Silver Nuggets: Development camp finished; Petersson coming to North America
by Adnan on Jul 4, 2011 1:01 PM EDT
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July 1st came and went, and the Ottawa Senators stayed sensible and didn't give out wild contracts like the Florida Panthers among others. The only one-way contract the Senators gave out was to backup goaltender Alex Auld. With a likely top six of Jason Spezza, Nikita Filatov, Bobby Butler, Daniel Alfredsson, Milan Michalek and one of Peter Regin, Stephane da Costa or Mika Zibanejad, the only roster play the Senators might add is a bottom six forward. Even then, assuming Bobby Butler gets a one-way contract, Ottawa will have 10 forwards on one-way deals, and Nikita Filatov should figure in the NHL too. That only leaves one other spot, and I would rather it be a two-way deal to allow flexibility for call-ups. On defence however, starting next season, the Senators have a lot of options, with only Sergei Gonchar and Chris Phillips under contract. For this season, there are already too many in contention.
Here are today's links:
General Sens News
- The Ottawa Senators development camp wrapped up this morning with a 3 on 3 tournament. Peter will have a report on this later as he was in attendance, but here is a list of the teams. (Ottawa Senators)
- Jakob Silfverberg, who has been impressing both fans and management, is flattered with the attention. However, if he came to training camp and didn't make the Ottawa team, he would have missed the first six weeks of the Swedish League. For this reason, he chose to stay in Sweden rather than risk playing in the AHL. Next season, he will have to come to North America. (Ottawa Citizen)
- Mark Stone's main handicap is his skating. In fact, Randy Lee went as far as to say that his skating is below average. Meanwhile, Andre Petersson is coming over to North America and will be playing either in Ottawa or Binghamton. (Ottawa Citizen)
- I am not sure I agree with the Sun that we have two openings on defence, or up to three if Filip Kuba is traded. In either case, Patrick Wiercioch isn't giving up on being part of Ottawa's defensive future despite the number of players ahead of him. There are going to be openings starting in 2012-2013. (Ottawa Sun)
More after the jump.
General Hockey News
- As most of you may have heard by now, Dany Heatley was traded to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for Martin Havlat. As Havlat was my first favourite player, I sure would have loved this trade two season ago. (Silver Seven Sens)
- Brian Burke of the Toronto Maple Leafs marched in Toronto's Pride Parade yesterday, wearing a Leafs jersey with his son Brendan's name on it. (Toronto Star)
- While Brad Richards' ridiculous deal was perfectly fine with the NHL, Max Talbot's 5 year $9 million deal apparently was not. The problem? In year three, the salary drops to $1 million from $2.25 million in the first two years. The salary drop in year three can't be more than 50% of the lowest salary in the first two years. (Yahoo!)
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I can’t picture a scenario by which Wiercioch makes the team in the fall. Even if Kuba is gone, there is no way the defence sports three rookies at once.
What about Rundblad? I don’t think he’s locked down a spot yet. I think he could benefit from top minutes in Bingo, maybe for up to half a season. Cowen, on the other hand, will probably gain little from the AHL
Also, a quick note on Brian Burke. I thoroughly dislike the way he does business, and think he has lied to Leafs fans about their current “rebuild”. He has no grand plan, and confuses poor Leafs fans with landscape-shifting deals that don’t make anything better. But the way he has handled his son’s sexuality, and his death, are both honourable and respectable. I have learned to seperate Burke the general manager from Burke the man. He is more of a man than most, and I commend him for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y
by bacraswell on Jul 4, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I would say Rundblad is more ready than Cowen
Mostly because Rundblad played an entire season against adults in the SEL and won defenceman of the year. Cowen played a couple of rounds in the AHL, not a whole season.
Completely agree on your Burke comments though.
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Rundblad / COwen
Playing against adults in the Swedish League does not in any way equate to being NHL ready. Rundblad looked like a fish out of water… playing a different style than he is used to playing and playing safe out of fear.
Cowen although he is raw looks like he has the strength and the balls to be NHL ready.
Oh, well I am pretty sure Rundblad will play
Pierre Dorion said Rundblad was NHL ready even in the middle of this season.
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It's not like he'll jump in and light it up right away
It doesn’t really matter how long we wait, he’s never going to be a natural. The point is that if you get him in now, he spends the first 20 games (or thereabouts) getting accustomed to the style of game, and then fits in better.
We did it with Karlsson, and I’ve got to think Rundblad is more able to adjust than Karlsson was simply because of his size. No need to panic.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 5, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree on Burke
100% on his leadership wrt a person’s sexuality, especially for a man involved in professional sports. Abject morons like Rob Ford could learn a thing or two from Brian Burke.
I suspect that Burke’s hands (much like Murray’s for a spell) have been tied from doing exactly what he’d like by MLSE. I also think he likes to wheel and deal too much. I’d hate to see him in a Casino.
Ditto
I’m not sure about him as a general manager, but I definitely respect Brian Burke himself.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
As a GM, I don’t care for him at all. As a person, I have a ton of respect for him. I think it was a disgrace to question his presence in Afghanistan on July 1st.
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It was absurd
Telephones are magical devices. So are assistant GMs. So is advance scouting and preparation.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Take Brian Burke and a Camera Crew to Niagara Falls casino. Give him 5,000 bucks and let him loose.
Hilarity Ensues.
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Hoooonk hoooonk honk honk hooooonk
That's the sound the train horn makes
Suck it, Toronto
I don't see Wiercioch causing much ruckus
I’ll admit it was just development camp, but today he looked soft and timid on the ice. He’s not as NHL-ready as either of Cowen or Rundblad, in my opinion; I’d go so far as to say Gryba and Lyamin would be better options than Wiercioch right now.
