Free Agent Splash in 2012 or 2013
In the next two offseasons, some big names are going to be available. How big? Sidney Crosby's contract is expiring. And while a lot of players (like crosby) will probably be re-signed by the time their respective july 1st comes around, there is still going to be a lot of quality, especially at the forward position. Next year? Parise, Smyth, Semin, Hemsky, Boyes and Penner all have a lot of offensive prowess and potential. The year after? Crosby, J. Staal, Perry and Getzlaf headline that group. Seeing as how the sens have the cap space, and the need for a top line forward, especially with Alfredsson where he is in age now, do you go for it and spend 7 million on Parise or Perry? Conventional wisdom says that you build a team from within the organization. Apparently though, many winning teams needed a boost while their youth were developing. Boston needed Chara, Anaheim needed Pronger (through trade) and Niedermayer, while Chicago gave Hossa a big fat contract prior to winning their title. Even the Pens Gonchar was a big piece to the winning puzzle. Really the only cup winning teams since the lockout who didn't have a big free agent were Detroit and Carolina.
I'm also sorry to say that even though some of the prospects are starting to come into their own, like Silfverberg and Pageau, others like Puempel and Noesen appear to be regressing. Its still early in their careers, but do we really have the patience being hockey fans to wait 5 years before they can make an impact? By then pretty much most of the roster we know will probably be gone.
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For me, the issue is price
We have cap space now; that’s great. But we have no idea what the salary cap will look like beyond this year. There may not even be a season next year. We have to pay Karlsson immediately, and we’ll also have to re-sign kids like Rundblad and Cowen in the near future. We’ll also have to pay Michalek and Spezza if we want to keep them. That doesn’t even begin to take into account any salary dished out if our young guns develop. The odds are good that Lehner, Zibanejad, and Silfverberg all finish their entry level deals the same year.
That’s a lot to juggle.
Then, on top of that, you have to consider the massive overpayment teams have to make for top free agents. Semin, Parise, and Perry will all be closer to 28 than 27 if they hit free agency. Are we willing to commit nine years at seven million a year for one of those players?
I’m not sure throwing money like that around is the right long-term strategy for success.
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Agreed that it depends on the price, but I still think this may be necessary.
As far as I can see, we don’t have any top line forward prospects in the system. When Alfie leaves, there will be a huge hole at the forward position that will need to be filled. With the team we have right now, I don’t think there’s too much risk of going over the cap anytime soon. So I’d definitely be for signing a superstar forward. That being said, I wouldn’t want to give out 8-9 years to any of these guys either.
And I think Spezza’s next contract (starting at age 32) will come cheaper than the current one.
I don’t think anyone will make us forget Alfie.
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Well, Spezza's best comparable is Brad Richards
And he got 9 years and $60M. There’s not much reason to believe that salaries will go down in the next six years.
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I vote yes for 2012
I would love either Semin or Parise. With neither one putting up great numbers, they might be able to be signed relatively cheaply in the $5 to $5.5 million range.
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I would go for Parise
not Semin. He’s being healthy scratched. Parise is the captain of N.J. (i’m pretty sure). Two good players, only one with good enough character. IMO
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Dec 7, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
we'll have a lot of retiring contracts of our own, so i vote YES in 2 yrs.
In the next two years, we’ll be seeing a lot of cap space free itself, namely with the departure of Kuba and Gonchar, not to mention Alfie (those three alone are like 12-13M) and the cap space we already have. A lot will be dedicated to resigning the young corp we have coming up. Heck, we can afford to take on a salary now!
Anyway, center is where we need support. I see Mika Z needing another year of seasoning. But, finding a great 2nd line center is not small task. It is possible that Foligno’s development finally cements itself and he can slide in to no.2 next year.
Aside from center, i think it’s premature to see where we’ll need to add most until we see who is developing how. I see maybe re-signing Kuba for another year (i think it might be Gonchar we end up trading this year) and i’m guessing Cowen and Rundblad will improve into next year. If Lee and Carkner stick around, we’re set on D. So i would rather see an up-front signing at this point.
Which retiring contracts will we have?
The only ones I can see are Alfredsson and Gonchar.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 12, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Semin?
I can’t believe anybody would have interest in Semin, especially considering our track record with Yashin/Kovalev and, to a lesser extent, Filatov. Semin is world-class talent but has the heart of a gerbil. I’d want nothing to do with him. Plus, he fights like a 4 year-old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
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There's plenty to criticize about Semin himself
I don’t see what signing Semin has to do with Yashin or Kovalev, and I don’t even see much similarity between Yashin and Kovalev—aside from all three being Russian, which is a pretty weak commonality on which to judge them all.
Personally, I have no interest in Semin, either. But that’s based on Semin’s track record in the NHL, not based on any experience the Senators have had with Russian players.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 12, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
my point was
to draw a line between the Russians we’ve had in Ottawa and the fact that they all, at one point, were labelled “enigmatic”. Both Yashin and Kovalev had all-world skill but used it only sporadically. That’s exactly how I see Semin. He can dominate but rarely does.
