Senators lose third straight after falling 3-2 to Coyotes
by DarrenM on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 AM EST
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PrintThe Ottawa Senators have been in the midst of a mild slump lately, losing their last two games and 3 of their last 5. It would have been a nice boost for the team to get a win before the All-Star Break, but another game of uninspired hockey saw the Senators walk out with a 3-2 loss to the Phoenix Coyotes.
The Senators actually outshot their opponents this game -- something they have not been doing lately -- but their game seemed to lack intensity and the chances they generated never really seemed that dangerous. They allowed the Phoenix Coyotes to take a 2-0 lead on goals from Gilbert Brule and Shane Doan before Daniel Alfredsson finally got the Senators on the board 37 minutes into the game. Only down 2-1 going into the third, it seemed like the late-surging Senators might actually be able to pull this one out.
Unfortunately, the Senators couldn't seem to find the win tonight. The Coyotes scored 1:30 into the period to give themselves a 3-1 lead, and though Chris Neil netted his ninth of the season just 14 seconds later, the Senators never could bring the game back to a tie. It appeared they had tied it up late in the third when Daniel Alfredsson put the puck in the back of the net off a rebound, but the goal was disallowed as referee Tim Peel felt Nick Foligno had interfered with goalie Mike Smith. The Senators went on the penalty kill, and never managed to find that tying marker, falling 3-2 to the 'Yotes. The Sens will have plenty to think about over the All-Star Break, and hopefully they come back with fresh legs and the hustle that's been missing the past few games.
Sens Zeroes: Erik Karlsson and Filip Kuba
The team's top pairing had a rough night, as Karlsson and Kuba were -2 and -3 respectively. Both were held off the scoresheet, made dumb plays, and were easily muscled off the puck tonight.
Sens Hero: Chris Phillips
Phillips has had a rough go as of late (see: penalty shot, yesterday), so it was nice to see him have a solid +2 on a night where the Senators only scored 2 (and gave up three at even strength). He even had his 13th assist of the year on the Daniel Alfredsson goal, giving him 13 more assists than he has goals.
Sens Zero: Bobby Butler
Butler was given his opportunity to shine tonight, and simply didn't do anything with it. He spent time on the top line but only had two shots on net and failed to bury any of his chances. He also finished -2 on the night, and stood idly by while the man he should have been covering, Radim Vrbata, potted home the game winner in the third period.
Sens Hero: Daniel Alfredsson
Alfie led the Senators with 7 shots on the night, and was simply the most dangerous player for the Sens. He was great in his own zone (one of the rare Sens on the positive side of +/-), and he had one goal that counted and another one that didn't.
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Great recap
It’s almost like you watched the whole game!
Glad the break is here. We look a little winded and 65 really needs to refocus.
The 'A' on Minnesotta Wild winger Dany Heatley's jersey does NOT stand for 'assistant'.
On a side note.
Not too long ago Konopka made a comment about Anderson being a Vezina candidate type goalie. Alot of readers of this comment likely snuffed it off as lunacy…look what Anderson has done since.
He is now taking up the cause for Cowen"Look at the way he plays, and his ice time … this kid is one of the best prospects in the whole league, and he’s not going to be part of the all-star weekend?" Konopka said of Cowen. “It’s not right. I’m outraged. There should have been some lobbying done to get him in.”
Again proving what a team guy this is, something which I had foretold a couple of months ago.
I like konopka
And I agree with you. A real team player.
by spatial.taxes on Jan 25, 2012 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
Good point
Konopka, in addition to faceoffs and some toughness,
does bring the good locker room personality/dealing with media element that I am sure all of his teammates value.
Not much more you can ask of a 4th liner. I thought the signing at the time was questionable since Z. Smith and Winchester both looked like 4th line centers. Turns out, despite Smith’s recent slump, Smith looks to be more like a young 2003 Mike Fisher/2007Antoine Vermette/2010 Chris Kellyesque as a solid 3rd line pivot. And Winchester is hurt.
Really, really disappointed in Bobby Butler. Maybe he needs to be sent down, pot some goals to build his confidence, increase his willingness to shoot + get to areas where he can be dangerous with a quick shot, etc.
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You won't find a single comment questioning Konopka's locker room presence on this site
So not only are you defending him for no reason, your self-important gloating is totally unnecessary.
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Aside: Konopka does the most HILARIOUS "interviews"
I want to see him do one at the ASG. Konopka interviewing Lupul would be hilarious since Lupul says hilarious stuff.
