Day Two of Development Camp!
Greetings again!
Due to my brother's graduation from high school today, I was only able to catch the last 40-45 minutes of the practice today, but I figured people here might still be interested!
I won't go through everyone today, as I can't honestly say I saw something from everyone, but hopefully the information (and opinions, remember, its just MY opinion!) is useful to you! I focused on the higher profile guys today, because I had limited time.
When I got there, the whole group was being shown about 10 different stations, that were to be done in pairs, and rotated. I stood in front of a drill that involved passing/puck control/tight turns, and also near a drill where guys started about 10-15 feet out from the goalie, trying to score. Across the ice was acceleration and power skating type drills. Also, I was one of the last people to leave as I watched the guys fool around. Most of my commentary will be about this.
Without further ado, here we go!
Defence
David Rundblad: A guy I gave a hard time to yesterday for not looking like he was focused or into it. I would say today (from what I saw) he was more into it, but it appears he might just be like that, a really laid back, calm guy. However, his puck handling/passing is obviously very good, and he even had some sweet hands around the net, converting some nice moves. At the end of the practice, him and Silfverberg (who seem to be buddies) stood just inside of the offensive zone, at opposite ends of the ice, saucer passing, and didn't miss once.
Jared Cowen: As expected, his puck control and passing were not his forte, but he was good at it. It was the power backwards skating drills on the other side that he was a complete beast during.
Patrick Wiercioch: My dad and I agreed, only one player did the passing/puckhandling/tight turn drill better than Wiercioch. He uses a really short stick for a guy his height, but man, this kid is smoother than warm butter.
Fredrik Claesson: Stayed with Zibanejad, Sorenson and Noesen on the ice LONG after everyone had left, shooting pucks from the point so Noesen could tip them.
Forwards after the Jump!
Forwards
Mike Hoffman: I said it yesterday, but I feel I must reiterate. He. Is. Filthy. His puck skills, around the net, and shot, are almost unrivalled at the camp. On the 10 foot breakaway drill (which, if you've ever done that, coming in with no speed, you know its very hard to beat the goalie) he scored nasty goal after nasty goal. I think he's poised for a breakout Bingo season.
Mark Stone: My dad looked at me at one point and said "he's not very good with the puck, is he?". To be honest, his puck control is poor. I am willing to bet most of his WHL 106 points came from right in front of the net. But as we decided later, all points count the same.
Jean-Gabriel Pageau: Man, is he ever small. He is strong for his size however. Only thing of note is, at the end, when the Djurgarden boys were playing with Noesen at one end, he was all alone at the other end playing around the net, which I found strange. I guess, while we have a large Swedish contingent that seems to stick together, we don't have many french players...
Stefan Noesen: For the second day, I found myself most intrigued by Stefan Noesen, because, while I was extremely familiar with many of the names expected to go in the first round, and the associated scouting reports that went with them, I hardly took a second look at Noesen. And then we picked him. Not only that, but many feel we reached on him. So now, I'm interested, and whenever he's in my vicinity at the camp, I have eyes for him only (is that weird?). Regardless. He is really good. He had a few shots today from in close, 10-15 feet out, and absolute snipes, picking corners the goalies didn't know existed, with a wrist shot I hardly saw yesterday. At the end he was tipping Claesson's shots, and you can tell that's a real strength of his. I'm getting excited about this kid.
Mika Zibanejad: Alright, its official. I'm pretty in love with this pick. Colour me one of those people who watched us pick Zibanejad and immediately thought, oh shit! They must not realize Couturier is still on the board! I have since been converted. He was much more relaxed today, laughing and joking with guys on the ice. And remember when I said only one guy had better puck control/passing/tight turns than Wiercioch? Ya. Zibanejad. He was so good at it, he dicked around putting it through his legs on the tight turns, like it was on a string. In the acceleration drill, his first few steps were incredible. I can only imagine how that acceleration will pair up with his enjoyment of physical play. At the end he spent time tipping Sorenson's shots, and he is very good with the puck, and his hand-eye is something else.
Jakob Silfverberg: Its official. I'm Tim Murray level pissed off at this kid. He could for sure step in to the Sens line up this year, and yet he's not even coming to camp. He has the best quick release to hard-ness(?) ratio on his wrist shot (if that makes any sense). Basically, his wrist shot it incredible, and its bar down before you know he has shot it. Can't wait for the year after next for this kid.
