Dany Heatley traded to Minnesota Wild for Martin Havlat
TSN is reporting that former Ottawa Senator (and now former San Jose Shark) Dany Heatley has been traded to the Wild for former Senator Martin Havlat. Heatley still has a NTC as far as we know, so presumably he authorized this trade. Guess the grass is always greener.
The former 50-goal scorer had 66P (28G 38A) in 80 games, and 9P (3G, 6A) in 18 playoff games last year.
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Home opener is now against Dany Heatley and the Wild!
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I bet the Wild won't spend the whole 3rd trying to get him a goal
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I find it ironic that Dany Heatley wanted an NTC before realizing that his true calling was to become the new Mike Sillinger.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 3, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for hilarity
Who had Minnesota in the “Dany Heatley unhappiness” trade pool?
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Heatley and Setoguchi reunited
What’s the deal with MIN and SJ and these trades?
Who do you think wins here?
Will Dany Heatley become the new Jon Cheechoo?
Cheechoo did his scoring based on skating rather than shooting
That’s why he plummeted so quickly once a few injuries took their toll. Heatley, on the other hand, is one of the best pure shooters in the game. I believe his numbers are dropping as lack of conditioning catches up with him.
If, say, he spends the summer training with Gary Roberts a la Stamkos, I bet his production would hit its previous levels. But given that his career seems to be defined by running from adversity rather than challenging it, I think that’s unlikely.
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That's what I'm thinking.
He’s a very good goal scorer. But he has one move – and once the opposing defense figured that out, he got screwed.
What I’m wondering is WHY THE WILD DID THIS DEAL? Heatley is more expensive for three of four years, is less of a team player, and has a reputation for being a locker room cancer/playoff underachiever.
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Wild would rather make the playoffs rather than miss them. Heatley can help deliver that regardless of his output during the postseason.
Except that Heatley and Havlat had almost mirror seasons last year
Heatley has been far more durable throughout his career, I suppose. I don’t understand how the Wild benefit from this, except to hope that he returns to 50-goal form.
There’s not much reason to believe that will happen, but hey—we took Cheechoo hoping for 50.
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Well it does save them $2.5 million in cap space
If they have mirror seasons again, Sharks could win just on that as it would give them flexibility in adding others.
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Not the Wild though.
The deal is great for SJS – save $2.5 mill a year, only you have one extra year @ $5mill.
But for the Wild? You gain a guy who hasn’t performed, isn’t a leader and is more expensive. I don’t get it.
Good insight
I used to hate how he would always wait for the one timer. That’s his “move”.
He has demons to overcome and you are right, he needs to get someone to rejuvenate his career before being traded back to Ottawa for a Cup run in a few years.
That home opener is going to be electric. If I lived in Ottawa, I’d go in a heartbeat.
Speaking of Stamkos, what’s up with him?
Yeah, watching him skate in circles tapping the ice got on my nerves
But, shit, could the guy shoot.
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Okay, I really want to go to the home opener now
Booing Heatley AND home opener, I can take a day off for that.
Let’s organise a Silver Seven game night!
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by Adnan on Jul 3, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Do it!
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
If you seriously want to do it
Put up a poll or something and let’s gauge interest. We might be able to do a suite!
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I am serious!
Though polls are always inflated, but I guess I can try!
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A suite on opening night?
I’ve got to think that will be costly…
Are we talking a 400-level suite?
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly have no idea
But opening night is no more expensive than any other game in that price level, and Minnesota will generously be a silver-level game (but may well be bronze). If we have enough people to seriously look into it, I’ll email my guy and get a quote, which can take into account the 15% discount I could get from my unused season ticket holder benefits.
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Oh well it doesn't matter to me
I will go in any section, but whatever works for other people I guess.
On a side note, do you know anyone willing to sell their all star and/or skills comp tickets and if so much?
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No chance
I don’t know anyone else who has tickets, let alone anyone who would consider selling them. You should still be able to get on the waitlist (season ticket holder purchase deadline is Friday), and other than that you can try Kijiji.
As for the home opener, I was planning on getting myself a pair of tickets to that game with my package, but if there’s a big group going I’ll sit with you guys. But I have to pick my games for my package by the end of the month, I believe, so it would be nice to get an idea of whether or not there’ll be a group. Of course, you guys can always buy more tickets with my discount if I get my own tickets to that game.