The guy is funny as hell
It actually bothers me that Sens TV doesn’t do more with him.
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I was going to say...
I don’t think any of us have every criticized Konopka as a locker room presence. I love when he gets the opportunity to speak for the media, and hope that his play can match the tempo that it had last night for the rest of the season. Did anyone see that nice display of puck handling last night where he pulled the puck between his legs?
If he can contribute even along the same lines as Neil I think most of us would be pleasantly surprised. But when he serves his team more for fights than making smart decisions, that’s when most of us have an issue with him.
And, in fact, I don't think he's been the fight-first player that he was in the beginning of the season for a while now
My feeling is that now that he’s not playing like he has to justify his place on the team, he’s actually a pretty valuable fourth-liner.
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I don’t think he’s a valuable fourth liner at all. He gets outscored (slightly) and outshot (badly) against other 4th lines.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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You got stats to prove that?
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
He’s -3 and he has the 2nd lowest relative corsi among Ottawa’s forwards of -10.4 Daugavins is the worst at -19.5. Also plays against 2nd easiest competition among players with 10+ games (after Da Costa).
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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I meant more direct competition numbers against other fourth lines
I don’t think Corsi differentiates, does it? For instance, he had a shift last night with Giggles and Butler. I think they managed one shot, but I’m positive they weren’t playing against a fourth line.
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Well his opposition quality is pretty low, so he is generally always against the 4th line. But no, I don’t have exact instances of 4th line on 4th line goals.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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I'd be interested to see his pure 4th vs. 4th numbers
I wonder how much is skewed by the situations he’s in as a pinch-faceoff man.
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 25, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
He’s got 47.1% defensive zone start and 52.9% offensive zone start (ignoring neutral zone starts), which definitely hurts him a bit.
But I still no reason to think he’s valuable. The best I can say is he might not as big a liability as the numbers suggests.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
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Oops I have that backwards
52.9% defensive, 47.1% offensive.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
And I'd consider "not a liability" to be a good fourth line player
I don’t know how much more you can ask of a guy (not necessarily Konopka) who only plays about nine minutes in a game.
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Not be a liability and win the odd games, but
I know I can’t have the cake and eat it too (damn you Antoinette) , so I’ll settle for the former.
by whatsinaname on Jan 25, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t say not a liability though. I said not as big a liability as the numbers might suggest.
I think he is a liability.
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
Erik Karlsson is better than your favourite player.
Twitter: @sens_adnan
I wonder how much is skewed by the situations he’s in as a pinch-faceoff man.
This…considering the fact that he plays alot of his shifts against many non 4th lines due to defensive face off abilities these stats become quite moot and are being overestimated, if you could supply stats vs strictly other 4th lines I would almost consider them.
As for Corsi those who have read my posts know what I think of it and one players opinion and knowledge of the term.
Oh cut him some slack, Mark.
He’s been really good lately, a far cry from how things started out.
by Pmoron on Jan 25, 2012 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Um, you can email me if you want to talk about it
And I don’t mean that in a threatening “I can ban you, so don’t fuck with me” kind of way; just that I don’t think discussions of whether certain members should be treated differently on here should be publicly held in front of them. That’d be rude, in my opinion.
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 25, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think Gonchar was a zero on the night.
Just looked like the break couldn’t have come sooner for him. He looked disinterested and lost races to the puck in our end.
Another zero, in my opinion, was giveaways in our end… Especially in the first period. It was frustrating to watch. It wasn’t just Gonchar but I felt like he could have done better.
im glad the sens are gonna be back in EST
What a horrible road trip
by AAZZ on Jan 25, 2012 6:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Fair recap
This site sooo much better than the Sun: there recaps always some little bias or agenda.
Their writeup focuses on the waved off goal; the call was understandable, probably legit (just saw it for the first time on replay), and in a net sense, we got the more important call for us (vs. the Leafs, intraconference) recently, which easily cancels last night out.
Butler as a zero: not watching the game, only the highlight package, and clearly he didn’t do anything of note. Story of the kids year.
Regroup, and Boston up next…….hopefully no more early game deficits, and we right the ship.
Remember after the Elliott 11 game win streak, we had plenty of time to have a massive losing streak and another 5-6 game win streak, in an Olympic year no less…….tons of time left. That said, that little cushion b/w the top 5 and the next 5 just evaporated, if you look at games in hand. Time to rebound!
