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Five players who must step up - revisited


Prior to the start of the season, I published a list of five players who I felt had to raise their game if the Ottawa Senators were going to make the playoffs for the year. This list was not intended to question their ability to do so, but merely point out my belief that the team's fortunes were especially tied to theirs. Since the Senators did not make the playoffs, I thought it would be interesting to take a look back at those five players and see if they did, in fact, step up.

Star-divide

Player: Sergei Gonchar

The loss of Anton Volchenkov of course means the team has lost a significant physical presence in the defensive zone, and the expectation is that Gonchar will offset that loss by moving the puck up the ice quickly.  Ottawa is not a team that has the speed they once had at the forward position, though they are still a fast team.  Will Clouston make adjustments to allow Gonchar to try to take advantage of that speed?  If Gonchar cannot, his power play contributions won't matter -- Ottawa will be too busy chasing the puck in their own zone to draw any penalties.

Summary:

Gonchar put up 27 points in 67 games for the Senators this year. His .4 points per game represents the lowest average of his career since his 1997-98 season with the Washington Capitals, where he managed just 16 points in 79 games -- a paltry .29 points per game. 20 (5G, 15A) of Gonchar's 27 points came via the power play, so it seems he can still be effective there still.

Gonchar did provide some boost to the power play, as the Senators' 17.5% was good for 15th in the league. This represented a gain of .6% from last year's 16.9%, which was good for 21st in the league.

As mentioned, my primary concern was that Gonchar would not be able to help lead an effective breakout, thus causing Ottawa to draw fewer penalties. The Senators finished 29th in total power play opportunities, with 257 total. The fault for this paltry number does not lie with Gonchar alone, but we can safely say he was not able to help the team draw more penalties.

Conclusion:

Sergei Gonchar's below-average season had an impact in Ottawa's failures as a team.

 

Player: Mike Fisher

The pressure is on Fisher to not only provide the same scoring touch he showed last year, but also to drive the team's secondary scoring,  That scoring can't come from just his line -- he'll be expected to lead the team's second power play unit as well.  If Fisher can lead, every other line will benefit from the production.  If he cannot, the other lines simply don't have the firepower to make up the difference.

Summary:

Of course, he was traded in February, so we can only judge his statistics up to that point. Fisher's 53 points in 79 games last year were good for an average of .67 points per game. His 24 points in 55 games this season represented a drop to .44 points per game. Fisher only recorded three power play goals and six power play assists in that same timeframe. Though he battled an upper-body injury for much of the year, that cannot be used as an excuse. If Fisher wasn't healthy enough to be a major contributor on the ice, he shouldn't have been on the ice.

The concern was that a lack of secondary scoring from Fisher's line would create a domino effect the rest of the team could not overcome. Linemate Alex Kovalev's points per game production dropped slightly, though not as much as Fisher's. However, the team just barely avoided setting a record for fewest goals scored in a season. Their 190 total was 29th in the league.

Conclusion:

Fisher's below-average season had a significant impact in Ottawa's failures this year.

 

Player: Pascal Leclaire

If Leclaire can provide that consistency, the team will reward him for it in more ways than one. If he cannot, the Senators will only go as far as Brian Elliott can take them, and we've already seen how far that is.

Summary:

Leclaire played in just 14 games for the Senators this season, starting 13 of them, and earning a decision in just 11. In those 14 games, he had a GAA of 2.83 and a save percentage of .908. Those numbers, while not spectacular, are not terrible, either.

The concern was that Leclaire would not be able to provide consistent goaltending, whether because of health or mental focus. Because of Leclaire's inability to stay consistently healthy, the team was, in fact, forced to turn to their backup, Brian Elliott. In 43 games, Elliott posted a GAA of 3.19 and a save percentage of .891. There isn't much more to say.

Conclusion:

Pascal's Leclaire's below-average season had a major impact in Ottawa's failures this year.

