGE.
by The Tif on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
You guys won't believe this, but...
I just checked the TSN boards, and some person named “Mapleleafguy” disagrees with the results of the voting. Numerous fans of Toronto are implying – or even saying outright! – that it’s not necessarily the case that all four of the Senators voted into the starting ASG lineup are 4 of the best 5 skaters in the East.
And all this in the face of the objective, empirical proof of supremacy that is unmonitored online voting.
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 5, 2012 5:11 PM EST reply actions
Hang on, I'm clutching my pearls here.
A Goal Horn Haiku
Hoooonk hoooonk honk honk hooooonk
That's the sound the train horn makes
Suck it, Toronto
Were Sens fans the only people allowed to vote for the ASG starting five lineup?
If not, and the other teams’ fans were not voting, were we expected to vote for their players? Was I expected to vote for Kessel because Leafs’ millions of fans across the country didn’t want to vote because they thought the ASG was not important? And now they are complaining?
Yes, they're complaining. If their ballot-box stuffing worked and humiliated us, that's good
However, people couldn’t sustain the needed lulz and thus they failed and we have four ‘starters’. Guess what: That’s bad.
But it comes with a fat-free yogurt! That’s good.
A Goal Horn Haiku
Hoooonk hoooonk honk honk hooooonk
That's the sound the train horn makes
Suck it, Toronto
It's the host city effect
You’ve got more casual fans in Ottawa voting that wouldn’t normally do so, and you’ve got outright hockey fans in other cities throwing in token home town guys.
Next year, as long as it’s not a team I hate, I’ll probably do the same thing – vote for one or two of the host team’s players because they’re the host team.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Here is what Brian Burke said about it
Ottawa Senators put on a big push for voting and good for them. I would expect our fans to do the same thing if we host the game some day. So good for them.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
I'm not the biggest fan of leafs nation
But I do like Brian Burke.
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 5, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not the biggest fan of Brian Burke
But he does sometimes say sensible things.
by B_T on Jan 5, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares about the stupid Make Believes
and their dumb fans and dumber media. We should simply be serene in our supremacy as the main All Star guys!
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