Silver Nuggets: Silfverberg and Caporusso sign; Mock draft for 21st pick
by Adnan on May 30, 2011 1:00 PM EDT
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The Binghamton Senators will return to action on Wednesday night when they host Game 3 of the Calder Cup Finals. That is also Game 1 of the Stanley Cup finals, a full five days after the Boston Bruins clinched their series. Personally, I think Game One should have been tonight as the Bruins should have had to "suffer" for not winning their series earlier than seven games. Also, I got to feel bad for Vancouver fans, 5:00 local start times! Though, if we were playing Vancouver in the final, I would feel differently.
General Sens News
- Jakob Silfverberg is expected to soon sign a contract with Ottawa, but he is expected to stay in Sweden for another season on loan. (Steve Lloyd)
- There have been several mock drafts with Ottawa's sixth overall pick. But here is a look at a mock draft where the Sens are on the clock for their later first round pick. Senshot selects Nicklas Jensen from Denmark. (Senshot)
- Here is a look at the Senators decision to pick Wade Redden over Zdeno Chara and letting Anton Volchenkov go but not Chris Phillips. Also, one Senator fan feels that the organisation has disrespected defencemen. (The 6th Sens)
- Binghamton may have returned home with a series split, but they feel they have a lot of room for improvement. Robin Lehner luckily kept them in both games, one of which they pulled out. (Press & Sun-Bulletin)
- UPDATE: The Senators have signed Louie Caporusso to a two-year entry level contract. (Ottawa Senators)
More after the jump.
General Hockey News
- The Winnipeg/Atlanta saga draws a bit closer to its end. The Winnipeg lawyers have signed off and the Atlanta lawyers are in the process of doing so. Only the board of governors approval remains after that. (Bob McKenzie)
- Here is a look at a comparison of the forwards on the Vancouver Canucks and Boston Bruins. (Yahoo!)
- Winnipeg born Jonathan Toews talks about a possible return of the NHL to his home town. (Yahoo!)
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that 6th Sens blog post was awesome, Im still pissed off we accepted Kuba in a damn trade oh well whatever.
Also I feel a connection coming with Caporusso and as usual Ill probably spend most my time defending his existence on this team
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SILFVERBERG!!!!
I thought he was supposed to come over this year? Lame. Although I guess that means more opportunities for the prospects already here.
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 30, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah that was surprising
Maybe the Sens told him he would likely play in the AHL, and he preferred Sweden instead of that, feeling that he can directly jump to NHL if he comes next year.
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It's likely so he can play another year at either wing
He’s played centre for most of his career, and only started playing wing this season.
by Alexander Calloway on May 30, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't he do that in the AHL if he wanted to?
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I don't see why not
I’m pissed about the news.
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Tim Murray is saying its his decision now
by Alexander Calloway on May 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares?
I am not mad about this at all. Alfie came over at 22 and has had a long and fruitful Sens career. I think more players should take their time jumping to the NHL if they are not physically or mentally ready for it. I would rather him come over a year later and have a good shot at succeeding than come sooner without confidence and washout.
Totally agreed
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Then what was this all about:
He’d better fucking come over
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 31, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha... It was about overreaction, mostly
My preference for player development is in the environment they’ll be playing in. I’m not convinced another year not on North American ice is the best thing for Silfverberg — it wasn’t for Zubov, who wanted a top six minutes, but couldn’t actually perform at that level (not that I think Silfverberg has the same kind of ego).
That doesn’t mean that I want to rush him into a role that he’s not ready for. I just don’t see why he can’t “get stronger” in the AHL if that’s his goal. Based on Binghamton’s season, I think that’d be a VERY good environment for a winger who’s looking to develop further, you know?
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That´s exactly why.
“I need to be stronger, physically as well as mentally before heading over there and I feel that staying another year in Brynäs his SEL-team) is the right way for me to achieve that.”
Roughly translated comment by Silfverberg in a local newspaper. I belive there is a few more reasons too, but that one is mainly why he stays in Sweden.
And to stay back home another year was one of his demands to sign.
Oh…and he is a winger, allways has been.
Well, he knows his body better than I do
Tim Murray said they’re 100% behind him either way, so I guess we should be as well.
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice signing of Caporusso but
Its disappointing that Silfverberg won’t be over next year.
I realize that in the days of yore certain guys (Dackell, Arvedson) came over straight to the NHL, but these guys were older prospects, veteran european players in their mid-20s.
I think Silfverberg will need some AHL development. With our current cast
Greening-Spezza-Butler
Michalek-??-Alfredsson (?)