 

Player: Milan Michalek

His speed will open up lanes for his linemates.  His play on the penalty kill will be critical because not only is he responsible defensively, he will help keep Alfredsson's legs fresh, and deserves respect as a breakaway threat.  If Michalek can contribute in all three zones, it will not only reduce the burden of the team's defensemen, it will be the catalyst for the up-ice attack.  If he cannot, the team could spend all year looking for a spark that may never come.

Summary:

Michalek only appeared in 66 games this year, recording 33 points. He looked slow at the start of the year, and did not regain his speed until around halfway through the season. He was finally finding his game when he suffered a broken foot late in the year, though he returned from that injury more quickly than expected -- and recorded four points (2G, 2A) in the final eight games of the season.

The concern was whether Michalek could use his speed to create open ice for his linemates. He was not able to create that space early in the year, but was much more successful over the his final stretch of the season, and the team went 4-3-1 in those games.

Conclusion:

Michalek's slightly below-average season had some impact in Ottawa's failures this year.

 

Player: Erik Karlsson

But Karlsson's offensive contributions cannot be the only source of growth -- he must improve his defensive game as well.  If Karlsson can avoid a sophomore slump, the team should be able to exploit some player matchups for their benefit.  If he cannot, too much burden will fall on the shoulders of the aging Gonchar.

Summary:

Karlsson's 45 points were good enough to make him second on the team in scoring, and his offensive skill made him Ottawa's lone representative at the All-Star game, where he was the last defenseman picked. His minus-30 rating was only beaten by Chris Phillips's minus-35.

The concern was that Karlsson's play would regress in his second year, but that did not happen. Improvements to his defensive game were not particularly noticeable, but it should be noted that he was plus-1 for the month of March before finishing the year on injured reserve with a thigh laceration that required 25 stitches to close. This positive plus/minus rating coincided with the most responsibility given in his young career, including penalty killing duties and significant TOI.

Conclusion:

Karlsson's slightly above-average season had little impact in preventing Ottawa's failures this year.

 

So, there you have it. While the team's abysmal season cannot be laid at the feet of these five players, it is interesting to note that four of the five had below-average performances. Of course, this is true for much of the team. At this point, I'm at a loss to say whether the losing caused everyone to decline or whether everyone's decline caused the losing. I can only restate my belief that outstanding play from any one of these individuals could have been the life preserver that salvaged the season.

What do you think? Were Ottawa's failures this season caused by a domino effect of a few players or the result of an entire team underachieving?

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Excellent look Mark

I think it was a collection of things going wrong, bad goaltending, Alfredsson and Phillips regressing, Gonchar not producing offensively, Kuba doing very little, Fisher not being replicate last year, Spezza struggling early in the season and then injured, almost every impact player had problems with either form or injury.

I realise it is early, but what would you say are the players who must improve next year?

I would list Alfredsson, Phillips, Gonchar, Spezza (mostly staying healthy) and Anderson.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Improvements?

Phillips and Gonchar as veteran leaders
Spezza and Karlsson as youth leaders (K less so, but he has to play how he has this year)
Then if Greening, Butler and Lee can keep playing solidly, it’ll make a world of difference.

And Anderson. If he can be the #1 we’ve always needed, that’ll be amazing.

by The Tif on Apr 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I hope Alfie does a lot better too

I love him as much as the next guy, but even before the injury, he wasn’t having a good season. Sadly, age is catching up with him. But he seems determined to come back strong.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think Andy needs to improve next year?

I’d be thrilled if he maintains his level of performance.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I meant based on his whole year, including Colorado

But yeah, I’d be thrilled if he repeats this. Actually, I’d be thrilled even if he falls to around a 2.50 GAA.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really, I don't think that there are many players who could be spared from the "must improve" label

Just about everyone underachieved for large stretches of this season. Even guys who had more success, like Karlsson and Butler, have clear areas of their game where we’d like them to be better, you know?

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well as Jon Stewart would say

It was a cluster!@#$ of a season.

