Silver Nuggets: The Turris trade aftermath
by Adnan on Dec 19, 2011 1:00 PM EST
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The newest addition to the Ottawa Senators, Kyle Turris, will wear the #7 previously worn by David Rundblad. Not sure why he would pick that exact number, but sure why not? Is he also going to be Magic Number Seven? No. Since many Ottawa fans wish we could undo this trade, the great Ryan Classic has nicknamed him Ctrl-Z. Harsh? Probably. Funny? Certainly.
I think the trade is a mistake (even if Turris works out) because of gross overpayment. But, Turris is here now and sadly there is no Ctrl-Z on this trade. It is done and we all love the Ottawa Senators first and foremost. At some point, all of us will try to rationalise the trade and move on. My personal hope is that while we gave up far too much to acquire him, the Senators are patient with Turris. Let's not write him off or dump him to the fourth line if he doesn't score by Thursday. It is not his fault what Ottawa paid for him, so let's just remember he is a 22-year old player trying to get his career back on track.
Ottawa fans will get their first look at Turris tomorrow night when Ottawa host the Buffalo Sabres. On Thursday night, in front of many Silver Seven loyalists, the Senators will host the Florida Panthers. They will close out the week with a road game against the Hurricanes in Carolina on Friday.
After a pretty tough schedule last week, this one appears certainly easier. They would have to be favourites at home to Buffalo and in Carolina. Florida is doing well, but at home the Senators certainly have a chance. On paper, this should be at least a four point week, but on paper the Senators shouldn't have been near four points last week.
Rundblad/Turris trade reaction
- Harrison Mooney sees the trade as a clear win for Phoenix, but leaves room for Ottawa salvaging the trade. (Yahoo!)
- Scott Cullen says neither player has met expectations so far. I will point out though, that Rundblad has had far less time to meet expectations so far in the NHL. (TSN)
- Corey Pronman also sees it as a win for Phoenix, pointing out that the risk/reward from Ottawa's point of view isn't justifiable. He mentions Rundblad's struggles being in a much smaller sample size than Turris' struggles. There is also the contract side. Phoenix has 6.5 seasons of Rundblad before he becomes a UFA while Turris only has 4.5 seasons left and none at an entry level. Again, Pronman leaves room for Ottawa conceivably coming out on top. (Hockey Prospectus)
- Darren Pang is one person who likes this deal from Ottawa's point of view, seeing Turris as a great fit. Pang thinks Phoenix made a mistake by prematurely taking Turris out of college. According to Pang, what makes Turris distinct from other centres is that he isn't afraid to shoot the puck instead of always looking for the pass. (Ottawa Sun)
- Jared Crozier is also against the trade, saying it is a big mistake. (SenShot)
- Graeme Nichols was the Sens blogger that has wanted to acquire Kyle Turris more so than any other. He had previously stated he was only interesting if the price was right. He agrees that the Senators paid a lot to get Turris, but he is still pretty happy about the trade. He lists the defencemen available in the 2012 draft, the emergence of Jared Cowen as some reasons for letting Rundblad go. He also feels the lost second round pick is softened by the extra picks from last season. (The 6th Sens)
- Nichols also talked to Rick Komarow, the agent of David Rundblad. I don't know what was said, but you are welcome to describe it for me. (The 6th Sens)
- Kyle Turris' first practise was on a line with Nick Foligno and Erik Condra. The full lines: 1) Greening-Spezza-Alfredsson, 2) Foligno-Turris-Condra, 3) Smith-Regin-Neil, 4) Daugavins-Konopka-Winchester. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
- Sergei Gonchar and Filip Kuba are both back. Brian Lee is the seventh defenceman so...I guess it was Matt Carkner who made David Rundblad expendable? Ha! 1) Cowen-Karlsson, 2) Kuba-Gonchar, 3) Phillips-Carkner. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
- Having seen Filip Kuba skate on the top line in practise last week, today we saw Bobby Butler be on a defensive pairing with Brian Lee. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
- Jason Spezza thinks Jared Cowen should win the Calder Trophy. It's nice of Spezza to say that for a teammate, but that's crazy talk. Cowen has played on the top pairing for about two weeks, he was playing against the third lines for most of the season. If Cowen stays with Karlsson all year you could make a case for Cowen being a finalist. But Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is having almost an Ovechkin/Crosby type of rookie season. Run away winner for me. (Ottawa Sun)
- In recent weeks, Nick Foligno has been hit in the head by Sidney Crosby and kneed by both Adam McQuaid and Simon Despres. Foligno's been lucky to not get seriously hurt in either of the three cases but hopes the pattern of dangerous hits on him ends. (Ottawa Sun)
- Nikita Filatov hasn't been able to sign a contract with CSKA Moscow because the club is having financial difficulties due to sponsorship problems. Filatov's agent says if CSKA doesn't sign or trade him soon, Filatov will return to Ottawa (and then presumably Binghamton). Got to feel for the guy. (Dmitry Chesnokov)
- Jason Spezza with eight points in three games, was named the first star of the week by the NHL. (Bruce Garrioch)
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Pierre McGuire on the Team had good things to say about Turris’ character and compete level. He said it was clear Phoenix rushed him up early from his university team where other draft picks from that year have had the beenift of a second year before going to the show and it is easy to tell the difference. Also that Turris has good defensive abilities as well. Doesn’t seem him above a seocnd line center, but who has the potential to be a 60 + pt player.
