Silver Nuggets: Third period collapses becoming common in December
by Adnan on Dec 9, 2011 1:01 PM EST
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The Ottawa Senators have played five games in December and lost four of them. What's more alarming is that in three of the four losses, the Senators were leading in the third period. Let's look at the three collapses.
Exhibit one, 1 December: Leading Dallas 2-1 with less than six minutes left.
It was a 1-1 game heading into the third period and after Milan Michalek had put them ahead 2-1 at the 11:42 mark, the Senators seemed on their way to a win. Ottawa ended up allowed the tying goal with 5:34 left and the winning goal with 2:20 left.
Result: 0 points.
Exhibit two, 7 December: Leading Washington 2-1 with just over 10 minutes left.
Nicklas Backstrom ties it at the 9:45 mark, Alexander Ovechkin puts them ahead at 13:50, Troy Brouwer makes it 4-2 at 14:05. The game ends in a 5-3 loss.
Result: 0 points.
Exhibit three, 8 December: Leading New Jersey 3-1 after two periods.
At 2:59, Dainius Zubrus makes it a 3-2 game. Two goals at 9:08 and 9:45 shockingly put New Jersey ahead. Ottawa ends up tying the game with five seconds left but loses in a shootout.
Result: 1 points.
In the other two games, Ottawa entered the third period tied 1-1. In both games they fell behind 2-1. Against Tampa Bay they came back to win 4-2 and against Washington they took it to overtime before losing. Still, while the Senators have had some thrilling comebacks, they are starting to pile up some shattering losses as well. It might be expected on a team with such a young defence, but it doesn't make it any less painful to watch.
General Sens News
- Recap from last night's cluster!@#$. Reader discretion is advised. (Silver Seven, Ottawa Sun, Senators Extra)
- Bruce Garrioch feels Alexander Ovechkin should have been suspended. He was also surprised Nikita Filatov didn't play last night and that Paul MacLean didn't even consider it. (Ottawa Sun)
- With Daniel Alfredsson approaching his 39th birthday and still in the top three in voting for all-star forwards, he admits playing at the all-star game at his home rink would be huge. (Ottawa Senators)
- Look at that guy leading the NHL in goals all by himself. And that other guy tied for the lead in the assists. (NHL)
- The schedule for the All-Star weekend has been announced. There will be a procession of various NHL trophies including the Stanely Cup on Thursday, 26 January at 2:30 followed by a fan fair at 3:00. The all-star draft will be also on Thursday night at 8:00 p.m. There will be another fan fair on Friday and Saturday. Saturday will also have the skills competition at 7 p.m. The game itself will be 4 p.m. on Sunday. (Ottawa Senators)
- With the sale of the Maple Leafs to Rogers and Bell for a whopping $1.3 billion, here are some hilarious tweets about the sale. Even a tweet by yours truly made it. My favourite though was someone else saying: "So if a #Leafs player wants to be traded to another team will he have to first talk to the "retention" dept. before leaving?" With Bell's pension plan owning part of the club, the blog name should stay the same. (Pension Plan Puppets)
- Should players be suspended for embellishment? (Yahoo!)
- The latest chapter in the Tampa Bay Lightning's saga of hurt feelings was when Rangers forward Artem Anisimov scored a goal and celebrated by grabbing his stick like a rifle and pointed it at the Tampa Bay goal. I thought it was hilarious. The Lightning did not. Vincent Lecavalier rushed at him, Steve Downie jumped off the bench to come at Anisimov and if I recall correctly, Steven Stamkos sucker punched him. This is the same team that cried about Ovechkin's "hot stick" and Linus Omark's 360 spin in the shootout. (Yahoo!)
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On the MLSE sale
Expect a lot of players being signed to 3 year contracts from now on.
I believe this also means that Rogers has a financial stake in every single pro team in the GTA (though only via stadium ownership for the Argos).
3 year contracts, and if they request a trade, they have to pay 30% of their annual salary for the remainder of the contract or $50k/month, whichever is greater.
Only if you convince your best friend to sign a contract too.