But, I mean Chris Neil or Zack Smith or Erik Condra improving won’t have the same impact as Daniel Alfredsson improving.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

For sure.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gonchar

“Sergei Gonchar’s below-average season had an impact in Ottawa’s failures as a team.”

I think it could be argued that G didn’t have the right team with which to excel. Slow overall team speed, esp at forward, and inconsistent play from centers, who are key to break out systems would hamper any aging d man who doesn’t have Karlsson’s wheels. Same could apply to Phillips’ poor play in his own end.

When Ottawa had the best breakout team in the league, they had high skill and speed up front and a disciplined structure to their team play in their own end. In a team that sounds like that, I don’t think G’s numbers would have been so low.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

There's no doubt that the team around him contributed

I mean, our D was horrible for a while and Gonchar needs someone solid to cover him while he’s trying to score points. But regardless of Gonchar’s point production, I’m just happy to give Karlsson the chance to learn from him.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's a very fair argument

Given the team’s lack of talent, I think a big part of Gonchar’s stumbles was Clouston not putting him in situations that maximized his skills.

Still, at the end of the day, we’re paying him to be skilled. I think the fact that he wasn’t able to lead the breakout — regardless of how much blame there is to spread around — had an impact on the season.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Expectations vs Reality

I guess my question is based on what we should have expected vs what was reasonable to expect. I have wondered about BM’s pro scouting abilities/biases and why it is he has blind spots to fitting other pro players with our pro players when he, above everyone else, is supposed to know what we have and how to complement what we have.

Did he assess our team and not see the diminished speed and skill? Did he not consider the obvious impact that would have on G’s ability to perform in the way he was expected? It seems so. I think we tinkered and stopgapped for so long that he still had the core players in a 2007 replay mode and just didn’t see them getting older and slower.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of have an issue with this post

I agree with the analysis, but almost everyone underperformed this year for various reasons. If you’d asked in September, I don’ t think anyone would have said we’d finish in the draft lottery and with only one 20-goal scorer. With the exception of a few guys who’ve surpassed (at least my) expectations – Karlsson, Winchester, Shannon – I’d say everyone on the team underperformed.

I see where you were coming from Mark, but I just think the conclusions in here were pretty obvious. None of the guys in here (with the exception of Snoopy) stand out for me as the biggest disappointments of the season (see: Filip Kuba) and the conclusions that four of them contributed to the crappy season falls short of the informative analysis I usually look for on here.

Therefore: please reply and teach me something (hockey related or not) that I don’t already know.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Rose Coloured Glasses

Whatever the fans of Ottawa expected, most outside observers picked us to finish out of the running. And Ottawa fans were incensed.

Overall, we underestimated how much team speed we had lost and overestimated the health and ability of some of our key players.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

This article wasn't about biggest disappointments

It was looking at if the players I thought needed to step up did so or not and if that had an impact on how the season went.

If you didn’t care for the article, there’s not really a need to leave an unproductive comment saying so. You’re free to hit the back button and read our other content. if you didn’t agree with the content, you’re welcome to write your own counterpoint. We encourage all of our readers to contribute to the site. The FanPost link is on your right sidebar.

How’s that?

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I really wasn't trying to piss you off

I know what you were going for and it’s usually really interesting to see follow-up on earlier posts, I just thought that this one fell a bit flat. There’s no need to take it personally – I just hold this site up to a high standard because the content usually provides insight that I hadn’t thought of.

I have to say, the response that my comments aren’t welcome comes as a shock to me. I tried to word my comment politely and rationally, and as constructively as possible. To build on that and offer some more constructive criticism, I think the analysis could have gone deeper. Instead of just telling us that the players didn’t live up to expectations, maybe you could have hypothesized why or what to work on in the future (for those still on the roster, anyway), or offered some opinion about whether they’re still in a position to step it up next season and be a key player (again, for those still on the roster). You know, the kind of discussion that’s starting to show up in the comments.