And there you are! An abbreviated version I know, I apologize, but hopefully some good info in there for you. Puempel skated with Filatov today, but they were done their on-ice portion by the time I got there, sadly. Also, I teach tennis tomorrow night right during the Scrimmage so pray for rain so that I may go and provide more information for you, and if not, hopefully someone else can step up!
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Awesome again today!
The Mike Hoffman reports seem pretty promising, but I don’t know what to think about him… he did come on strong towards the end of the season, so hopefully he can carry that momentum into this season.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 29, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks again Dave!
Awesome to hear about Zibanejad, puck control is so important these days. You can really wear down the opposition if you can stick handle and control the puck. Of course, it is different in game situations, but still an important thing to see.
As for Silfverberg, I wonder if he went back to Sweden because with all the one way contracts we have, there just isn’t a spot for him, or at least not a top six spot. So maybe the Murrays weren’t willing to give him an Ottawa spot before camp, so he just chose a higher level of competition (Sweden versus AHL).
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Silfverberg going to Sweden is his decision, not Ottawa's
Silfverberg wants to spend one last year in the SEL for some reason. From what I’ve read, I’d imagine he’d have a very, very good shot of making the team’s second or third line.
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Silfverberg's choice
I have no problem with him staying in Sweden for another year. The guy ought to be that much better when he arrives with an extra year of experience and confidence. The key with prospects is bringing them along at the pace that they can handle. After all, it’s not like Silfverberg will be the difference between this year’s Senators winning the cup or not.
Nobody's entitled to anything
Players need to learn that nobody is “entitled” to anything. Success at one level doesn’t mean success at another level. Scouts and GMs and coaches and everyone else categorizes you and you are stuck in that category until you prove otherwise time and time again on the real ice surface in real situations. Success in the AHL and even success at traiing camp doesn’t entitle you to anything.
The stakes are way too high to automatically award one way contracts based on performance at another level. Potulny will find this out and so will Locke and Sivfverberg.
All entry level deals are two way
So that’s not an issue. But if I am a Swedish player, I would rather play in the SEL than the AHL. One of the Swedish posters here pointed out that they consider the AHL a step down.
Darren pointed out though, that Silfverberg had a great chance to make Ottawa. So I am not sure why he chose not to come over. Maybe he feels he isn’t ready, who knows.
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by Adnan on Jun 30, 2011 9:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Potulny and Locke
We lost Potulny and Locke because they figure they’ve done enough and are entitled to one way contracts.
Let’s just see if any other team agrees with them.
I haven't seen anywhere where "they" figure they've done enough
I don’t get any sense of entitlement from Potulny. It seems to me like the Senators think he played well enough to earn a one-way deal from another team. They knew that wasn’t something they were going to offer him, so rather than impeding his career, they gave him an opportunity.
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by Mark Parisi on Jun 30, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're confusing the pronouns
My read is: [Ottawa] lost Potulny and Locke because [Ottawa] figure[s] [Potulny and Locke] have done enough and are entitled to one way contracts.
And considering that one of the Murrays said so, that’s reasonable. Then again, maybe I’m wrong in which case I agree with you.
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I could be misreading it
Stupid English language.
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AHL players make about as much money as the rest of us
Except the can only earn this until they are 35-40. They spend their careers riding buses for hours around the country.
If they can even get one season at an NH minimum salary, it is about 10 years of the average AHL salary.
Wanting an NHL contract after you have a good AHL season is not entitlement, it is their livelihood.
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by Adnan on Jun 30, 2011 12:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The rest of us?
I would assume there’s a pretty big salary range on this blog…
Also, if Ottawa signed them to two-way deals, don’t they make NHL-level money while they’re here? I don’t think they’re actually looking at a full season in the AHL vs a full season in the NHL, I think it’s between splitting their time or a full time NHL gig.
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Ha!
I gave up on comparing myself to professional hockey players when it started making me feel like an immense failure because I only have two degrees and haven’t even made a million dollars yet.
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Too digrees?!