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I told Peter this at the S7S game in December
I come here for my Sens news. And then Chirp, and then if they link to them on the nuggets, the rest of the news.
I don’t mind TSN’s reporting, and they sometimes have interesting pieces (Kerry Fraser’s stuff has been great lately), but they also “make up” holidays – draft day, trade deadline day etc and so they’re very fluffy a lot of the time. Plus, the Leafs/Crosby bias.
I disagree with the legitimacy of that call
Now, you put yourself in a position where a bad call costs you the game…you can’t really say it cost you the game.
But it was a bad call.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Maclean did a great job making that point
i.e. Sens got screwed by a blown call, but it shouldn’t have come down to just that call.
I’m still cranky about it and especially Tim Peel, since he can be traced to some very bad call against us this year (not necessarily saying bias, just incompetence) but I LOVE that Maclean can acknowledge the ref’s role in the loss on one hand without taking responsibility away from the players.
Scholar, Gentleman, Shameless Sens Homer with a Heart of Gold.
by Johnny_Spectacular on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
The 2 minutes was BS
But it seemed like a pretty clear no-goal to me, unfortunately.
Agree to disagree?
I was actually surprised to see divergent opinions on here. It says something for sure, but i thought it was an obvious blown call.
For me, in almost every case where a guy goes into the crease with the puck and a defender on his back, it’s not goalie interference. Particularly when the goalie pushes out into him. My face was more shocked and angry than Alfie’s.
I do see how by the letter of the law it’s interference, but by the way things are usually called…?
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by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 25, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure how Foligno was supposed to avoid Smith. He got forced into the net by the Coyotes Defenseman. Bad call indeed.
Drew Brees- the REAL MVP.
Yeah, not to create a back-and-forth on this
But, to me, Foligno outside of crease + Smith initiating contact = goaltender interference. But its notoriously inconsistent in how its called game to game anyway. Remember Neil getting called for GI for screening Price a couple years back?
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by Johnny_Spectacular on Jan 25, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, should have read *= good goal*
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by Johnny_Spectacular on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure if I agree that the Senators played a poor game tonight. They got pucks through to the net, were throwing the body, and putting traffic in front of Smith. Usually those are the things you have to do to win, and it did result in outshooting Phoenix and a ton of chances. Unfortunately, either the terrible ice caused a hopping puck or guys to fall all over the place, or Mike Smith would come up with a big save, or Tim Peel would be Tim Peel, so they came up short. But the last two games have seen Ottawa come out hard in the first rather than rely on Anderson to bail them out. That’s really positive.
What a terrific photo caption
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Alfie's expression is priceless
He also looks like a giant beside Peel.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
The little guy hasn't had his va va voom on this road trip at all
What’s up with that?
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by Adnan on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Ever since he took that game off for an upper body injury really.
I hope he’s not playing through an injury.
The longer he plays, the more film there is on his tendencies
He’s not catching anyone by surprise anymore, and there’s film on how to force him into mistakes.
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His huge arms must be slowing him down ;)
by Pmoron on Jan 25, 2012 9:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sunshine drains his powers.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
We should hire Thunderbug.
He’s a free agent, and we could use a spark plug.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions
Pull the Mascot off the waiver wire, should we?
A Goal Horn Haiku
Hoooonk hoooonk honk honk hooooonk
That's the sound the train horn makes
Suck it, Toronto
It's good to have competition at every position
And Spartacat is starting to look too comfortable.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 25, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's not used to being a North American mascot - he's too Greek.
We should Spartacat down to the 67s to train with this guy:
That thing is terrifying.
Particularly the shoes.
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by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
PETER IS THIS YOU ON KERRY FRASERS BLOG
Kerry,
The play I’m concerned with in this email brings us to a very prominent question among fans these days, one which I hope you’ll take the time to address. Why doesn’t the league consider some sort of video-replay challenge?! In the Ottawa vs. L.A. game Monday night a penalty shot was awarded to the Kings after Chris Phillips used his wrist to knock the puck under his goaltender while in the crease. I don’t believe you will question my assertion that this is a blown call (seeing as, if you’ll indulge my bias, the refs had been working hard all game to exact revenge against the trash-talking MacLean). What I want to know is how you feel about video review. This was essentially a free and unwarranted goal spoon fed to the Kings. It could have been avoided with a one minute review!
Thanks Kerry,
Peter (Ottawa)
Nope, that's not me
When I’m writing serious e-mails, I rarely use multiple punctuation marks (?!).
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 25, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
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