But your reply left me with a really bad taste in my mouth. One of my favourite things about this site has been the fact that I’ve been able to get into debates with people without anyone taking it too personally and getting pissed off. A thinly veiled “well if you don’t like it, don’t read it and go write your own blog if you’re so smart” is not the level of civility and acceptance of dissenting opinions that I’ve come to expect here.

PS – the teach me something comment was a joke intended to lighten the mood. All I was looking for was something like “the secret to a perfect high five is to both watch the other person’s elbow”.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to speak for Mark

But I will anyway. I don’t think he took it personally. He was actually encouraging your opinion by inviting you to write a fan post (on this blog) and wasn’t implying you should start your own blog.

Me and Mark often disagree, but I don’t think he ever takes it personally.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he doesn't and that's why I was so surprised by that comment

But regardless of whether it was meant to or not, it came off (to me) as kind of a hostile reply to my comment. As for writing a fan post, maybe someday but I don’t want to post anything unless I think my insight will meet that high standard I’ve come to expect from the content on here.

But I intended my original comment to be a compliment about the quality of the posts that I usually see on here, which I find better than some of the other Sens blogs.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your comment came off a little hostile too

While you’ve since clarified the meaning, the “teach me” comment certainly (to me) came across as bearing hostility on the initial reading.

by B_T on Apr 12, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're good

Thanks, Adnan

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah the internet and its huge potential to cause issues :S

I shall pepper my posts with emoticons in the future so as to make my tone more clear :D

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fisher

“Fisher’s below-average season had a significant impact in Ottawa’s failures this year.”

Or we have just been placing way too much value on him as a producer. I have never felt he warranted that expectation. Heart and soul? Yes. Tough, hard working? Yes. But as a producer, he is who his stats say he is and no more. We kept holding out for a potential he never cashed in on. His last season with us he was a step slower, surrounded by slower, less talented players than he has been playing with in the past.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Well he did score 25 goals last year

It was a career year, but we (or at least I) were hoping for a repeat.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Barely a career year, and only for totals

From a points-per-game perspective, 06-07 was his career high with a .706 rate in the regular season.

He did post is best ever playoff performance last season, though.

by B_T on Apr 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

We very well may have been placing too much value on him as a producer

But I think that’s kind of the point. We succeeded last year in part because he hit career highs. He needed to repeat that role if the team was going to repeat its success. It’s possible he wasn’t talented enough for that role (though I don’t personally think that’s the case) but either way, I felt that much of the team’s scoring success hinged on his performance there.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the expectations for Fisher were a bit unrealistic

Sure he was coming off a career year, but I think that career season was a bit of a fluke. That said, I think he may develop into a better player with the Predators. The issue here was that he was never really a solid second-liner, but on a team like Nashville I think there’s room for him to really grab that spot and hopefully develop there.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fisher is the kind of guy who can lead the team off the ice

But not on it. He’s a great character guy, and in Nashville has the cap space to afford his salary and presence. We couldn’t.

by The Tif on Apr 12, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if we needed him to lead on the ice

It’s not like we needed 40 goals from him (I mean, in hindsight, we totally did) but he needed to drive point production like he did last year, and he wasn’t able to do that.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

His production was only somewhat below average this year

.436 points per game while in Ottawa this season, .516 career in Ottawa for the regular season, .501 when you include the playoffs.

So yeah, I’d agree that production expectations were a little high and based on the 09-10 season.

by B_T on Apr 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

9MM

“Michalek’s slightly below-average season had some impact in Ottawa’s failures this year.”

No question Ottawa needs him healthy and firing from a full mag. I’m betting he gets out in front fo expectations next year on a faster, more enthusiastic team and benefits from a return to better overall health.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd bet that too

A healthy offseason should be make a big difference in how he starts next year.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Karlsson

“Karlsson’s slightly above-average season had little impact in preventing Ottawa’s failures this year.”