Thoughts reel goud! Eye donned half nun. Wuz two herd fir mi…
by Pmoron on Jul 3, 2011 2:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not always
Some of the better AHLers get pretty solid contracts. Corey Locke, for instance, is making $250k in the AHL. Good players there still make good money, they’d just make more if they played in the NHL (Locke’s NHL salary would be $550k).
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe Locke is still under contract with the Senators next season (and will likely play in Bingo barring a call-up). It’s Potulny and Bass who we lost.
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Locke is still under contract
So he’s not gone anywhere. Losing Potulny will be tough, but the team made it through the regular season without him last year, too. There will be other players who can fill that role.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 30, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks man
Good to have a man on the case. Great news on Zibanejad, Wiercioch and Silfverberg. I’m okay with Silfverberg going back one more year. It’d be nice to see some immediate dividends, but patience is the key. The Sens can sandbag the league for one more year, get another couple high picks, and then hit em with all they’ve got in 2012/13.
Also, nothing on Prince? Haha I hope I don’t sound unappreciative for all this top notch recon, but I’m just curious, because Prince was, by your admission, the most impressive guy yesterday. And I’ve read a lot about him being a steal at 61.
Thanks again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y
because I focused so heavily on him yesterday, I thought I'd look closer at a couple other guys
and from what I’ve seen, he’s most impressive off the rush, and I didn’t watch any drills like that today! Sorry man. I’ll make sure to provide more on him next time!
http://ottawasconsensus.blogspot.com/
Ok – this effing blackberry posting is BS (every other button appears to be “post” in disguise!). Anyway, Hoffman did it all for the Sea Dogs in 09-10 (league MVP) then faded in the playoffs. He may take a while to develop at the pro level (he was slowish developing in Major as well). He has a rocket of a shot from the point though which he played often on the PP in Saint John. Here’s hoping.
by west-sider on Jun 29, 2011 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's really interesting.
I’m curious to see how the Swedish players mesh with the NA players. It seems like there might be some bonding going on which is good, but as long as the players work together that will be interesting.
I mean, it’s not like Any Given Sunday or Coach Carter or Rudy where the team is split down the middle on some contentious issue, but it could be an interesting locker room dynamic.
its funny
You can see there are some friendships that exist. Sorenson and Zibanejad are literally attached at the hip. Silfverberg and Runblad. The Bingo guys (including Cowen actually) are all pretty tight. Peltz and Sorenson seem to be buddies. Noesen seems to be happy as long as he’s playing with the puck around the net, doesnt matter who with.
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Silfverberg
With respect to the exchnage above, this would be a good argument for coming over to AHL: palying with your future team mates and identifying with the team. That being said, I still think he will benefit from playing where the highest level of competition is. He can always make friends once he’s ripping it up at the Piggy Bank.
by Be_rad on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As I said yesterday, thank you so much for these write ups. I’m loving them.
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ALSO
Thought I should mention that MacLean was in attendance today
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This is great! Thanks so much Dave.
I may have to stop paying attention. I’m so excited for the season to start so I can see the team in action. I’m reading all I can on our prospects & am not getting near enough work done!
Its going to be a good few years coming up!
I wouldn’t read too much into the players forming there own groups. It is human nature to gravitate towards people who have obvious commonalities. As they get to know one another, and go through the team building process they will integrate well.
I am the exact same way.
I am so busy at work that I haven’t had time to comment on anything though. I tried to make up for it yesterday.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Jun 30, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Scrimmage tonight
Thanks a a million for this post. I’m looking forward to the scrimmage and hope that Filatov shows up tonight. I’ll be there checking everyone out. I’ll share my impressions afterwards.
Michael Young
Who in their right mind graduates in the middle of Sens Development Camp?
And on the same note Dave, who in their right mind teaches tennis?
On a more positive note, you rock. And when you say “this is only MY opinion”, I know deep down it’s mine as well. <3
I love you.
Bwahahaha... what?
Best comment ever.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 30, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Silfverberg
Anyone know what wing he is most comfortable on? Any idea what he plays in Sweden?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y
He's most comfortable on Spezza's wing, damn it!
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by Mark Parisi on Jun 30, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, you have chosen your signature wisely.
