Senators' Prospect Roundup: January 10, 2012
I spent a little while yesterday afternoon perusing the worldwide web searching for a "Golden Goal" type commentary of Mika Zibanejad's overtime winner courtesy of a Swedish announcer (Peter had yet to post it). I found it, but also succeeded in tracking down this hilarious and bizarre YouTube clip. The quality is terrible and, from the limited amount I know about making videos, it was made to be intentionally choppy, which I really don't get. The maker of the video also fell into the incomprehensible trap of drowning out the actual highlight with some "techno beats". There are better versions out there, including the one Peter posted yesterday, but this one was too much to handle, so I had to pass it off to all of you.
Mika was not a stand out in every fixture- his terrific rate of six shots-per-game was boosted by one game with twelve. Still, he played very good hockey when it counted, with three of his four goals in the tournament coming on the powerplay, and, you know, that goal in overtime against the Russians.
Although he could learn a thing or too from his fellow Senators' prospect on shooting the puck, Jakub Culek had a strong tournament for the Czechs. With four points in five games, Culek offered the kind of offensive play the Senators are surely looking for, and the Rimouski forward chipped in a fair amount of minutes on the penalty kill. For a prospect who offered some fairly underwhelming numbers (granted, we're used to astronomical stuff) in the Q last season, Culek played well in an important role for the Czechs.
Ottawa had another gold medalist- Fredrik Claesson was pointless through six games for the Swedes, but for a defensive defenseman, who cares? For somebody in his place, the statline doesn't tell much of the story (I couldn't find blocked shots or average time on ice numbers). What I saw in Claesson impressed me. I thought he played with confidence and was a steadying presence on the Swedish blueline.
Binghamton Senators:
Winning two of three over the past week, BInghamton's play continues to show signs of gradual improvement. Turning things around, a little bit, piece-by-piece. If you want to look down the road and ask yourself where the team is going, it's probably nowhere this season. But that's not the worst thing- a good, positive environment will help our young players, and make them ready to be a voice in the room when there is a further injection of new blood next year. Consider, for example, Andre Petersson. The Swedish forward signed an entry-level contract near the end of last season with Ottawa. He also scored this goal. His transition to the North American game was lacking a bit to start the year. Now, his speed, nifty hands, and absolute rocket of a shot are important to any success Binghamton has this season, despite his diminutive size. It has also earned him top-line minutes.
Seeing a team in the system win games is positive, and the first half of the season in Binghamton has been difficult to watch. Big injuries have beset the team and they forced some younger guys to step up. Winning is good, but a little adversity can be, too. They lost some lots of games to start the year, but are righting the ship. That's better than running the table, no?
Binghamton Senators 4, Adirondack Phantoms 3
The line of Petersson, Locke and Klinkhammer has been rolling of late, and really exploded in this game. Also, it was a game against Adirondack, who Binghamton has beaten every time they've met this season. If you get into any back-and-forth situations with unrelenting Flyers fans, let them know that 1. Danny Briere is pretty irritating. 2. Their farm team has NOTHING on ours. That'll get them good. Mike McKenna looked good in goal, and he really, really had to- Binghamton was outshot by the Phantoms excessively. A late flurry saw the puck come back to Tim Conboy who unleashed a seeing-eye blast that won this one late in the day for Binghamton. Filip Kuba, anyone?
Binghamton Senators 3, Connecticut Whale 1
McKenna started in his second of three games in a row (because Robin Lehner is... competitive). Another multi-point night for Corey Locke, along with more tallies for Petersson and Pat Cannone saw the B-Sens handle the Connecticut Whale and spoil Sean Avery's inauspicious AHL welcome back party. Speaking of Avery, he had two penalties, and Binghamton scored on one of them.
Rochester Americans 3, Binghamton Senators 2
It was the same cast of characters for Binghamton, as Klinkhammer, Locke and Petersson all chipped in on the scoresheet, with Eric Gryba adding an assist from the back end. Still, the B-Sens were only able to manage 2 goals on their 44 shots on the night, and didn't convert a terrific opportunity in the second period when one of the Americans was sent off with a double minor. Joy Lindsay wrote a good post-game article discussing the frustration of shooting 44 and not winning the game.
