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Has Nick Foligno already developed a reputation?

The NHL is a reputation league. Let's not pretend it's not. Rookies don't draw the same calls as veterans, and third-liners don't draw the same calls as superstars. Sidney Crosby draws penalty calls in part because his skill on the ice often forces players to hack, hook, or trip him just to try to stop a play, and yes, in part because he talks to the officials constantly, but also in part because he's Sidney Crosby and there will always be a set of eyes watching him. It's hard to get away with fouls when someone is watching.

And it works the other way, too. Senators fans know this well, thanks to years of watching Chris Neil and Jarkko Ruutu play. Both players have a reputation in the league: Neil as guy who plays on the edge and deserves most of the retaliation he gets, and Ruutu as antagonistic pest who would dive from a kiss on the cheek by his own mother if he thought it might result in a power play. Though that play was, and is, beneficial to the Senators--don't think Neil's 10 hits against Florida didn't make a difference in last Thursday's win--it also means Neil better be bleeding heavily for the other side to even sniff the penalty box. Just ask Alex Ovechkin if you need proof.

So when Nick Foligno crushes Keaton Ellerby with what is indisputably a clean hit and winds up ejected for charging, you have to wonder just what the heck is going on--and knowing that the NHL is a reputation league, the question has to at least be asked if the penalty on Foligno that came out of the officials' conference only after the hit was based on a reputation he has developed.

It's not like there's been a shortage of big hits from Foligno this year.

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If you're waiting for the head shots, wait a little longer. First, let's look at this open ice hit on Pat Dwyer from last season. This hit was on October 14th, 2010--before the implementation of the new rules regarding hits to the head:

That hit is right on the borderline of legal. As I've discussed in the past, Foligno seems to be at his best when he is playing a physical game. It seems like he's aware of this as well. And though I don't believe he's a dirty player, part of the nature of seeking out big hits is that there's a higher risk of penalty. It's worth noting that the league fined Foligno $2500 for this hit, the maximum allowed under the current CBA.

That was last year. Did the fine deter Foligno from throwing big hits? Not at all. Just a few months later, here he is hitting the Buffalo Sabres' Tyler Ennis:


This is the Foligno of this season:

Picking up right where he left off, Foligno checks the Sammy Pahlsson of the Columbus Blue Jackets into the Senators' bench:

Awesome.

Next, Foligno sets his sights on Steve Sullivan of the Penguins, in a hit that looks similar in execution to the Dwyer hit, though thankfully with much less head contact:

And of course, there were two clean hits on Cody Hodgson and Ryan Kesler in the same game. Both were hits to the head, which drew the ire of the Canucks to no one's surprise.

First, the Hodgson hit, which is the unfortunate result of Hodgson slipping and leaving himself in a defenseless position.

There's nothing Foligno can do here short of altering the laws of physics.

And then we see the same thing by Ryan Kesler:

Kesler clearly drops to his knees and as a result takes a blow to the head. Foligno was penalized for this hit. Was it because the hit was illegal or because it was the second check that Foligno had thrown in the same game resulting in head contact? Was that the last straw for the officials?

It's not like Foligno hasn't suffered his fair share of abuse this year.

This Sidney Crosby elbow probably could have been called roughing, but wasn't:

And just in the past few weeks, Foligno has received knee-on-knee hits in back to back games:

And then the very next game, Simon Despres of the Penguins did the same thing! Was Foligno targeted? Probably not, but one knee-on-knee hit is coincidental enough. Two in two consecutive games sure feels like a little more than coincidence. But the proof of that is merely speculatory on my part. There's no way to prove that Foligno was targeted due to his reputation.

Now, in both cases, penalties were called for the hits. Adam McQuaid received a five-minute major and a game misconduct, and a $2500 fine for the hit you just watched. Despres got two minutes for kneeing. From that, we can comfortably say that we know officials are not looking the other way when an obvious penalty is committed against Foligno.

But on the other hand, it's hard to justify ejecting Foligno from a game for a clean hit, despite how Kerry Fraser tries to explain it.

In the end, there's not enough evidence for me to definitively make an argument one way or another. Again, I don't believe Foligno is a dirty player, but he's got a pretty decent highlight reel of borderline hits. It's not difficult to believe that the officials caught the tail end of the Foligno-Ellerby collision, conferred, and decided that this was a player who had been fined before and had recently delivered blows to the head, and that because of that, there was similar intent on that hit.

If, and that's a big if, that was the case, then I'd consider that a reputation call. And that would be a shame so early in a young career.