Love this guy. His forays with the puck, his fluid powerful skating, his enthusiasm, his awkward english. I’m blushing from this man crush talk, but it’s like Adnan’s reaction to Havlat’s early seaons.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Havlat and Karlsson

I really love those type of players! Even if they are different positions, they have a lot of similarities. Hockey is after all, meant to be entertainment, and those kind of guys provide a show.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too young for that :p

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

YouTube

I tried a few clips, but none really give me that iconic image I have of him taking his first few strides, puck on his stick, one hand on the stick and suddenly flying up the wing.

Not a Habs fan, ever, but he could be electric.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guy Lafleur announced his retirement on the day I was born!

Then reneged on it, but I still have a signed Guy Lafleur poster somewhere at my parents’ house as a result.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally, Leclaire

“Pascal’s Leclaire’s below-average season had a major impact in Ottawa’s failures this year.”

Just like you can’t plan perfectly for a nuclear reactor being hit by a 9 earthquake, how do you anticipate a goalie made of glass? What a disaster for him and for the team.

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Rec'd

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad start

I think you could say all the troubles this year began in the very first third of the season. Scoring was non-existent. Foligno didn’t have a goal until the 25th game, Michalek 5 goals in his first 26 games, Spezza 6 goals in his first 24 games, Kelly 3 goals in 27 games, Alfie 8 goals in 31 games and then there’s Regin – 3 goals in 55 games this year. If you average that out, it equates to 11 goals each over the course of a season which is simply too low unless they were the bottom six of our forwards. Never mind that Kovalev had 8 goals in 42 games. So we couldn’t score through the first third and had Elliott standing short between the pipes. Clouston also made mistake after mistake. There was one shift that stands out in my mind. Kovalev had a goal and assist in the first period but then turned into the worst player on either team and was giving the puck away for the second and third (and I think he took a really bad penalty sometime in the second). We were tied with about two minutes left in the game and although Winchester, Foligno, Shannon and Kelly were having great games he put Kovalev on the ice on a PK. He promptly coughed up the puck trying to go through three guys and they scored. I screamed at the television and Clouston specifically and turned off the game. I for one am glad both of them are gone and Elliott too. So based on all of this, I’d say you can’t attribute this season to just four or five players. Across the board, we were terrible…but especially Elliott, he is not an NHL caliber goaltender.

by JeffreyLebowski on Apr 12, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not saying this season is the fault of these five players

Just looking at whether their play might have had a bigger impact in their teammates performances as I hypothesized it would.

This lost season runs far deeper than just these players.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

Absolutely mark, I was responding to your question at the bottom of your article about whether it was a domino effect or overall underachieving. My vote is overall underachieving (including coach). I think too that if those players you mentioned had just “good” or average seasons, except Karlsson who did, we might likely be discussing “so are we going to get out of the first round?”

by JeffreyLebowski on Apr 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too many expectation errors

Nice article, Mark thanks. For sure we needed some stepping up and that did not happen, except for Karlsson and some of the youngsters added after the purge.

I suggest that the biggest error made was in the area of expectations. We expected that Regin would be a top six guy after a handful of good playoff games. We expected Gonchar at his age after working with one of the best trio of centers in the NHL to come in and lead us to the promised land, and we expected Fisher after one good year to finally be the second line center we wanted. We also expected Foligno to be a goal scorer after a few good games and a highlight reel goal last year. And we expected Phillips to anchor our defence without Volchenkov. We expected Alfy to go on and on leading the scoring at his advanced age. IMO, there was alot of dreaming going on as to who was going to score all the goals.

Even if a team wins the cup, unless they add something positive to the roster, the law of Entropy takes over. Simply put, if you do nothing, any system will just peter out or entropy it’s way out.

In the end outside of goaltending issues, we gave up the heart of our offence for a damaged part time forward, and no one could fill those shoes. And we counted on an unproven goalie who was made of glass.