McGuire doesn’t make much sense, because I don’t think that there are too many 2nd line centers who score more than 60 points or more. That’s 30 goals and 30 assists which is not too shabby. Mike Fisher only had more than 50 once and never reached 60 points.
I was driving, so my “+” may be my imagination. 60 pts is well under pt per game Spezza et al. IF this guy reaches 60 pts, that’s excellent #2, but sub par #1. His take was that Turris is fast, skilled and has high compete level, coupled with some really decent in-tight skills. He thinks he has some stregth and conditioning to do, but the Sens are noted for that.
I agree with Marvellous that Fisher is not my example of an elite #2 but an elite #3.
If he reaches 60 points with 2nd line minutes, that would be excellent.
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Yeah, if we get that – if we get that – then the overall impact on the team is greater than the sum of the parts in the trade. You can only play so many guys for so many minutes. Eventually after a rebuild you want some decent prospects in the system as a revolving renewal system and budget manageemnt feature, but you settle on a core.
Kid K and Cowen on the back end, with a really solid set of centres all the way down and even others who can play the position in a pinch is a really good place to be in. Solid centres improve output form their wingers and solidify the play of the defence. When it mattered, we didn’t have that kind of high end skill in Sens Cup Contenders 1.0 Perhaps we will the next time around.
Hated this trade at first.
It is growing on me & makes sense on some levels. I would argue that it could have been Runblad for Turris straight up, but second round picks have been wasted on worse.
We can pick up a D-man through the draft this year that will have significant top 4 potential, that can replace Runblad possibly. Top 6 talent has been an issue in the past, and we haven’t yet found the combinations to make it work.
I’ve gone from hating it to being ok with it. Trust in management and all that jazz…
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Forgive me if I'm wrong...
But don’t we get a 2nd round pick this year from the Fisher to Nashville deal?
You are forgiven..
The Fisher trade was for the 1st rounder with a conditional pick being either a 3rd rounder if Nashville won a first round playoff matchup or a 2nd if they won 2 or more playoff round… Unfortunately, Vancouver beat Nashville in round 2 and we only get the 3rd rounder..
by ess e enn ess on Dec 20, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
I'm fine with the trade
it’s settled in and, after a few days to get my brain going, I’m fine with the trade.
The main conclusion I’ve come to is I think Rundblad’s skating is going to hold him back. The SEL is a slower league and is played on international ice. The benefit of time and space comes into play. More time and more space to make the pass/read the play/reposition defensively. I could be wrong, but I think after his very brief stint in Ottawa, BMurr noticed the deficiency. That and the fact that he’s never going to crack the top pairing in Ottawa made this trade happen.
Let’s give Turris a warm welcome!
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- Joe Corvo
I'm going to have to disagree with you
I thought that Rundblad, though not the fastest skater (by any stretch), was very smooth. He had this one move that blew me away, though I didn’t see it too often. I’ll try to describe it, but I’m a hand talker, so bear with me:
Rundblad would be skating to retrieve a puck behind the Sens net with a opponent right behind him, but rather than the usual wide arc, he would pivot as he was passing the far end of the net and make a b-line for center ice, without losing any speed. He’d be a full two strides ahead of whomever followed him, and since he maintained his speed (what little there was), any other opposition players would need to bust ass to catch him.
I’m warming to the Rundblad/Turris trade, but I still think Rundblad’s ceiling was crazy high, though Turris’ is none too shabby either. I shall miss those Rundbladian passes most of all….
PRAISE ALFIE!!!!
by High Priest of Alfie on Dec 19, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I can see your hands!
I know that move and many slower DMen use it. In fact, it’s actually become a pretty common move to shake the chaser quickly. Sami “The Porcelain Princess” Salo uses it very effectively and very often.