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I can't wait for the inevitable DGB article on this
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Someone here should just write one
Someone funnier than I.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 12, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Bell owns both Leafs and Habs as of right now
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I think Bell owns a minority of the Habs
If I’m not mistaken, it’s 10% or something.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 12, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
And I guess technically speaking, CFL is “pro”.
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Zing! (canned laughter)
Hey-oh! A CFL joke. Never heard one of those before ;)
by Pmoron on Dec 9, 2011 6:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
This made me laugh!
Best tweet I saw – Made me laugh outloud in my quiet office:
“Goddammit Habs do SOMETHING!” – Habs fans at 11:35am. “OH F*CK NOT THAT!” Habs fans at 11:40am
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
by havey03 on Dec 9, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just baffling
How do they look at Kaberle and go, “THAT’S what we need to fix this!”
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They have now $17,357,143 in cap hits for the next two years after this season to…Gomez, Markov and Kaberle.
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Not sure if it is true
But I also heard that Campoli is close to returning from injury… which makes this move make even less sense.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Montreal also traded for Gomez and Gionta with their huge contracts
and small contribution on the ice. Gauthier was good here with a small budget, but with a bigger purse, not so good.
A procession of NHL trophies... including Campbell & Prince of Wales?
If they decide to add two new trophies for next year’s conference champions, this would be a good time to unveil them. Regardless, hopefully we’ll get some clarity on what will become of the old ones.
Yes, I have latched on to this issue.
All out offence
Adnan, you said you’d rather ride this year out with this defence and give the new guys loads of ice time, and having great difficulty being able to protect a lead is a consequence of that. We seem to be more comfortable coming from behind, necessitating playing all out offence. And we REALLY miss Kuba right now.
With the two top players (Spezza and Karlsson) being all out offence, albeit that Karlsson is improving defensively, this is a natural consequence that we keep playing with the same reckless abandon even when we are ahead. It doesn’t seem to be in the nature of this team to play safe when we are ahead by two goals in the third period.
Hopefully as we develop, we will learn to be able to switch to a shutdown style, because all good teams can do that.
This team really misses Chris Kelly who was one of the best guys around for protecting a lead.
I am not sure how a shutdown defenceman or a Chris Kelly would have helped with not allowing 2 shorthanded goals that turned it all around.
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My favourite one I heard over at SensChirp's twitter page:
Hang on a minute, I thought the Boston Bruins owned the Maple Leafs?
I’ve taken the liberty of sharing it at PPP…they’re a grumpy bunch, arent they? lol
I actually find PPP people to be mostly hilarious and witty.
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so are they still gonna be called Pension Plan Puppets?
that name has no meaning now…sucks for them.
Leafs on HNIC
Side effect of this, but with Bell (TSN) and Rogers (Sportsnet) owning the Leafs, it could become harder (or more expensive) for CBC to get Leafs game on Saturdays.
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I doubt that
Just more Habs games on the main channel. Sens are not a big draw.
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That goes through the NHL, as that's a national broadcast licence
The individual teams have no say (or close to it) in how those go out. It’s the regional stuff the teams have the choice in.
Scheduling, however….
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah CBC has exclusive Saturday rights but I mean Leafs could move their games outside Saturdays since they get to submit a list of dates.
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I think that might make the fanbase grumpy.
They already complain when they’re not given their 7pm Saturday game.
(I also think there’s a limit to how many times a team can appear on each network under the current contract. I wouldn’t be surprised if CBC is guaranteed X number of Leaf games until the end of the deal.)
I don't think so
The 29 other owners wouldn’t be very happy is the rest of the league lost out on national broadcasting monies in order to enrich the owners of the richest franchise in the league.
If the Leafs were to insist on adding stipulations to CBC’s national Saturday night broadcast, you can be sure it would affect the amount of money CBC was willing to pay for those rights—especially since the Leafs are the cash cow team for HNIC. (And that’s assuming MLSE will even have much input into the negotiations between CBC and the NHL, which seems unlikely to me.)
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 12, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I also fully expect CBC to totally lose out on the next national contract now.
It’s weird though. CBC and Bell are cooperating on the Olympics. I guess that’s business though.