Foligno-Smith-Condra (likely to be signed)
Regin-Winchester-Neil
He could have made this team with a great camp. He was another reason to be excited for the immediate future, for camp. I guess we will have to wait one more year.
by DontfeedtheBelak on May 30, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
I also think that Silfverberg would have benefited from a year potentially playing alongside Alfie, especially considering the rest of the Swedish Contingent on this team. Personally, I have significant concerns about Alfredsson returning to the team after this upcoming season.
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 30, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially if we get Lando!
Rundblad, Karlsson, Lando, Silverberg, Lehner …
Damn. We’d be a flat packed powerhouse!
Landeskog
very unlikely.
If we stay at 6, we are going to miss out on Larsson, RNH, and Landeskog, by most accounts. Perhaps Huberdeau too, the way he tore it up in the Memorial cup and playoffs. We have a better chance of whomever falls between Couturier and Dougie Hamilton. of the high end guys. Or we’ll go with Strome of an off the board pick (I hope that doesn’t happen).
by DontfeedtheBelak on May 30, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Strome isn't far off the board...
He’ll certainly be top ten, and I’d be surprised if he isn’t seventh overall if Ottawa and the five teams ahead pass on him.
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 30, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
True
it should have read
Strome OR an off the board pick.
Strome may end up like Stephan Weiss, down the road. He certainly would be a good pick and has the chance for a good NHL career. Still, his upside doesn’t match that of the top few guys.
by DontfeedtheBelak on May 30, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen everyone ranked from 2-4 in all permutations depending on who you ask.
It seems like it’ll be a crapshoot, and they all seem like good talented players.
He's on the 1st line in that scenario above
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Silverberg would have made the forward line up this year
Unless we sign that reclusive “free agent forward” we’ve been looking for. But that being said, if we get Landeskog, he could suit up this year if it helps his development.
I think its more than official
that Landeskog is out of our reach at this point.
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What the hell, Silfverberg!?
You were supposed to come over and be all awesome! You are now Ilya Zubov to me.
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aaand Silverberg is officially signed
cant wait till he’s good enough to trade for picks
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I hope he's good enough that we never have to talk if trading him for picks is the best move for the franchise
So there! ;)
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oh but when he's that good
He’ll fetch us the greatest return wont he? Its all about the return ;)
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It's all about context!
Context!
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 30, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Context matters
If you really think I’m advocating trading him merely because he’ll get a great return, you’ve completely missed the point. It’s not about the player, it’s about the team. Their futures are currently divergent.
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Thats why I said rationality
What you may think is rational for the team may not be another fan’s opinion. I didnt miss the point, but part of your argument was that his return would make our team better. Its why I avoided commenting because Ill get into a heated argument again. Probably reply in another manner
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Well, I don't believe opinion is a reasonable counterpoint to fact
The facts behind the case were pretty clearly laid out. If you have a factual disagreement, I’d love to hear it, and you should definitely post it!
I don’t see how anyone could dispute the fact that Spezza will begin to decline or that the Senators have just begun to rebuild, though.
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Him declining is not my problem
thats natural with any player, his impact on the team or his loss is where I disagree. Sadly I dont have the charts to prove it but I will let you know when I post my full reply
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My reply
hope it doesnt offend you or anyone else but its just my opinion:
http://aheadbyacentury.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/my-rationality/
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I posted a full reply on your blog
I’m not offended at all. In fact, I appreciate your opinion, and that you took the time to write such a well-thought out response, but unfortunately, an opinion cannot be used to argue against a fact.
Please consider re-reading what I’ve written in the article without emotional bias. I think you’ll find there’s reason to at least consider trading Spezza as the best long-term move for the team if they can’t add immediate NHL-ready talent to the roster.
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by Mark Parisi on May 30, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Granting the fact that there is reason to consider trading Spezza doesn’t mean that there’s a convincing reason to trade him. I think that’s Dew’s point, anyway, and I agree with it—were I in Bryan Murray’s position, it would take a hell of an offer for me to trade Spezza, despite the facts that you’ve presented.
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 31, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
That's fair
And I’m not trying to represent it as the only definitive move for the team. Like you and others have pointed out, there are too many other factors to consider to simply look at numbers and say “This is what Ottawa MUST do.”
i think a lot of the negative reaction is based on a mistaken perception that is what I’m saying.
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Just because you keep repeating it, doesn't make it a fact
The only fact is that historically, players similar to Spezza have seen their production decline. You showed that pretty well.