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No love for Pierre Thomas?
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according to dreger
“Heatley has a modified no-trade. Had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn’t go to before July 1. obviously Minny wasn’t on that list.”
Now Wyshynski is saying this was in original Ottawa contract
There was a window available at this time with only 10 teams not allowed.
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by Adnan on Jul 3, 2011 11:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If that's the case, we shouldn't have traded him unless the deal was one Murray felt was in our favor
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The NTC was modified during the contract
When he forced his way out of Ottawa, it was a full no-movement clause. But on July 1, 2011, he had to submit a list of ten teams he wouldn’t be traded to as part of a modified no-trade clause.
Because of the no-movement clause, Murray had three options at the time: Take the San Jose trade; keep Heatley in Ottawa until a better trade comes along; or sit Heatley for an entire season. The second one would likely have hurt the team’s dynamics, the third one would have been a huge waste of Melnyk’s money, so the first one—even if it was a bad return—was his only real option.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he did
The contract was structured in a rather strange way, to be honest. It wouldn’t really have mattered, except for Heatley’s demands making the structure work out terribly for the Senators.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
I thought it was just a clause in original contract that in 2011-2012, it would become limited no trade. But I haven’t looked into it.
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Sorry, it was in the original contract
I might not be explaining this clearly, but it was in the original deal.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I am not clear on what was in the contract
Did it say he can be traded to anyone but 10 teams on after July 1, 2011?
Or did it say he can be traded to anyone but 10 teams on after July 1, 2011 IF he already wavied his no trade clause once.
I.e., could the Sens have traded him to anyone but 10 teams today?
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I believe that's right
From what it sounds like, he had a full NTC up to this point. As of July 1, 2011, he had a list of 10 teams he could refuse a trade to. What we don’t know yet is if that list remains in effect for the remainder of the contract, or if it reverts back to a full NTC, say, at the start of the season.
Based on Doug Wilson’s use of the term “window” I think there was a limited amount of time in the contract that a full NTC wasn’t in effect, and then it reverts back.
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Right, I understand all that
But if the clause changed from full no-move to limited no-move as the contract matured, I feel like it was a mistake for Murray to have pulled the trigger when his leverage was lowest.
We outwaited Yashin to get the best possible return; I believe we could have done the same thing with Heatley.
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Big difference
Yashin was 1 year for $3.6m USD (adjusted for inflation, it was the equivalent of just over $4.6m USD in 2009). To wait out for the limited no-move for Heatley would have been $16m USD over 2 years.
But money hasn't ever been an object for the team under Melnyk
We spent to the cap before we had Heatley and we spent to the cap after we had him, too.
I believe waiting him out would have given us better leverage in making a deal.
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I definitely agree
Especially in an olympic year, the guy would have caved and accepted trade any where.
He did say he will report to camp though, so basically you either bench him or make a guy play who doesn’t want to be there. But like you said…worked with Yashin.
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Not just about the money, though
My point is that the situations were different. Though one last note on the money, I’m pretty sure Ottawa didn’t pay Yashin for 1999-2000 (maybe pro-rated to the date where they suspended him).
The team was in different situations – coming off their best regular season to date (at the time) vs a back half collapse. Though both were coming off a 1st round sweep exit from the playoffs.
Media coverage of the Sens (and in general) has evolved (aka intensified) somewhat since 1999 as well. There wasn’t near the constant frenzy over the Yashin dispute as there was over the Heatley trade demand. Sure, there was coverage, but it didn’t get turned into a freaking soap opera.
Then there’s the cap itself – there was no salary cap in 1999. As long as Heatley reported, the Sens couldn’t suspend him like they did with Yashin. At that point the team would be playing with $7.5m less in cap space, and no room to try and bring in any replacement production.
Could Murray have waited longer to get a better return on Heatley? Possibly, and I’m not trying to say otherwise. But the comparison to the Yashin situation is a bit of a red herring.
by B_T on Jul 4, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair points
The Yashin situation was pretty different.
As long as Heatley had full control over his destination through his NTC, I have no problem with what Murray did. But if there was a window (as it appears now there was) where the Senators could have made the best deal for them instead of for Heatley, I think I would have preferred to wait him out.