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by Mark Parisi on Jun 30, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Puempel and Filatov
I went and watched these two about fifteen minutes into their power skating session with Mark Power. Puempel seemed to be much better at many of the footwork drills, but I would attribute that mostly to Filatov playing with skaters 2 sizes to big and hearing Power audibly say “He’s never done this drill before” multiple times. As one of my friends speculated, maybe none of Columbus’ prospects pan out because they have no idea how to develop talent. As the power skating wore on it became evident that Filatov is a beast. His lower body is comparable to Malkin in it’s strength. Four strides from the end line to blue line powerful. Puempel had a bit more of a short choppy stride, but I can’t say how much of that is due to his hip obviously not being 100%. At the end of the power skating Power said “let’s have a little fun,” and place five pucks at the ringette line. He then told them they had to hit five cross bars before leaving the ice. Puempel went bar down on the first two and hit the cross bar dead on with his last puck. Filatov hit only one in his first round, again bar down, but he didn’t miss the net once. Puempel again went 3 for 5, all bar down this time, and Filatov went 2 for 5. Coming off the my friend and I talked to both Puempel and Filatov. Puempel seemed like a timid kid and laughed when I told him I can’t wait til he scores 50. Filatov seemed relieved to be out of Columbus, although he did turn down our invitation to get beers after practice. All in all I would say that Filatov really impressed me with his skating. It seems like the development staff dropped the ball in grooming him, and through small tweaks to his game he has the potential to be as good as Malkin in a short period of time. Puempel definitely showed why he was regarded as a top 7 pick at the beginning of the year. His release is unbelievable and he seemed to be working really hard on his skating. He definitely needs to get lower and lengthen his stride, as Power repeatedly said, but this guy is a goal scorer who cares if he’s the smoothest skater as long as he gets to his spot. I definitely saw a Brett Hall aptness at quieting the puck out of him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in the NHL in 2012-2013.
That's some promising stuff
Too bad about the beers!
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by Mark Parisi on Jun 30, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Opinions on a couple of other guys
Shane Price: Easily the hardest working player there today. Chewed these NCAA goalies apart and spit them out. Just picked corner after corner.
Cowen: Had some surprisingly good hands on the 10 foot break away, but he used the same move every time (even if it did score every time). Wasn’t overly physical, although there was a drive to the net in 3 on 3 where Pageau tried to stop him from getting inside and he pushed him off like a Pee Wee player.
Jakub Culek: This is big kid. His hands look at least above average, although motivation and foot speed don’t quite seem there yet. He has the feel of Radek Bonk, but hopefully he’ll use that size a bit more than Bonk did.
Mark Borowiecki: A mean player who isn’t afraid to mix it up even with future team mates. Got into it a bit with Darren Kramer and did not back down at all. Seems to be buds with Cowen. Might turn into an NHL player as Tim Murray believes, but I won’t hold my breathe.
Ben Blood: The man with THE name. Not a whole lot to talk about other than his size. He was not good during the outlet pass drill, even without any defenders. I would temper the wishes for a Blood from a Stone connection.
Caprousso and Hamilton both showed flashes, but are undersized and I’m not sure how their skills will translate.
Da Costa and Cannone easily have the worst shot at making Ottawa or Bingo. Da Costa remains completely disinterested, and Cannone is very small and just not very good all around.
Bad news on the Da Costa front
Hopefully that picks up for the main camp.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 30, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
What's up with that?
I can’t believe that an NHL hockey team doesn’t have a pair of skates for Filatov. I thought that these companies die to have their brand of skates seen on an NHL player.
Apparently he wanted a pair of broken in skates, although it does seem weird they couldn’t find a pair in his size. To be a complete contrarian to my previous point, guys are particular about their brands, so who knows.
They should have just baked some skates
Breaks them in right away. It’s pretty incredible, really…
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you all for your opinions!!
I AM SO PUMPED TO SEE THESE GUYS PLAY. I hope I make it out to one of the development days.
I believe it when people say that Filatov may have not been developed properly… this gets me excited because the Murrays, the people at Bingo and MacLean all have good experience developing players and achieving great results.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Jun 30, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
Just a bit of bragging here
I can say with almost certainty that I got the first Nikita Filatov autograph as a Senator.
Yeah, but you also got shot down by Filatov
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I don't get it...
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by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He asked Filatov if he wanted to go for a beer
Filatov said no.
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