Whether it is in the best interest of the Sens to trade him for your likely return, that is just YOUR opinion, like everyone else’s. Your decision to assume 3 year return to playoffs as a fact is also incorrect, considering a top 5 selection isn’t the only thing a team has. There are other assets. In addition, if the average was 2.4, this means it is MORE likely to be a 2 year return.
This is the last I will say, as I will do my own analysis.
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by Adnan on May 31, 2011 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, he didn’t just assume a three-year window to return to the playoffs; that was also based on historical cases. The typical team takes 2-3 years to get back into the playoffs, and that says nothing of true Cup contention.
But I do look forward to your analysis!
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 31, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
What, exactly, am I repeating that's not supported by a factual argument?
It is my opinion that it’s in the best interests of the team to trade him, and I backed up that opinion with factual evidence. That doesn’t mean I’m presenting it as a definitive statement. I haven’t done so anywhere, and if you chose to get upset about it, you’re only getting angry about a misinterpretation.
Your decision to assume 3 year return to playoffs as a fact is also incorrect
No, it isn’t. All of the other teams in the 15-year sample had other assets besides their top-5 pick as well. That fact is inherently included in the analysis. The top-5 pick criteria was used as gauge to measure if a team was rebuilding, not their capacity to do so, like you’re arguing. The decision is only incorrect if you deliberately choose to misinterpret it, which you are.
In addition, if the average was 2.4
It wasn’t. It was 2.46. Don’t leave out numbers to modify the facts to suit your liking.
this means it is MORE likely to be a 2 year return
I addressed this in the article. The frequency of return times shades towards two, which is a positive sign (especially considering I think the team has more assets in place than a typical rebuilding team), but factually, the number is still greater than two. Since the NHL does not play fractional seasons, any number greater than two logically MUST be rounded up to three.
If we interpret the number, the best we can say is that if things go well, the team will likely be battling for a playoff spot in the third season of a rebuild, and should be a playoff team at the start of the next season.
And anyway, the rules of rounding tell us that 2.46 rounds up to 3.
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
You are misusing numbers
First of all, the rules of round do not round 2.46 to 3. Here is a refresher. Alternatively, type 2.46 into Excel and round edit it to 0 decimals.
Also, your data shows 24 times a team returns to the playoffs after 2 seasons or less, and 17 teams in 3 seasons or more. Again, showing more likely it is after 2 seasons than 3. You can’t round it up just because the seasons are whole numbers, because the data shows, MORE teams return after 2 seasons or less.
I also don’t know reliable such a single stat like that is, I doubt it has much statistical significance to be able to use it a forecast. The fact that we have a top 6 pick instead of top 5 might imply that we will be slightly later though, but who knows? I wouldn’t be totally shocked if it was even slightly better.
Another thing I question is the use of 0.7 points/game, it was his lowest total in his first full season. Every other season, he’s had 0.89 points/game or higher. Maybe using this would cause for an even bigger drop, I am not sure. But as is, I think you are lumping a lot of mediocre players with Spezza.
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This argument is going nowhere
You are each using different logic. Neither is inferior to the other, except in your own minds. Accept the fact that you are both convinced by your own logic, and not going to convince the other one, and we can move on from this debate.
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 31, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
I assume you’re referring to this:
“Determine what your rounding digit is and look to the right side of it. If that digit is 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 add one to the rounding digit and drop all digits to the right of it.”
We’re rounding to a whole number because that’s how NHL seasons are played. The average is 2.46. To round to a whole number, we use the tenths spot. Looking to the right, there’s a 6, so I add 1 to the tenths spot, giving 5, and dropping the 6. The number is now 2.5.
The next rule states: "If the digit is 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9, your rounding digit rounds up by one number. "
2.5 rounds up to 3. What am I missing?
Again, showing more likely it is after 2 seasons than 3. You can’t round it up just because the seasons are whole numbers, because the data shows, MORE teams return after 2 seasons or less.
This assumes that frequency affects average, which it does not. The average remains 2.46 seasons. The remaining fraction cannot be dismissed because of frequency of the statistics that created it — that’s not how numbers work. If I tell you an apple costs $2.46, you don’t give me $2 and say “the 46 cents don’t count because more apples cost $2” — you give me $3 and I make change. The same principle applies to NHL seasons. Teams play whole seasons, so the remainder of .46 carries over into the third season. It doesn’t just disappear because we’re dealing with whole numbers.
Is it a statistically significant forecast? No. Did I represent it as such? No. In fact, I specifically pointed out that data such as rule changes, player movement, and team assets was not included in the computation. It’s a very rough approximation for a generalized argument.