So it’s enough already; it’s time to move on with what we have and add to it intelligently. And it’s very important to find a coach who can get along with the leaders and inspire the young guns to great heights. There are no candidates tat stand out, so good luck with that one.

by Marvellous on Apr 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I like how you came back to this article Mark!

And although you even pointed out that the 4 underperformers on this list were not the only ones, it still interesting to see if in fact what you noted in September really did have an effect.

Apart from the obvious things that contributed to the bad season, one of the big ones is this hole we have on Sepzza’s line. We really need someone to burry his passes. There were some games where our shots on goal were abismal. I am all for signing or trading for a forward (a young guy we see contributing for a few years) . I want to encourage Spezza’s continuous improvement. I want Spezza to take this team and run with it.

Kuba underperformed but I did NOT expect him to be otherwise. I have been wanting to get rid of this guy for over 2 years now.

Our defence lacked, Phillips and Alfie’s downhill, Spezza’s injury was huge, the goalie fiasco, Clouston, all contributed to this bad season.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Apr 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep, clearly going to be Giggles' team

He seems to have some chemistry with Butler, I think Butler can pot 25 goals. Maybe 30 in a career. But he is more ideally suited to second line, we still do need an elite sniper for Giggles. Hopefully our first rounder can be that.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I remember at the time you wrote this initial article, I argued that Spezza would have more of an impact that Milan

and at the time you agreed and said you were going for guys that were less obvious, but no denying that when spezza got hurt, the season was lost, which is interesting.

Love that you came back to this, and love it even more that you were so right the first time around.

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by DaveYoung on Apr 12, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I think in hindsight I would have picked Spezza as my fifth guy, and not Michalek

I had him as my sixth, but I definitely underestimated his impact to the team. I was anticipating a more balanced top-six, but it’s clear now that our offense is going to flow through him for the foreseeable future.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the time, this was my five (that you asked me for)

Hmmm…
Well I fully agree on Leclaire, and Gonchar and Fisher.

I would put in Spezza into my list, because while the Sens didnt lose EVERY game without him, they didn’t do exceptionally well without him, and without him going on that hot streak coming back from injury, I dont think the Sens finish 5th last year.

I also think Phillips is integral this year. His calming influence over a very skittish blueline is going to be very important, and really, can you imagine our d-pairings if Phillips got hurt? can you imagine our penalty kill? yes Michalek is important, but there are other forwards who can play the PK just as well. The same cannot be said for Phillips.

which I think is very funny, to go back and read those. we are so smart.

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by DaveYoung on Apr 12, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love (hate?) how we almost did lose EVERY game without him

What was it? 1 win in 15 games during that injury?

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure!

this was just my comment on the original article, so I was referencing his injury LAST year in this comment.

but yes, this year we lost like every one of them without him.

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by DaveYoung on Apr 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

I don’t know how smart you have to be to say a team’s top goalie and top center will have a major impact on a team’s success!

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillips

How do Phillips’ stats look in front of Anderson compared to the rest of the year?

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you just mean plus/minus

He’s -9 in 24 games since the Anderson trade. Average of -0.375/game. Some of those were with McElhinney though.

He’s -26 in the 58 games before the trade. Average of -0.448/game.

So it has gotten better.

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard to say how much of a role Andy played in it, though

The whole team kind of perked up around that time (fresh blood), and Philly settled into a nice groove with Lee, oddly enough.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah and the trade also more or less coincided with Giggles' come back

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by Adnan on Apr 12, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

So many things happened around the same time that I’m hesitant to connect Philly’s rebound to one in particular.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "Andy Era"

I used Anderson’s arrival because it marked a real change overall in the team’s feel. He was a part of it, but it was also after most of the big trades, wasn’t it? The call ups also started to feel like they belonged and played looser and more confidently.

Lots of little things, but his arrival seemed to be the point when the good things came together.

by Be_rad on Apr 12, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it all kind of coincides

Although so much happened in that one-week-span in February.

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by AlfieGirl on Apr 12, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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