Prospect Miscellanea:
- Pretty busy week on the trade front for Senators prospects. First, Jean-Gabriel Pageau was traded to Chicoutimi for a bevy of picks. Austin Watson was then traded from the Peterborough Petes. Yes, I'm fully aware Watson is not a Sens' prospect (Nashville, as it happens), but he was a top player on the Petes with Matthew Puempel. Puempel, already captain and the Petes' go-to-guy, will be relied upon for some serious leadership hereon out, in the locker room and putting up points. Then, as I was wrapping up this post, Bruce Garrioch announced over twitter that Jordan Fransoo has been traded from the Brandon Wheat Kings to Victoria for Kevin Sundher, a third-round selection of the Buffalo Sabres.
- Speaking of Matt Puempel, the scoring prospect returned from an eight-game suspension for a shot to the head, only to get one himself. Puempel was taken to hospital for "observation" of an apparent concussion. Puempel has been over a point per game when in the lineup. Problem is, he hasn't spent too much time in it.
- Nikita Filatov has yet to put up points.
- Corey Pronman had an interesting tweet yesterday pointing out that Zibanejad was averaging 12:54 of ice time with Ottawa, compared to the 15:21 he's getting in Sweden. Considering that the season is shorter than the NHL's, and that he already had missed about a third of it, I can imagine some people fretting he should have stayed with Ottawa. If you do, remember that awesome techno video I offered up at the top, but also that Zibanejad may not have played as many minutes had he stuck with the Senators. The nine games he played in Ottawa were his tryout- especially the last handful of games. Had he stayed, his top-line status may have suffered slightly. We have not seen Paul MacLean cut players slack when they aren't producing.
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Stone only matters when he's playing for Canada
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I know you don't mean that
Especially when he puts in 10 PPG next season crashing the crease for the Sens!
You mean the B-Sens
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 10, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
No, you mean the B-Sens
I am very much an optimist!
But truthfully I imagine he could use time in the A to adjust to the speed and then get ready to take the next step
!@#$ing Filatov
Score a point already!
I love soft players (especially Europeans) that play on the perimeter. Enigmas are awesome. Grit and heart-and-soul are red flags.
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Meh
I don’t expect him to do much over there either…I hope he turns it around but from the limited bit I saw him play here I don’t think he will be an NHLer anytime soon
He was explosive in the AHL.
Best player on the ice a lot of the time. And he has, in the past, put up some good points playing in the KHL.
I think he has the talent
I just didn’t see enough at the NHL level to make me think he was going to flip a switch and become an NHL player – especially since he pretty much has to be a top 6 forward.
He could potentially become a 3rd line guy I guess because he is sound on the D side of the puck but I don’t see him accepting that role either. I wish him well, would love it if he could prove he belongs and put up points.
Rate of development post-draft
I have to feel that alot of the GMBM era picks, at least the key picks, would be picked higher in hindsight, do-over drafts. Testament to his drafting ability.
2008, Karlsson would be a top-5-10 pick easy, and Zack Smith (though he was an overager, and further ahead than alot of comparables in development today, as well as back then) may be a late first, second round pick. Jury is still out Borocop, Wiercioch, Petersson and Grant, but they are all still considered potential NHLers and have impressed at times.
2009 and 2010, Cowen is solid, justifying his pick, although not necessarily improving his stock. Lehner, Silfverberg, Stone and Hoffman have all improved their stock. The rest, I don’t know that they have distinguished themselves. And 2010 was a lean year, but they did transform that first round pick into Kyle Turris, who is helping the team today and hopefully for the next decade.
Folks are justifiably critical about Murray’s ability to pick coaches and make trades (though hopefully Paulrus and Turris continue to look good), but you can’t deny his scouting/development of prospects have been topnotch.
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Development is A-OK
Yes, BM and staff have done a very positive rebuild in a short period of time.
We are not one of the better teams yet, and we have come a very long way in short order.
We still need to develop a defence that can defend as well as produce offence, as we cannot continue to give up so many goals and expect to win anything. We also need two more top notch goaltending prospects and a reliable backup.
With Stone, Z’jad and Silfverberg being added to the offence, it looks like we will continue to be able to score goals.
We will need to trade for or build a defensive D stud besides Cowen to replace Phillips and Kuba and another good goalie.