Another thing I question is the use of 0.7 points/game
Interesting. I thought I was giving Spezza the benefit of the doubt here (i.e. how does a player that performs no worse than X level look over a career?) I probably should have used his average PPG for his career, though I’d imagine you’d still see that same trend of decline post-27 — that seems to be universal across all talent levels. The list of players is not nearly as mediocre as you’d think — the criteria of hitting .7 or greater PP/G at least three times eliminates most of the scrubs and anomalies. The remaining group generally exceeded .7PP/G for most of their careers, until around the age of 34. I’d argue that because Spezza fits the trend so closely (minus the Heatley years) I’ve selected the peer group pretty accurately. Using a higher threshold will probably up his production, but I don’t know if it will actually alter the trend — I suspect not, but I’ll let you know when I get home tonight.
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Try reading the rules again
The round digit is the first digit to the left of the decimal point, since we are rounding to the nearest whole number.
“Rule One Determine what your rounding digit is and look to the right side of it. If that digit is 4, 3, 2, or 1, simply drop all digits to the right of it.
Rule Two Determine what your rounding digit is and look to the right side of it. If that digit is 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 add one to the rounding digit and drop all digits to the right of it."
The digit to the right of 2 is a 4, so Rule 1 applies, so it round to 2.
I am not sure what you are missing here…
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I'm missing that the round digit is the first to the left of the decimal point, I guess
It’s confounding to me that you’d simply ignore digits when rounding. I was taught that you simply start at the rightmost digit and round until you stop because the number is less than five. You’re right, though… Excel rounds it to two. This is an amazing revelation to me and you’re totally right.
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Hey Adnan
When do we get to make our final pick in the pool? Or have I missed the link somewhere?
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Oh yeah I forgot about that
I’ll have it up later tonight or tomorrow morning.
Also, thanks for picking up my stick, apparently they are closing that location now!
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Ya thats cause Murray is terrible
Cant believe they’re closing that location, wth Sens managment seriously WTH
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Somehow I feel like it's not the GM's call whether to close a retail store.
But maybe I just have no idea what GMs do. I can totally see how managing retail would be the biggest priority for BMur right now.
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I can just see them at the draft table
Tim: Bryan, we’re on the clock! What are you doing?
Bryan: Not now, man! Don’t you see how high our shrink is?! This can’t wait!
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haha it was a joke :p
I just like to blame everything on Murray
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According to Sparty's fb they're just relocating
I assume within the Rideau Centre since a bunch of stores have been moving around. It’ll probably be good since the old location was tiny and easy to miss.
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Hah, I just saw that on his twitter too now
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UPDATE: Tim Murray says it is up to Silfverberg on North America
Tim Murray was on the Team 1200, and according to The 6th Sens, that’s what he said.
Earlier Steve Lloyd from Team 1200 said Silfverberg was staying in Sweden.
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Expectations are too high
What’s happening with Silfverberg is typical of the kind of supreme expectations that we place on players. The guy hasn’t even set foot on North America and has not even played one game outside of the Swedish game, and already he’s on a line with Alfy.
Whoa guys!!! Let this guy breathe. Tim Murray was premature declaring that Silfverberg would start the season in the AHL and would probably be on the big team towards the end of the year.
The easiest path to upset is setting expectations too high. Unless they are elite talent, European players need time to develop.
Perhaps we need to do is market the AHL experience better so that draftees are chomping at the bit to come over, rather than staying in their comfort zone in their country playing half of the games in a much different style.
I don't think the fans have set the expectations for Silfverberg
It was Pierre Dorion, the director of pro personnel, who said about him:
“I can definitely see him playing (in Ottawa) next year. I don’t want to say that on Game 1, he’ll play for us, but I can guarantee you that, by the end of the year, Jakob Silfverberg will be an Ottawa Senator.”
When the team’s head scout thinks the player is NHL-ready, it’s not unreasonable for fans to expect him to be. In fact, I used this quote as the primary argument in debate with Crooklyn over Silfverberg. Now it looks like he was right and I was wrong. Sorry, Alex.
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“Jakob Silfverberg will be an Ottawa Senator”
That is a far cry from saying Silfverberg will be playing on a top line or will be producing for the team. Looking at this past season it would be accurate to apply that exact quote to a guy like Roman Wick. I don’t think anyone was making extravagant predictions about Wick heading into last season.
Yeah, he backed off the stronger statement he made the day before
This one was a lot more definitive:
With Jakob Silfverberg, we have an NHL player. Down the road we’ll be very comfortable with saying this guy will be a second- or third-line player or maybe even more."
That sounds like immediate NHL expectations and higher expectations beyond that.