There was a decent chance they were going to be outbid anyways
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
It's true.
But thinking on it, I believe CBC still has a shot. It all hinges on whether the NHL places any importance on having lots of hockey on an over-the-air network or not. It’s a less important factor than it used to be for sure, but it might still buy the CBC some favour with the league.
(Whatever deal Rogers and/or BCE might want to make with the league for national rights, there’s no way that CTV, for instance, would promise the league doubleheaders on Saturdays throughout the year AND playoff games on every night in April, May and June. No way CTV gives up local news in some parts of the country, and its entire prime-time schedule in others.)
Then there's the number of games
TSN just doesn’t have the capacity to produce 4-5 game broadcasts in a night like CBC does.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well, sort of.
They’ve created regional feeds for the Jets and Habs. No reason they couldn’t just create more regional feeds. Might piss off some cable carriers who’d have to pick up another HD channel, but it’s not like any cable company in Southern Ontario is going to refuse to pick up “TSN-Leafs” if it was ever created.
I more meant they don't have the production crews
But besides that, regional feeds won’t qualify them to bid on a game up for national broadcast.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Production crews would be a pretty easy fix though you’d think?
And I just meant that TSN can’t at the moment split its distribution in the same way CBC can for 3 or 4 games on at the same time (which would be seen as a flaw in any national bid they might want to put in for Saturday nights), but that could be solved.
Not necessarily
That equipment isn’t exactly cheap.
Experienced crews aren’t quite a dime a dozen either – but I suppose if they won the bid, there’d be a few out of work CBC crews looking for jobs. And they might be able to get some gently used equipment at a good price!
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely!
I was just thinking more about how there’s kind of an arms race on between TSN and Sportsnet in terms of hockey coverage (who can have the most people on their panel!) and either one of them would probably love the opportunity to pick up the entire national contract.
I can’t imagine a scenario where TSN wouldn’t buy all the equipment it needs if the whole she-bang was in play, you know? TSN would metaphorically step over its own mother if it meant they’d wind up with Leaf playoff games on the network.
Yeah, they probably would
But it would undercut how high they’d be able to bid on it, as they’d have to factor that into the budget.
The budget may well be big enough to still pull it off, but it is a factor.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so
I’d like to see as few Sens games on CBC as possible. * grumbles about no HD on CBC *
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I think I'm hurt as bad as anyone when the Sens are on CBC...
…because it means I can only watch the games on my computer (the regional ones anyway – not the one against Vancouver tomorrow). But I’d still be sad to see the end of HNIC, much as I bitch about it.
Eh...they can be a playoff thing
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That they can still get all the guarantee playoff rights that they do now. But for regular season, I’d prefer TSN/Sportsnet HD crew.
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I don't think the NHL would split up playoff/regular season rights like that.
I can’t think of a league that’s ever done that – where they only sell playoff games to a network.
It wouldn’t make sense for CBC either to have to hire a bunch of hockey staff, but only seasonally for the spring.
Fair point
I guess I just want a reduced role for CBC. Or I just want Bell to get CBC Ottawa HD, either one works. ;)
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Depends on the crew calling the games....
CBC usually use people who are Toronto-centric and therefore have little knowledge of Ottawa.
It's kind of amazing
That the satellite and cable companies haven’t picked up on this yet. Neither Shaw, nor Bell, nor my local cable company offer CBC Ottawa in HD.
If any of them picked it up, I would probably switch just based on that alone.
I only get CBC-Toronto, CBC-Montreal and CBC-Vancouver in HD.
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HD takes up a lot of limited bandwidth
So the satellite providers are going to stick to the bigger markets, and out-of-market cable providers won’t go for it either for that reason. Only ones that don’t have much excuse are the cable operators in areas that have CBC-O as their local CBC.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
:(
Then they should not black it out from Centre Ice.
The way I see it, if I pay for CBC package, TSN package, Sportsnet, Centre Ice…if there is a Sens game in HD, I should get it in HD some how. :/
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This. So hard.