Phillips
will be dead weight for another two years. Nice guy, great career, but winding down….
Totally agree we need some one NHL ready next year. Boroweicki, Weircioch, Gryba may not be.
I fear that Kuba will be resigned for 2-3 years. I hope BM learned his lesson (Kuba, Gonchar, and Phillips all had down years after signing in 2009, 2010, 2011) about signing guys at the tail end of their careers……but media is saying that he’s helping Karlsson out, making the kid look good….I though Karlsson looked good with Cowen, too. And Karlsson struggled when Kuba was gone, but the whole team struggled, so there’s that…..
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I wouldn't mind a 2 year deal for Kuba
He has been good for the Sens his entire time here except when coming off two major injuries…his point production has dropped but that will pick up now that it seems he is on the #1 PP and Gonchar is on the 2nd with Cowen.
Of course it depends on price…tricky part is that we can’t trade him at the deadline if we are still in the play-off hunt so losing him for nothing in the summer would be a bummer. If he keeps up his play though hard to say what he could get us…might be tempting to let him go to another team (in the West) if we can get a 1st for him.
I don't know if he's been good the entire time
He wasn’t that good in 2009-2010, pre injury that ended his season. I am not sold on him being great in 2008-2009; some fans here and on Senschirp were excited to see who we could have gotten for him at the trade deadline, and was sorta sad to see him resigned, especially knowing Volchenkov’s contract was coming up.
http://www.silversevensens.com/2009/3/4/780332/sens-extend-kuba-3-years-3
With Kuba’s age, much like Phillips, jason smith, Gonchar, and Kuba himself before him, you are probably paying for past performance.
Te be fair to Kuba, I don’t want him traded at the deadline; he is key to our chances this year, so long as we are in the thick of things. Losing on a 2nd for a playoff spot, that is a fair trade.
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Also to be fair to him, he was on pace for 41 points in 2009-10
Which would have been better than his previous season.
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He also missed time
the year before. If you are going to give him credit for games missed one year ‘and projections’, you should probably do it for both years.
Either way, I distinctly remember there was some slight disappointment we didn’t sell high in March 2009. He was alright at times, but alot of soft play….kind of like what alot of people here remember about Meszaros, apparently.
He’s playing well now, and that’s the important thing. If we didn’t have Phillips, I wouldn’t mind keeping Kuba for another year or two.
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Whether or not he missed time in 2008-09 is irrelevant to his performance in 2009-10
He would have projected to 46 points that year. You claim he “wasn’t that good” the following year, except that he was clearly having a statistically similar year.
But yes, your memory is correct. I was definitely disappointed he was re-signed instead of traded. But in hindsight I came to tolerate the decision, as Murray had no way of predicting the free agent market. There weren’t many better options on the table, unless he wanted to overpay for Bouwmeester.
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 11, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
statistically similar
and if you read above, i said i wasn’t sold on him having a good year prior.
Count me in as one of the group that wanted to sell high at the deadline.
I understand Murray wanting to fill out his roster (lots of question marks at the time), but it was disappointing to go out and get Gonchar and Jason Smith,
or resign Kuba and Phillips, for premium market value (ie. overpayment for services rendered), when we let a younger guy (and more defensive D) in Volchenkov go, and got questionable return for another younger guy (Mezsaros) who is only now in his mid-20s over dollars (on the GDT a poster mentioned speaking to Dean Brown; the Mez decision was about money. In hindsight, he easily became a 4M D).
Maybe GMBM can continue to do his stellar job with drafting and development, and leave the decision making regarding mid-30 year old D to an assistant? Or try his best to find a UFA on the right side of 30.
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I think one week of poor play on Phillips’ part is insufficient evidence to predict that he will be ‘dead weight’ for the rest of his contract.
One week?
Maybe some will disagree, but I think he has been disappointing for the better parts of the last year and a half. The resigning was a gift for being a loyal Senator, and there is a value for BM to treat loyal vets well. Looks good on the franchise, in one respect.
On the other hand, the contract to Kuba in 2009 likely played a role in not renewing Volchenkov in 2010, and the contracts to Kovalev and Gonchar were deservedly mocked.