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I see where you're coming from, but I don't really agree
A month or two for a better return would be one thing, but if the intent had been to wait for the modified NMC to kick in I just don’t think that the increased return would have balanced out the 2 years of downsides.
by B_T on Jul 4, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, of course, my belief is that we wouldn't have had to wait the two years
We simply would have had to convince Heatley’s camp we were willing to wait that long. That’s more along the lines of what I was comparing the Yashin situation to. He came back and played the final year of his contract when it was clear we were willing to play hardball.
I think Heatley probably would have accepted “options” besides San Jose if it was clear the alternative was to play two more years under Clouston and then have limited say in where he got shipped to when the window opened up.
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But Heatley wasn't going to hold out
Yashin held out, and Ottawa had the cards. Heatley didn’t appear to be on the verge of holding out; he just would have come back, played well enough on the ice, but had no vested interest in truly being part of the ‘team’ or contributing to its greater success.
I think forcing Heatley to don a Senators sweater would have been a mistake, but that’s just me.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, what?
Did San Jose hire Cory Clouston or something? Or could it be that Dany Heatley is just an out and out dick? Minnesota is too good for him. I would have rather have seen him rot in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y
I agree. I’d totally love to see Crooklyn Banks throw stuff at him.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 3, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be awesome, rotting with the Panthers
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I'm know what you mean
I’m having a hard time imagining how the conversation went down:
Doug Wilson: “Flectch, sup? It’s D-Wil.”
Chuck Fletcher: “Chillin’.”
DW: “Me too. Someone brought tequila to the BBQ and I am fucked up!”
CF: “Yo, me too! I’ve had so much beer that I’m crunk. I think I shat in the cooler earlier, man!”
DW: (laughing too hard): “That’s classic, man. Listen, you wanna—you wanna know something? Like a secret?”
CF: (mumbles something that sounds like an affirmative)
DW: “Kay. I, uh.. I’m just gonna say it, OK? Are you sitting down? OK? Ready? OK? I, uh… I hate Dany Heatley.”
CF: “Huh?”
DW: “I fucking hate him. You want him?”
CF: “Uh, who now?”
DW: “Heatley. Are you listening?”
CF: “Not really. Someone’s dribbling a basketball and I can’t concentrate. I want to go dunk on them so bad, dude!”
DW: (more drunk laughing)
CF: “So what about Heatley again?”
DW: “You want him?”
CF: “Fuck it, why not? What do you want for him?”
DW: (long pause, trying to think of a player on the Wild): “Uh, Havlat?”
CF: “Whatever, yeah. I’m gonna do a can opener into the pool right now, dude. It’s gonna be epic. Are you listening?”
(the phone call ends after a loud splash)
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by Mark Parisi on Jul 3, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Ha!
I feel for next season’s game threads, we should have Mark describe the coach’s likely between period talks.
So good!
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Haha
Whats even more funny is this is actually silver seven news
Two former Senators!
Traded for one another!
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
i thought that after a few seasons hatin’ on dany would get old but now that we’ve entered the “karma” stage i think i’ll hate a little longer…
i got 50 bucks for cowen to lay him out at the home opener… anybody else wanna chip in the pot?
by The Ted Nolan Fanclub on Jul 3, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
all i can say
is i’m a little bit relieved i don’t have to hate san jose as much anymore.. i always like jumbo joe!
BUT
i did like minnesota… so that sucks a bit.
I felt the same way
Thinking on it for a few seconds though, I won’t let it affect my Minnesota love.
I still hate Heatley though.
Space for rent.
by awr.campbell on Jul 4, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
They've got a lot of players I like
And one I played hockey with!
So yeah, I felt kinda bad for hating Heatley enough to cheer against them.
by B_T on Jul 4, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
So can we get Cheechoo and send him back for Havlat now?
wouldn’t that complete the circle?
No, we'd still have to reaquire Hossa somehow
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And Greg de Vries
Nobody ever remembers Greg de Vries.
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by Ryan Classic on Jul 4, 2011 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's 'cause he was just a salary dump
Although he played some decent hockey in Atlanta.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd for hilarity
I gotta say, that made me laugh for a long, long time. Mainly because I pictured the following interaction in my head:
Greg de Vries’ Mom: You know what was a real humdinger of a trade? That Hossa for Heatley deal.
GdV: MOOOOOOMMM, FRIG OFF! I WAS IN THAT TOOO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y
This makes me happy.