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Building
It a funny thing about cap space. A team that builds from within and spends wisely has some room for a Free Agent to fill a hole and complete things. Even a little bit of bad spending and then before you know it, there is no room for anything.
There are players that will need larger contracts or we will lose them… Karlsson, Cowen, Rundblad, and whichever forward ultimately ends up taking over the 2nd line center position. Plus whoever wins the 2nd line right wing position long term will need a bigger contract.
All of this adds up. The priority right now is to build from within. The only player on that afore-mentioned list that I’d love to go after is Parise, because he’s young enough and good enough to be able to stlill be ours when we are ready for prime time. But the list of suitors for him will be a long one.
And yes we should have the patience to wait on the developing players.
With Silfverberg and Z’jad coming next year, we’ll be fine at the forward position. Another stud dman and another prospect goalie to add to the mix and we’ll be moving up into the playoffs and maybe for a few rounds of the playoffs as well.
This is a good point
Waiting until there is a core in place, and then filling holes at that time, is the best way to build a champion. It’s much harder to build an entire team through free agency; I can’t think of a time when it has been done successfully.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 12, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
On Parise...
Given the fact that Parise was named captain coming into this season, I find it unlikely they’re really going to let him go. They can’t negotiate until January 1st, per cap restrictions, but have to believe they can lock him down.
If he were to hit free agency, it would be huge. 40-goal types really hitting the prime of their careers will get… a lot. I can think of few bigger free agents over the last few years, actually. The numbers that Parise have put up, this year notwithstanding, are something else for a guy whose best centreman in his career has been Travis Zajac.
Given what I think it would take to get a player like that, I’m not sure I’d do it. Moreover, if you are going to go all out and try and get a guy who can get goal totals in the 40s again, I’d be wary of that ACL that kept him out last season, although I don’t think that’s going to seriously hurt his salary.
To be fair, though, it wasn't his ACL
He didn’t tear any ligaments. The knee injury he suffered was easily repairable with surgery and doesn’t make him more prone to future injuries.
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All quality FAs are like that (like Parise)
The FA market is not free by any stretch. The best FAs have the most suitors. That’s why so many of them end up overpaid (Komisarek is a perfect example)… and any team that accumulates a few overpaid players ends up with no room left when they need to make a move.
I’d love to have Parise, but not if it means selling out the future or giving him the maximum which ends up costing too much because it upsets the whole salary structure.
When it comes to offence, we are doing fine, and have tons of talent not just knocking on the door but set to break it down next year.
If we have to spend, I’d rather do it on a Dman veteran who can stem the tide while some of our young studs gain experience including letting the guys on the farm sort themselves out.
In the meantime, Karlsson, Rundblad and Cowen are doing great.
Michalek turned out to be a real bargain (thanks Dany) and we don’t have to spend a fortune on his scoring.
I’d like to see us stay in rebuilding mode and not do anything foolish on the FA front this year.
I vote for opportunity
When opportunity presents itself, we shall take the best proven UFA available for the money. But the truth is we will have to pay Karlsson, Filatov :), Smith, Neil, Foligno, Rundbald, and all of them will want more than they are making now.
However with Alfie retiring someday, Gonch and Kuba gone, we will need some veterans to make this team push for the finals. Parise would look good as Senator!
I know that, that doesn't matter, I know you Mr. Rainey, that's what matters. You stole my story.
It's highly dependent on his these situations shake out
The most pressing variable in this is the upcoming CBA, and what that will do to the league’s salary cap. If it brings it down, or affects it in some significant way, then free agents might be difficult signings to make.
After that, it depends on which FAs are available; few of them are worth the FA premium, and if our team is managed with the expectation of using free agency to fill out the roster, we’ll likely miss out on who we really want and end up making a mistake by signing our second choice to a ridiculously inflated contract that we’ll regret in no time.
I voted for ‘both,’ because I think the team needs to be prepared to make offers both years, in case a move comes along that can’t be ignored. There are always many opportunities in free agency, but those seem to turn out badly a lot more frequently than they turn out well.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 12, 2011 9:30 AM EST reply actions
Dream along
When it comes to signing FAs, each case is a case all its own. In general though, bidding wars tend to screw everyone royally except the bank manager and agent of the player involved… and you end up stuck with a Mike Komisarek at $4.5 million until what seems like the end of eternity.
And there are some players that end up being a bargain… although I can’t even think of one…
In the end the best way to build is through the draft, and winning teams generally have a few young guys that end up being incredible bargains before their Entry Level deal expires.
So I’d like to see us maximize who we have as prospects and then when we are ready to contend, we can add a select FA to fill whatever hole there is.
Signing an FA now is a shot in the dark, unless it’s Parise (dreeeeeeammmm along with me).

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