I would rather Chris Phillips pull a Jason Smith, and retire with the dignity he deserves, AND do the team a favor,
than end up a healthy scratch, or playing 6th D minutes, or gawdforbid, end up like Redden (one of the greatest Sens of all time, but people only remember the negativity and the horridness of the last two years, and the NYR debacle).
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I don't think last year is necessarily demonstrative
Phillips had a bad year, but so did most everyone else, including Kuba and Gonchar.
This season Phillips has been more like his steady self. We’re not kidding ourselves that he’s going to recapture his primo shut-down days, of course. But he’s still third among Sens defensemen for shorthanded TOI/G (and second for overall shorthanded TOI), and it’s Lee and Carkner being scratched for one another for 6th d-man this year, not Phillips.
I stand by ‘one week’, because it’s only been the last week that Phillips’s play has been criticised, at least in a more than cursory fashion.
Thank you contract
for his service as a loyal Senator.
I realize alot of fans write off last year as ‘everyone had a bad year’, or ‘it was all Clouston’s system/Brian Elliott’, but Phillips didn’t look good on a game by game basis. Not sure if the hero/zero thing is all that accurate, but I would bet he was a zero on alot of nights; he was noticably, painfully, slow.
There are games where Brian Lee (your textbook 6th/tweener D) looks servicable, and we are happy. I think things are progressing such that some fans are happy with a servicable night from Phillips.
The SH time on ice is not surprising. Well aware he’s out there in the rotation but not a first pair option. And being second string on a middling PK, isn’t necc a feather in the guy’s cap.
Anyway, last night we won, and he looked servicable. The Pens had some possession time on Phillips shifts, no more than Lee, Carkner, Kuba, Gonchar, wonder what the Corsi was. It is telling that he only got 18 minutes, on a night when Carkner and Lee both got 15/16. Phillips isn’t an option to soak up minutes in a close game or a 3-4 goal game for Paulrus, and sadly, it appears that there is merit in not playing Phillips.
I would never boo the guy on opening night or anything (I wouldn’t boo Kuba or Gonchar either). can;t change the past; i hope GMBM keeps in mind his aging D investments in the future.
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Currently 25th on PK
surprising. Thought we’d be better.
And I think our forwards do a good job, Condra, Smith, especially. I can’t say I have noticed Phillips prowess on the PK. Just two years ago, we did.
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I am loving that Petersson is rounding into form
That kid has superb skills and if he is getting used to the NA game already and showing what he can do I think the potential for him to make the big club is getting better and better…he could be the most natural scorer on the team in a few years.
Love his speed and shot and glad he is getting to play with Locke.
Too bad that DaCosta fell off a ppg pace though…did he go pointless this weekend? Either way, I think he will do enough to stay on the radar as well
I am concerned about Zibanejad's...
…. ability to perform in NHL playoff scenarios.
I mean, sure, he was good at the WJHC and all, but look at his playoff ‘beard’:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPVSTvUFUI&feature=endscreen&NR=1
by StraightFromTHM on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions
You are right, never dawned on me to look at it from the "beard" angle....insightful.
by whatsinaname on Jan 10, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Should we worry about Karlsson then?
by RogerTheShrubber on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Karlsson is 2-3 years older than MZ. Besides, Erik is so confident
if he says there’s a stache under his nose, you are inclined to believe him.
by whatsinaname on Jan 10, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Good to see the B-Sens turning things around
It’s about time. The team’s just getting healthy, I guess.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jan 10, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions
Disappointing year
hopefully they finish strong.
I am glad they kept a guy like locke; makes the team competitive. Would have been nice to keep Derek Smith and/or Andre Benoit, but Smith is in the NHL now looking decent, and Benoit is leading the high life on Siberia (recent article, i believe in the Globe and Mail or Star, about North Americans and the transition to life over there).
The article sounds like Benoit can’t wait to come back; we should lock him up as soon as he hits these shores for the AHL club. A winning atmosphere for the future Sens is only a good thing.
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Agreed
But dealing with and overcoming obstacles can be a good thing too.
While the vast majority of key players from last season are gone if they new guys can turn it around and play some solid hockey to finish the season it will all be worthwhile. Good on coach K to have them starting to at least win the weekend series…taking 2 of 3 is a pretty good pace.
Also agree on Locke and the fact he seems to be playing with Petersson is a great move IMO since they both compliment each other.

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