He’s still got a lot of maturing to do as a player, in my opinion.
(Although I expect him to say making the Sens is his goal.)
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Why Silfverberg chose to return to the SEL when he's impressing everyone has been my main question of this camp
But I understand his rationale, and I’m now OK with it.
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6 weeks seems crazy, I don’t see how their season is so long, especially when it isn’t as many games as the NHL schedule.
It isn´t really that long.
But starts and ends a lot erlier than the NHL. Regular season in the SEL ends at the beginning of Mars, play off at mid April.
i dunno...
it still seems a little short-sighted to me. If your goal is to be an NHLer, i’d sooner see evidence of some killer confidence that he feels he can and will make the big team and come over already. Good grief, i mean 6 weeks in the SEL vs. starting your NHL career…
I don't think it's short-sighted
If anything, I think it’s better for his future. Looking at his size, strength, and speed, he was already blowing away opponents in development camp; with more work on it, and what will almost surely be a monster year in the SEL, I think Silfverberg will come back better for it.
Also, I think this means we’ll get an extra year out of him on the entry-level contract.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we will get another year out of entry-level
Seeing as how Rundblad only has 2 years left on his now, despite never playing in NHL. But we will get an extra year before UFA though I think.
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I don’t understand. Why would a player’s entry level contract decrease when he has not played in the NHL at all? Can someone explain how this works?
I don't know exactly either
But that is what it says on CapGeek for Rundblad. Maybe it just starts from whenever you sign the contract. It also says Silfverberg will expire in 3 years from now, which means we’ll get 2 years for him.
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I have to believe those numbers are assuming NHL play this season
The database management would be much more of a pain in the ass if they actually took the time to track everyone’s contract status, no?
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Hmm it's possible
I guess I don’t really know. Can you think of a player who signed a contract and then went back to Europe and has signed a new deal since in post-lockout?
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It's apparently an age thing
An entry-level contract will ‘shift’ forward if the player who signed it is under doesn’t turn 20 in the year the contract was signed. This explains why Rundblad’s contract won’t slide forward (and we burned a year last season). It also leads me to believe that Silfverberg’s contract won’t slide, either, but if we sign Zibanejad and he heads to Sweden this season, his ELC will slide.
From CapGeek:
If a player aged 18 or 19 signs an entry-level contract with a club (with his age calculated on Sept. 15 of the year he signed the contract) but does not play in at least 10 NHL games, the contract will “slide” or be extended one year. The extension does not apply if the player turns 20 between Sept. 16 and Dec. 31 in the year he signed the contract.
Depending on the contract’s structure, the player’s cap hit can be affected either by an increase or a decrease. Players who sign at age 18 can have their contract extended (or “slide”) two seasons.
CBA reference: Section 9.1 (d) (P. 23-24)
H/t to Bruce Peter from PuckWorlds for the info.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, awesome, thanks Peter! (And Bruce)
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Has Silfverberg signed a contract with the Senators already? Or do the Senators simply own his rights due to drafting him? Obviously, Ottawa merely owns the rights to guys like Noesen as there has not been time to negotiate and sign a contract yet. Where does Silverberg fall in all thing? And, if he has not signed a contract yet does his age affect the terms when he does sign?
Yeah he signed at the end of May this year
You have to sign your prospects within 2 years or they go back into the draft. This is why Calgary was forced to trade Tim Erixon for a bag of pucks.
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Yeah but where would he fit in?
There doesn’t appear to be any space for him right now. He’s better off working in the SEL, gaining skills, and then dominating as a rookie in a years.
Smart vs. Dumb...
I think it is a good move by him. This year it is not guaranteed that he will play top 6 mins with all the vets and filatov/butler playing ahead of him. Wait until next year when things have shaken off a little and come into the league that has been able to establish a base with a new coach and then be an actual addition when it matters. Another year wouldn’t hurt him as it hasn’t hurt Rundblad playing one more year in the SEL.
Personally I would wait until next year for him cuz then he can jump in with Big Z, Lehner, Pettersson and the other swedes and excel.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
also...my username
as much as I like having my name show up, how do I change it to something else ?
Can you send me an e-mail?
I’ll try and have it changed for you. My e-mail is on my profile (just click my name right below this comment and you’ll see it).
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
No worries..
I just thought it was something I could have changed on my own, but I’m thinking because I logged in with Facebook it won’t allow me..I’ll just leave as is until I get a stalker..haha
by Broken Heater on Jul 4, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Petersson
I really like Petersson’s heart / compete level / energy. I believe that we have a really good one here, and I’m glad he’s coming over to the right side of the pond. With one year in Bingo, I believe he’ll be challenging for Alfy’s spot.
Lack of toughness is a big issue
After watching all the prospects and looking over what the new Sens are going to look like, my biggest worry is that we will not be even close to being tough enough. We have toughness in our organization and alot of it (Cowick, Grant) is not NHL ready and may never be.
With Carkner, Cowen, Winchester, Zack and Neil leading the tough brigade, this is not major minutes guys. Can Michalek even throw a check without reinjuring himself? Will Phillips ever use his size? We basically shipped out the majority of our toughness in the past few years.
We look like a team that will be really easy to play against. In the next few years, it looks like the only new toughness will come from the back end.
Seriously?
Kramer, Blood, and Cowick were all mean.
Also, drafting tough guys is rarely necessary. They’re always out there.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 5, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume you didn’t miss the fact that Ottawa just signed Konopka?
Guys like Z’jad and Noesen, while maybe not being "tough, certainly seem to fall into the category of “take a hit to make a play” and “go to the net”. The team might not be that tough next season, but there is some hope on the horizon.
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