Senators for Sale: Filip Kuba
Contract Status
Cap hit of $3.7M through next season (no-trade clause has expired).
Pros
An experienced defender who, until this season, was a fairly consistent point-producer. He's got good size, even if he rarely uses it, and has in the past been a good puck-moving defenceman. Although he's 34 years old, he's just two years removed from a career-high 40-point season.
Cons
Since that 40-point season in 2008-09, Kuba's decline has been disastrous. He's struggled with injuries and after off-season knee surgery has not come remotely close to getting his groove back. Has seemed slow, is often out of position, never plays physically, has only four points in 35 games this season, and has been a healthy scratch for several games over the last couple of months. And although he's playing like a 6-7 defender, he's paid like a 2-3 blueliner for this and next season.
Trade Value
Nil. Some team, with the right situation surrounding him and insulating him with the right defence partner, may be willing to take a flyer on him, but it seems unlikely anyone would be interested in picking him up even for a late-round draft pick. As tempting as his production looks, teams will likely be scared away by the contract.
Trade Likelihood
Nil. I can't think of a single team that would benefit from his presence, at least not if he doesn't improve significantly leading up to the deadline. He's actually got decent post-season statistics (4G, 9A in 24GP), the player I've seen since he arrived in Ottawa is nothing remotely resembling a playoff performer. He's had such an abysmal season this year that, barring even the slightest interest from another team, I could see Kuba being a potential buyout candidate in the off-season.
Realistic Return
Given that his value is so microscopic, it's hard to gauge a realistic return. About a year ago Niclas Wallin was packaged up with a fifth-round pick in exchange for a second-rounder, which would be an incredible steal for the Senators to get--Wallin's much better defensively and physically, but Kuba's a more offensive defender. Andrew Alberts was cheaper and more physical, but he was dealt last season for a third-round pick. And Matt Hunwick was recently traded for low-level defensive prospect Colby Cohen. Seems like if someone's going to pick up Kuba, the high range might be a mid- to low-round draft pick (maybe a bit higher if the Sens throw in a late-round pick themselves) or a low-potential prospect.
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"For sale" is misleading
As we’re happy to give him away for free.
by TheGuineaPig on Feb 7, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Hahaha... rec'd
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 7, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Kuba is the #1 player
on my shit list this season, from the start. When Ottawa signed him a few years ago, I was like ‘Okay, he’s a solid Dman’. But my goodness, you are right, what a disgusting season and the sad story is, we have him for another year!!! That’s even more sickening!
No one is gonna pick him up :(
I wonder if the Islanders might pick him up
They are only above the cap floor because of the Yashin buyout. They have only 30 million committed for next year with 14 players signed. If the cap goes up to around $62 million, the floor will be 62-16 = $46 million
So the Isles need to expand another 15-16 million on 8-9 players.
Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.
If they want to replicate Ottawa's tanking strategy
They would acquire Kuba now.
I honestly think the only way to rid the team of Kuba is to pick up another team’s ~$3.5M problem for this season and receive nothing of value in return. There’s just no reason for a team to give up anything of value for him.
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I think Melnyk would be happy to pick up another team’s $5M problem for this season if they take on Kuba; aka our $3.7M problem for this season and next. The price difference would be much cheaper than buying Kuba out, and with the other blueliners coming up for Ottawa, I don’t think the team has any interest in bringing Kuba back for next season.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 7, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
They're always waivers
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by Alexander Calloway on Feb 7, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
That assumes someone wants him, though
If no one does, we’re stuck with him—whether he’s in the AHL or the NHL. If he’s picked up on re-entry waivers, that cuts the price tag for him in half, but it’s still money out the door that I’m sure Melnyk would rather not give away to a player playing for another team.
My one hope for Kuba is that he’s still working on getting back into game shape after his post-season surgery, and his broken leg. It’s a longshot, but maybe after another off-season of training, he can get back to 30-40 point form and stop being a defensive liability for the team. If he can, we’ll get good value for him next season, at the very least.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 7, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
i frankly see that as our best case scenario
what’s the point in exchanging $3-5M head-aches. We’ve got the frigging wardrobe on that one and it’s not helped us. I look at it this way, for argument’s sake, everyone has sucked this year and Kuba has the qualifiers that Peter mentions. Kuba has been a serviceable and productive player with the Sens before. I would rather take the risk with that right now.
Please don’t mistake any of this with Kuba-love though.
Trading headaches
Change of scenery can help both teams in a trade (think Wolski for Mueller last year). I know it’s less than likely to work out, but what’s the harm if the contracts $ and duration are similar ($3.7M until 11/12)?
Here’s a list of guys that have similar contracts (all end in 11/12) and seem to be underachieving ( I’m not sure if their teams are looking for defense):
Sheldon Souray ($5.4M)
Simon Gagne ($5.25)
Brian Rolston ($5M)
Jason Blake ($4M)
Jochen Hecht ($3.5M)
Jeff Finger ($3.5M)
Olli Jokinen ($3M)
I’m with Peter and west-sider, the Sens are more likely to get something next year,. It would amaze me if someone offered anything for this year. He is the first guy that I would love to unload, but I don’t see how it can happen. Too bad.
From that list, I wouldn’t mind adding Hecht if he can still skate like he used to. What is going wrong for him this year?
Sabres suck
Hecht came up as a guy who had low points-per-dollar when I was putting that list together. Turns out he’s Buffalo’s 1st line Center! Wow can’t believe they aren’t worse than Ottawa. Guess that’s what Miller does for ya.
Lets trade him to Boston for Savard. I’d prefer to pay him to be injured than to have Kuba around for another year.
Not sure if you are joking but
Savard is signed for six more seasons.
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I don’t think it will ever happen, but I would love to see it. Ottawa theoretically has the money freed up for a player like him going forward given how much money is coming off the books next year. And if he’s done because of concussions he’s under 35 so his contract wouldn’t be guaranteed if he retired early. His cap hit is just over $4 mil. We have paid Kovalev $5 mil a season to float around the ice and occupy a roster spot for 2 years, so really I can’t see how Savard could possibly be any worse.
Savard has stated he wanted to be traded to either Ottawa or Toronto. Kuba has been a liability for the Sens, but Boston also has a much stronger supporting cast and could very well allow him to get back to his game. He’s a good assists guy and was pretty serviceable the previous 2 seasons here.
There is a some logic to your suggestions, but personally I wouldn’t want it to happen. It breaks my heart to say it, but I think Savard should retire. I can’t imagine watching him in a Sens uniform. Every time he stepped on the ice I would be holding my breath in case this was the shift where someone ended his career with yet another concussion.
If I could buy out his contract myself, I would in a heartbeat.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Feb 7, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions
Wouldn't you rather spend $1.85 million on weekly flights to Madrid forever?
Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.
I am assuming if I could buy out his contract than I would also be able to fly to Madrid whenever I want.
But seriously, this Kuba thing has pissed me off for over 2 years now.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Feb 8, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Says who?
Seriously… anyone reputable?
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by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 7, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions

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