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Expecting quick development doesn't work
I’ll expand on my views about why it’s highly premature to expect European players to quickly develop into NHL players. I coached hockey up to AA level for 11 years, and I watched quite alot of European hockey in the past few years, and it is a VASTLY different game.
The ice surface is bigger which allows for alot more as they say East / West play… alot of very safe passing into the outlying areas. So Euros have good passing skills, but at the same time there’s a culture of very safe play going on and not much risk taking. Then you add to that that there is not much body banging going on in Euro hockey and the result is that you have a different game. On top of all of that they play half the games so in general are not ready for the 82 game sched followed by the playoff grind.
The other large difference is that the NHL has alot more defencemen joining the rush (high risk stuff) unless the team is coached by Jacques Martin who punishes dmen caught up the ice.
So to expect even a good player like Silfverberg to waltz over here and play NHL hockey after part of a season is premature, even though Dorion says that he will be ready. I believe that a guy is ready when I see it.
Does he even want go thru the AHL grind with all the unknowns, versus the comfortable situation he is in now?
This is why the Sens have tons of prospects. They will all develop at their own pace… if they develop at all.
The problem with your argument is
that Silfverberg played on the WJC team last year and the WHC team this year. Granted he didn’t preform at a high level with Sweden at the WHC, but he didn’t get much ice time and was a plus player.
Your statement that the larger ice makes a big difference is very true, but that makes me feel like maybe he should adjust to that in the AHL rather than the NHL.The dude’s 21 years old. Obviously if he wants to get bigger and stronger it’s not going to be by doing what he’s been doing. I am 21 myself and I’m not expecting to get another growth spurt or magically add any weight (maybe a beer gut, but I don’t think that’s what Jakob had in mind). He needs to get his ass into the North American system of training all year round and another year in Sweden will not help that.
Why don't they want to develop in the AHL?
It would be interesting to investigate why so many Euros don’t want to go to the AHL to develop. Is it that they:
- Are money grabbing SOBs who want more money now
- Are afraid of the physical play and the unknown cultural change
- Think they are entitled to an automatic pass into the NHL
- Want the comforts of their homes, girlfriends / wives
- Suffer from the Ilya Zubov Syndrome and just have their heads in a dark place
don´t know about all Euros, but...
I know that a lot of Swedes share a common belief that the Swedish Elite Leauge is a better league than the AHL, from that point of wiew the step from the SEL to the AHL would be seen as a step down in the level of competition. And as an athlete you want to compete at the highest possible level, if you can´t reach the NHL, why give up the next best thing?
If it was about the money, there´s always the KHL.
I wouldn´t say that they are afraid of the physical play, but a couple of them dont like it either.
For a few of them, like in Silfverbergs case, loyalty has a lot to do with it. Jakobs SEL-team Brynäs, is kind of a family business. His father – nowdays a part of managment – and his uncle are legends in the club, younger cousin Joel is a rising star in the J18-team.
Jakob was a great talent and got a chance to play in the SEL at the age of 17, been there ever since and now he is a 1st-liner. Actually one of the top 1st-liners in the league. And for the first time in 12 years, Brynäs is puting together a team that gives Silfverberg a chance to get his inscription in the Le Mat Trophy (Swedish Championship cup) right beside his dad.
by SwedeTom on Jun 1, 2011 5:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is really insightful
Thanks for posting!
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While I am not a Swede
I also believe the Swedish League is a step up in competition from the AHL. You see players all the time in the World Championships from the SEL, but not so much from the AHL.
One reason is that the AHL is mostly North Americans, and Canadians obviously have tons of depth. But I am not sure that is the case for Americans.
Still though, while the AHL may be a step down, it might be more helpful towards an NHL career in terms of getting used to the smaller rink, etc.
But on the other hand, you could probably develop more skill in the SEL than the AHL, so I guess if Ottawa is okay with him staying, it is fine.
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Also he's ranked as our #4 prospect on HF
Not that it means anything, but that kind of comes with expectations.
I see the Sens have taken the name "Senate Reform" for the Draft picks this year.
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I saw that. Awesome.
Although to be honest, I’m still not sure who actually came up with it. I think it was someone ’round these parts…
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 31, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it was Mr. Parisi himself, l'Artiste!
http://www.silversevensens.com/2011/2/11/1986686/analyzing-the-mike-fisher-trade#58979214
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by Peter Raaymakers on May 31, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure it was you and I was just repeating it publicly
I’m not creative when it comes to nicknames or headlines. My skills lie elsewhere.
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by Mark Parisi on May 31, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
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