I have it even worse – my provider doesn’t offer CBC Ottawa in SD, even. So when Ottawa plays on Saturday nights, if only CBOT is carrying the game, my only option to see the game at all is on my computer.
They need to work around the restrictions on Centre Ice in extenuating circumstances like these.
Yeah, blacking it out on Centre Ice is douchy
But it’s probably an NHL thing, not a BDU thing.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
It is.
When I realized the situation last season, I wrote my cable provider. They told me their hands were tied and it was up to a third-party that provides the channels to them.
I then wrote the NHL a polite, thorough email explaining the situation.
I got no response.
There must be a workaround though.
I mean, my Centre Ice package takes up 9 HD channels, and the programming on those channels on airs 3 or 6 hours a day.
If they can manage to find the bandwidth for that, I find it hard to believe they can’t find the bandwidth for a few extra locals in HD (just the ones that have regional sports, really).
I would think there’d be a market for a TV provider to position itself as the best place for sports fans to migrate to, you know? Right now Shaw Direct has a channel called “The Frame”, which is offered in HD.
Clicked "Post" too soon.
Meant to elaborate that “The Frame” is a channel that just rotates artworks on your TV screen. Like a screensaver.
Put another way:
All things being equal, does it make more sense for a Canadian TV provider to use bandwidth to squeeze through a Panthers/Canes tilt, or a Sens game? Because somehow they’ve managed to provide me with every single Panthers game on Centre Ice, but I somehow am prevented from watching the Sens most Saturday nights.
It doesn’t make much sense when you look at it that way, does it?
I guess they only have to show hockey on it. Which might pull better ratings than random CBC crap on CBC-Ottawa which is almost the same programming as CBC-Ottawa 95% of the time.
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All comes down to money
When there is limited bandwidth available, they’ll prioritize it towards the better earners as much as possible. And CBC Ottawa, with 90+% the same programming as CBC Toronto or Montreal, is much further down the list than Centre Ice.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I get that.
But there has to be more money, under some other kind of structure, to be made by showing Canadian teams in Canada than by showing teams that are largely irrelevant up here.
How about this: I used to be a Bell subscriber (back when it was still “ExpressVu” and I still lived in a province). At that time, they had a channel that was called “CTV Ottawa News” or something like that. It was off the air most of the day, because it would just have been doubling up on the CTV Toronto channel that was just up the dial a little bit.
All that the CTV Ottawa channel existed for was to air CJOH’s newscasts. The channel would be black from midnight until noon, air the noon news, go dark again until 6pm for the supper-hour news, and then go off the air until the 11:30 news.
Maybe something along those lines could work as a model for getting every HNIC game on the air on a given TV provider.
I remember that
That channel actually showed a few other things as well, though. They just picked and chose to make sure there was no overlap.
It’s a model that could work, and a model that Bell still uses for some regional broadcasts (but not CTV Ottawa anymore, they got promoted back to a full SD channel).
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I hope we can agree...
…that it’s kind of ridiculous that someone in Canada would have no trouble watching all of the Coyotes’ 82 games each season, but almost once a week would not be able to watch a Canadian team, yes?
I mean, I think I speak for Adnan too when I say this: If they told me I had to pay extra to see the Sens on Saturday nights, I would complain about it, but I would pay! It’s kind of ridiculous that it’s not even an option.
Oh yeah
Though Adnan can see the games – just not in HD. I just don’t think there’s a strong enough business case for providing HD-CBC Ottawa. I think there IS a business case for letting Centre Ice show it, but unfortunately the NHL seems to disagree.
Your not getting even the SD version goes well beyond that though. That’s just absurd.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
And I just meant...
…that I was presuming Adnan would probably fork over some cash to get an HD feed. Seems like it would be worth it to him to solve some of his #adnanproblems
Definitely would
I got like 10 different citiies for CBC standard definition though yeah.
But yeah after watching games in HD, a downgrade to SD just looks downright brutal.
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I disagree
Exception: When playing against Toronto
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
And even against any Canadian team other than Toronto, it’s usually not too bad.
Though that may just be relative to Bob Cole.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
True dat.