I’m glad Havlat is getting a chance to win in SJ and this shows how far Heatley’s stock has fallen. I actually feel better about getting Michalek for him now.
When Ryan texted me this tonight, I thought it had to be a joke
I cannot believe it is real.
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You and Mark both gave me WTF-type responses
I like Darren’s Hossa for Chara suggestion. Let the circle continue.
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Poor Minnesota
Somebody should drop by Hockey Wilderness to give our condolences.
http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2011/7/4/2257856/heatley-for-havalt-the-morning-after
They seem to really like this trade O_o
Suddenly I care about the home opener beyond 'I've never seen the Wild before'
Between this and the fact that there should be a handful of players on each team who remember a pretty hard-fought Calder Cup final, should make for a pretty feisty first night of the 2011-2012 Scotiabank Place season.
Oh, and I submit my requisite Nelson-style “Haw Haw” at Heater for getting bumped from his dream destination after two seasons for being such a total nard.
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by Johnny_Spectacular on Jul 4, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions
RIGHT! These two (farm) teams faced off in the Calder finals!
Bad blood from the Calders + Heatley = Gonna be a helluva game!
I thought this was the most ridiculous thing I heard last night.
I didn’t take it seriously. Poor Wild!!
by Los Blancos Chicca on Jul 4, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions
Correction: shadenfreude = schadenfreude
Minor point, but this is a respectable news source, not the Sun we’re talking about.
Of course
My mom would kill me if she found out I was wasting all those years of German. Thanks!
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Heatley - a goal scorer on the decline
There is an endless market for goal scorers on the decline, and always another team hoping a guy will return to form. Truth is Heatley had it good here playing with one of the best passers around. Say what you want about Spezza, but it was endless the number of times he setup Heatley perfectly.
And then there was Alfy who did all of the grunt work for him. Skills don’t necessarily follow exactly when a guy changes teams. Without Spez and Alfy, Heatley is now less than a 30 goal scorer. Good for him I say. His greed got him what he deserves… a place in obscurity in Minny (joke).
Heatley is MUCH MUCH less effective playing with goal scorers, or guys who don’t do all of the grunt work for him as he stands in the slot, like Mark said, tapping his stick on the ice (while the other guys do all the work).
There once was a little all-star...
Who collected goals for a living. He would go to bed dreaming of garbage goals, with passes coming from much more talented teammates. For halloween, he would dress up like Jonathan Cheechoo. Sometimes, he would wake-up and accidently ask his mom for more “Goalio’s” instead of Cheerios, and the two of them would laugh well into the morning.
This little all-star had no wife and no kids. He counted on his Mom to dress him and feed him, and his Dad to help write response letters to local newspapers should the all-star do something to upset his fans. You see, this particular all-star was too good for anyone. He wouldn’t even acknowledge his own fans at the local watering hole. “I can play anywhere,” said the all-star “I’m very good at hockey”. So the all-star turned his back on his city, betraying the love of those who had followed him for so long.
“Where should I go, Mom?” The all-star asked. “Well,” said Mom with a grin “what’s your favourite food?” The all-star took a moment to think “Hmmmm…..I like….Tequila and BURRITOS!” So the all-star family headed South to Mexico part two. They liked the sun, and he also liked it when people said “what’s hockey?” He didn’t like it, though, when people asked “what happened to your eye?” and always responded with “My Dad says I don’t have to talk about anything I don’t want to.”
So the all-star was happy, lazing about by the side of his estate’s pool. “You don’t need fans if you have us” reassured his Mom, refilling her son’s lemonade. “Watch me do a dive, Dad!” said the all-star while climbling up onto the diving board. “You haven’t been practicing.” said Dad, looking up from his paper. “Who cares?” cried the all-star “everyone here loves me just the same!” So the all-star dove into the pool head first. His hair got caught in the pool filter and he fucking drowned to death.
The End.
Stirring it up
I can’t resist… I’m going to stir up some major shit on the Minny site once my registration goes through.
Try to be respectful
It is one thing to mock him on our own blog, but when you are on other people’s site, they are not going to appreciate it.
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I'm always respectful
On second thought I’ll let Heatley bust their bubble of illusion that the saviour has come.
Speaking of lack of respect… I was looking around on the Panthers site the other day and they were reaming Canadian reporters like a bunch of Klu Klux clanners.