I didn’t mean to imply David was slow. He is only very average/below average in terms of overall speed. That being said, it’s his 1st and 2nd step that are really slow and that’s what separates the great defencemen from rest. I’m sure he’ll pan out in PHX but I think BMurray and Paulrus want speed…speed and more speed. As it stands now, we have a few slower dmen (Kuba/Carkner) but the rest can really move. BLee and Gonchar can ‘get up and down’, as can Phillips (always been underrated I think…for a big guy he can really motor). I don’t need to tell you how fast 65 is and Cowen is about as fast as you can get for a guy who’s 13 feet tall.
Those 1st 2 steps are integral if you’re an offensive dman. If you’re going to pinch you need to recover in a split second.
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How do you spell irony in Russian?
If Filatov doesn’t get signed and has to return to Bingo, now that would be a touch of irony.
starts with "vod" and ends with "ka"
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Not fair!!!
There should be 2 rookie awards – offensive player and defensive, maybe third for a goalie too (but that would be one horse race most of the time). How do you win as a defender? And who is Barret Jackman (02-03 winner) anyway??? Ignore him and last D who won it was Brian Leetch… you either have to be Brian Leetch or have a totally crappy class of forwards coming out that year. NOT FAIR! :)
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He would certainly be in the running for best rookie defenceman, though Adam Larsson has been impressive too.
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Filatov will sign in KHL
I was reading that CSKA got a new sponsor – russian national oil company ‘Rosneft’ and that it was ordered by de facto their president for the last gazillion years Mr. Putin to restore former glorry of that hockey club… I think their budged will baloon very soon to more than acceptable for Filatov… I wish nothing bad for Filatov, but maybe if he had to come back to Bingo it would build his caracter… but the problem here is not his caracter I think, it i$.
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it's most certainly $
My numbers are off, but I believe he’s getting about 65K in the AHL and was ‘offered’ 900K in Russia.
He doesn’t know if he’ll get a shot at the NHL salaries again so is playing it safe…I can’t entirely blame him.
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Gross overpayment is a gross overstatement
Word was Phoenix was looking for Z-bad and a 1st. THAT is a gross overpayment. It sounds very much like MacLean and to a lesser extent BMurr were not big on what they were seeing in Rundblad and we upgraded our front end with a player that Paulrus described as “one of Phoenixes best players” from Detroit’s series against them. Scott Cullen (TSN By the Numbers) did a pretty sober assessment of this and called it a relative wash.
Adnan, you’ve got to deal with your obsession over Swedish D-men. Or maybe you could talk Sens management into bringing Sami Salo back after Kuba and Gonchar’s contracts run out.
They wanted either Zibanejad or a 1st rounder, not both.
If we were getting Turris then 1st + 2nd or Zibanejad + 2nd would be a better deal in my opinion.
My dislike for the trade has nothing to do with Rundblad being Swedish though.
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How is Z-Bad + 2nd a better deal?
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Dec 19, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well it is still a terrible deal, just better than Rundblad + 2nd to me. Rundblad along with Lehner, are our best prospects in my opinion.
If we get Turris, then we have Regin and Da Costa in addition to Turris as potential 2nd line centres.
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I have a hard time considering it a gross overpayment. I agree that it was unnecessary, and risky. But to get potential, you have to give potential. Overpayment? Yes. Gross overpayment? That’s a bit much!
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Dec 19, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well to me a fair value for Turris would be just a 2nd rounder. I know there is no way Phoenix would do that, but that’s my value of him.
So Rundblad + 2nd rounder is gross overpayment to me.
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I think you overvalue Rundblad and undervalue Turris
I should write an article about this… ;)
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I agree
I understand a little more what you mean, however I agree with Mark. Then again, Turris hasn’t shown anything in a few years to warrant a high evaluation
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Dec 19, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Someone said on twitter if we could have traded Rundblad on draft day for Oilers first pick. They couldn’t have known how well RNH would have done could they?
While that is unlikely, I just can’t help but feel we let Rundblad go for too little. Trading him after struggling for 20 games. If they let him develop and lift his value up, then you could have gotten so much more in a couple years if you still didn’t think he fit.
Unless Murray thinks Rundblad is going to really go downwards I suppose.
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Yeah, I'm with you on that
I would have preferred to develop Rundblad and if had value enough to secure a better prospect, trade him at that point. But if that was the price to get Turris, I’m okay with it.