Tomorrow night it’s Hughson and Galley working the game. Hughson’s a Canuck guy at heart, but Galley knows the Sens pretty well and lives in town. That seems like a good balance.
GREAT SAVE LUONGO
STOPPED BY LUONGO
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The coming Summer Olympics are a Rogers and CTV co-production
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I guy I follow on Twitter has suspicions about Bell and Rogers bidding together on nat'l NHL rights.
Which would mean CBC is still very much in the game.
Basically, he had a quote from one of the execs at the press conference saying that it’s a “race” between Bell and Rogers to see who can capitalize on this the best. Which makes it sound like they won’t be cooperating on a whole lot outside the actual running of the franchises (and branding and marketing and so on).
If that’s the case, then CBC is still in the running because Sportsnet alone doesn’t have the kind of penetration in Canada it would need (right now at the moment, anyway) to win the full national broadcast deal. Instead, they’d have to partner up with a network that does. And of course Scott Moore who’s a bigwig at Rogers used to be the head of CBC Sports not too long ago…
Anyway, it’s just speculation, but I think it’s interesting.
And that whole scenario would be really weird if it came to pass
In the sense that CBC would be partnering with Bell on the Olympics, and with Rogers on NHL.
Not 100% on that
Not yet at least. Though they’re currently the only bid, and Rogers is contractually restricted from bidding on the Sochi and Rio games.
Shaw(Global) could still bid on it, though they don’t exactly have much in the way of sports broadcasting experience these days. Their only option for that would be to team up with The Score, which, well, means teaming up with The Score. Who, in a country with 3 sports networks, somehow manages to rank 5th for live sports coverage.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough.
But I think it’s all but a done deal at this point. No way the IOC goes with broadcasters as untested as those.
Probably right
There might be an outside chance if their bid is absolutely spectacular, but even if they threw twice as much money as it as CBC/Bell, it would still be a slim, slim chance.
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Garrioch
Unless MacLean starts to really blow chunks as coach – and he is doing the exact opposite so far – Bruce should just keep his “surprise” (read backseat driving) to himself.
I actually agree with Garrioch on that one
I feel so very, very dirty for saying that….
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Me too
You know Filatov situation is bizarre when Garrioch and Brennan are surprised at the chance a Russian player is given.
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3rd Period Collapses
After all my hopeful predictions about Kuba bouncing back this season, it feels good (and bad) to say we miss him.
Its definitely strange
I had a whole year’s worth of hating I was ready to direct Kuba’s way, but between him playing well and being injured, I’m feeling a little short changed lol
Complete aside
Sparty was at my company Christmas party last night. It was unexpected.
Cats have nine lives
YOU DON’T.
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by Mark Parisi on Dec 9, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Based on that evidence, I would say that you have three lives then
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That makes sense
I mean, that’s usually how many lives you get in video games, right?
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
↑↑↓↓←→←→BA
Up, down, left and right I can figure out…. but where the hell are the A and B buttons?
by B_T on Dec 9, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
We are caught in the middle...
Either we need to find a way to put the puck in the net more, or generate a more substantive shutdown defense to protect the leads we get. We have offensive defensemen, and defensive forwards. We have the players, and we have the coaching. I am confident this is a problem that will be remedied by this time next year.
But there is a meantime, and there are plenty of people in the organization with a need to justify their job.
I am not so knowledgable as to say I know what the probelm is exactly , or what the solution should be, but will the Paulrus be able to correct this situation in a timely fashion, or will BM take this into his own hands and make some moves. It is getting to that point in the season; the team has some liquidity, equity, and needs
I am hoping to weather this year with our leading men, supporing cast, and occasional walk on; but since that game where we were roughed up by Sid in Pittsburgh, we have been trying to hang on in situations where we were ahead. There are a half dozen games now, that we could/should have won. Split the difference for another 6 points and see where we could be.
We are doing better than everyone anticipated. Could we be doing better? Could we cross the line, and gain a foothold in the playoffs?
I am just happy we didnt make a move for Kaberle…….err. I am sure that move made sense for at least two people, I am just glad our GM wasnt one of them.
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