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You won’t find any sympathy from us if you get banned.
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So … been roaming around FTF & Wilds site, and seems like you guys here are having fun at our expense. This Heatley thing really has you all in giggles huh? :)
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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We MAY have some lingering bitterness over how a player we embraced post-tragedy repaid that affection,
Plus we haven’t had much to cheer for since he left… We had Kovalev, for fuck’s sake.
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Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s funny – so many Silver Seven’s peeps fanning out over SBN. :)
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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In terms of villains, he's number two behind Yashin
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by Mark Parisi on Jul 4, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think there are some people who rank Heatley #1
Though they’re mostly whippersnappers who are too young to remember the entire Yashin saga.
by B_T on Jul 4, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Yashin was such a complete bastard for his whole time here. Heatley was just a selfish coward. It’s not even close in my eyes.
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Let's not get crazy here
There were some good times with Yashin. And in my opinion, the NAC debacle was overblown.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't remember many good times with Yashin, save his scoring
He demanded a contract renegotiation three times in five years, and sat out a year over money.
I guess he did love turtlenecks and Carol Alt, though.
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Oh no, he's number 1
Yashin isn’t playing any more, and the rest of his career after he left us was a downward spiral. Until the same happens to Heatley, he’s at the top of the list.
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Well I have
If I got the chance to punch Dany Heatley in the face, my only reason to hesitate would be that I’m pretty sure he’d hit me back.
If I got the chance with Yashin, I’d probably be mulling it over long enough for him to go fly back to Russia, which would be a while given airport security these days.
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Yashin ... barf
What really got me about Yashin was that he was really pissed when we won if he didn’t score. It’s no wonder the players hated him. Having a guy like that as your captain… give me a break. I never REALLY celebrated much when Yashin scored knowing what an asshole he was.
Yashin is still playing for SKA St. Petersburg
And was still over a point per game in 09-10.
by B_T on Jul 5, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
But he's not playing in the NHL
And hence can never win a Stanley Cup, not to mention now I don’t have to see him play or hear about him :)
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I don't know if we're laughing at the Sharks' expense
Most people here seem to think Havlat is the better player, so you guys salvaged the Heatley situation as well as you possibly could have. I say kudos, because I’m not confident in Heatley’s ability to contribute to a championship team. Your team, as a whole, is likely better off.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 4, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure not laughing at the Sharks' expense
Despite the difference in point production between the two players, I’d much rather have Havlat than Heatley these days.
by B_T on Jul 4, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t mean laughing, but just having fun with this all. Laughing at implies mean spirited and I wasn’t trying to imply that at all. :)
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If he can stay healthy I think Havlat will be a great addition to the Sharks. One thing that the Sharks can use a little more of is speed and Havlat has that in spades(at least he used to). He could be a very interesting complement to any of your centres, Thornton, Couture or Pavelski.
Additionally, congrats on getting out from under Heatley’s contract.
Dude? (glances down tank top) … Dude?? Damn!
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by Angy on Jul 4, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha! Rec'd for obvious reasons
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I like this trade for Minnesota
Regardless of what one has to say about Heatley, he’s a top offensive talent. He’s been injured in the playoffs the last two years, and I simply think that his past history has caused people to see the lack of success as due to his “character” rather than a mix of bad luck and injury trouble.
Minnesota has in the past (and I assume they will in the future) played a defensive style. Losing Burns won’t harm them much, I don’t think, and adding Setoguchi and Heatley will give them the needed punch up front. I think that long-term Heatley will be a more productive player than Havlat, even without Jumbo Joe.
Pissiness
He’ll be more productive in Minny cause he’ll be the main man. If the coach ever demotes him to a secondary role for a few shifts, he’ll find out what Heatley becomes when his “diminished role” pissiness begins.
i had such a good plan
one of my best friends knew heatley’s gf over the winter from med school and i wanted him to try n seduce her, take pictures, and use them at an appropriate time to make him lose it… but my man had too many morals… wah wahhh
One of my friends was intent on spreading a rumour that he ran out of town because he'd secretly fathered Spezza's baby
Feel free to pass that on if it helps!
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Who to hate?!
Someone said to me that I wouldn’t have to hate the Sharks anymore, but unfortunately I’ve spent too many years to quit now… It’s a real shame because I actually like the Wild (northern team/underdog) and Havlat.
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