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Great article Mark

I think you’re probably right about Foligno having a bit of a reputation. I’ve noticed opposing teams target him a bit, and officials not giv him the benefit of the doubt. But I wonder if it’s that big a deal. Aside from the odd annoying penalty call, there’s not too much wrong with being under the other team’s skin, is there?

by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 27, 2011 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

Neil has a rep and 0 suspensions

I think this was bad luck and the odd climate on head hits. I’m not sure ejections/suspensions should be our concern. The various dirty hits to his head and knees are more worrying.

by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 27, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he does

And some of those hits make it pretty obvious why he might have a reputation.

Still, the biggest thing I realized watching those clips is that players need to keep their friggin’ heads up. A lot of the most questionable hits in this package areva result of the opposing player falling (Ennis, Hodgson, Kesler), but some of the others are just guys not being aware of the fact that there are five players on the Senators looking to violently check them off the puck. That pass to Pat Dwyer is a perfect example: the defenceman sends him a brutal suicide pass, and as soon as Dwyer looks forward, there’s a Foligno right in front of him.

by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 27, 2011 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

None of these hits is what I would call dirty at all. This headshot rule shouldn’t protect players from their own stupidity. It has to be a 2-way street, as not all headshots are created equal. Even looking back at the classic case, Lindros/Stevens, the reality is that hit isn’t an issue if Lindros keeps his head up. If you get caught looking at your feet with your head down and someone lays the boom on you, hockey 101 says it’s your own fault. If a player drops their head down to shoulder level, then they’ve created their own problem.

by modsuperstar on Dec 27, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm on this train

I don’t think he’s a guy who is ever looking to injure or cheap shot anyone, but he really doesn’t have any reservations about blowing a guy up if the opportunity presents itself. Other players need to be aware that he’s on the ice because of that and play accordingly. And if the players aren’t getting it, then the coaches need to point out “be aware of 71, he throws big hits”.

As far as reputation, well, I don’t know if I take Crosby at his word that Foligno has one around the league, but it is clear that after the Van game eyes are on him. Its like the Lessard ejection last year. Clean hit, but the ref has been waiting for the guy to do something and overreacts.

Scholar, Gentleman, Shameless Sens Homer with a Heart of Gold.

by Johnny_Spectacular on Dec 27, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Soccer example

In soccer, if you put your head close to the ball and the ball is in a position where you could reasonably expect someone to kick it, you get penalized. Its called a “dangerous play” (same call if you make an insane tackle that doesnt connect (the rule is not very clear). The idea is that you shouldnt put yourself in a position where theres a high risk of someone injuring you.

Could something like this be usable in hockey? I dont think so… A 2 minute minor for not keeping your head up when Chris Neil, Foligno; Clutterbucker is close? Nah… Or?

I think the game needs to be changed a bit. The speed and skill in the game will keep increasing, the rink is small, the rest is physics: At some point the players collide and the faster they are going, the smaller the rink, the higher the risk.
I dont think you can teach people to keep their heads up all the time and solve it that way.

by DonnyT on Dec 29, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Off topic - New drinking game: "Where's Paulrus?"

So for some reason I was feeling wistful last night and played some old retirement ceremonies for Pat LaFontaien and Steve Yzerman. At the end of Yzerman’s ceremony, he shook hands and went down a line of people where…ZOUNDS! Paul MacLean’s ’stache jumped into sight!

This prompted some IMing with the buds and we basically made it into a drinking game. Go through old Jets/Wings/etc clips. If you spot MacLean’s ’stache, you take a shot.
Do this only if you can hold your liquids kids….

by Quizzical Quorum on Dec 27, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I don't know he has a reputation

But if he is getting one I am all for it! He plays hard but I think he plays fair and I certainly don’t think he it attempting to injure anyone but he is attempting to make sure he finishes his check.

On another note, a little early but since the game day thread isn’t up yet…anyone know of a stream I can use while I am still stuck in T.O visiting family for Xmas? I will only get the Leafs game on Sportsnet here…Help!

by OD99 on Dec 27, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Totally unrelated...

But I can’t get this potentially very cheesy nickname out of my head; Jesse Winchester brings a lot of intangibles to our team, and yet isn’t particularly incredible at any skillset. One might call this type of player the “linchpin” of a team’s nucleus, so why not call him the “Winchpin”? It’s incredibly lame and doubt it will stick, but I find it hilarious enough in some way that it makes me laugh every time I think of it!

by Bridges16 on Dec 27, 2011 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

Great commentating

At the end of the Crosby – Foligno clip: “Nick Foligno, for absorbing that elbow, gets 2 minutes”.

by DonnyT on Dec 29, 2011 3:35 AM EST reply actions  

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