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only thing with waiting on Rumball
Is the assumption his value would have at least been preserved. Only other thing i would add is if you accept that the extra development time is worth something then it might justify the draft pick in part.
by west-sider on Dec 19, 2011 4:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My take on this
Here’s what I saw from Rundblad all season:
He has the skill to deke out most people, but it seems that every time he had the puck, he would have an angel and a devil sitting on his shoulder. The angel would say ‘play Paul Maclean’s system, pass the puck, make the play that benefits the team first’ and the devil would say ‘look, you can deke out all these idiots, just do it, cmaaaaaaaan’ and most of the time, it seems that he would be doing the latter. As someone who is better than some people in hockey, but worse that others, when I’m carrying the puck against someone who I know is worse than me skill-wise, it’s ALWAYS tempting to take advantage of that, which is what Rundblad did alot of the time (I’m sure any one of us who plays any sport can attest to this mindset). Alot of the time, the result for him was a giveaway or a bad play, but a few times the result was spectacular that really highlighted his offensive abilities.
I was initally really unhappy with the Turris trade, but that’s because I had emotionally invested in Rundblad and his future with Ottawa. Once I put the emotion aside, I realized that the Turris trade was a really smart move by Brian Murray because it really helps out our lack of depth at center and Turris’ uspide is just as great as Rundblads (in my opinion).
The second round pick I’m not too worried about because at the end of the day, our system has very good scouts and have made GREAT drafting decisions over the past couple of years. One pick isn’t going to make or break this organization.
MacLean must have read my article and worried about Lee's ego getting out of control!
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Turris will be on Team 1200 at 3:25
For those who are able to listen.
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Also, I'd have to agree that The Nuge is the clear runaway Calder winner
I’d love to see Cowen be a finalist. That’d still be a nice feather in our cap.
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If he keeps going yes
Nuge and Henrique are the top two, if Cowen keeps going that way, I would say he has a good chance
by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Dec 19, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Offer sheet for ~Turris
One more comparison popped into my mind driving to work this morning – since Turris is a RFA at the end of the season, this could be viewed as a reverse contract sheet offer.
Since we know that Murray got Turris for a 1st and 2nd rounders, this is more than a compensation paid to someone who is later signed for a cap hit in a range $3,134,089 to $4,701,131 (First- and third-round pick), so Murray thinks Turris is worth more than that? 5M a year? ($4,701,132 to $6,268,175 is for First-, second-, and third-round pick).
- If he has decent 2 seasons, K.Turris can ask for 5M when he is RFA…
- If we could lure away let’s say David Krejci from Boston for ~similar amount, meaning similar picks, or some other RFA… possibilities are almost endless here…
NOW I think we’ve operpaid…
I know that, that doesn't matter, I know you Mr. Rainey, that's what matters. You stole my story.
If we would have offered Turris an offer sheet
Phoenix would have just matched therefore, the offer sheet comparison doesn’t work. So even if in financial terms he is only worth ‘x’ amount in draft picks. In terms of potential he is worth that which the market will bear. Phoenix started with a roster player + 1st round pick as their asking price & ended up with a marginal (currently) roster player with potential + a 2nd round pick.
Its all about perspective. – But I’d rather have kept the draft pick and just traded straight up.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
I voted no, but...
It’s not because I didn’t want Turris, because I really did want BM to snag him. I said no because the cost was a bit too high. Like I said in an earlier thread, I’d have MUCH rather BM gave up our first round pick this year for Turris… provided it didn’t have to include a roster player.
Say we pick somewhere between 10 and 15th overall… well, they’re all going to be defensemen left, and none of whom will be anywhere near as good as Rundblad is projected to be.
I’d have rather taken a chance trading away a draft pick, and let Rundblad tough it out in the minors until the deadline, learning the North American game.
ALFIE! ALFIE! ALFIE!
I would definitely have given up a first round pick too.
Maybe the optics look bad and people start saying it is Kessel kind of trade again though Kessel had accomplished far more than Turris at that point.
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Although Rundblad was picked at right around that range
Technically, two years in a row
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That Depends
A guy like Slater Koekkoek – Defense for the Pete’s has been projected in the top 10. But he’s been out for a month & I believe will be out a while longer with injury. A guy like that could drop to the slot we’ll be picking in.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Surprised that Turris is wearing #7
Sens: “Kyle, what number do you want to wear?”
Turris: “I like 91.”
Sens: “Nah, that number has lingering stink around here. We got all these 7’s lying around. You want that?”
Turris: “Sure, whose was it last?”
Sens: “Some guy. Don’t even worry about it.”
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I wonder if the Sens did it so a lot of the fans could salvage the #7 jerseys by changing name plate.
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I've heard that suggested
I hope they’re not really that cheap.
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Well I meant more for the fans who have already bought a Rundblad jersey and don’t know what to do with it.
Man am I glad I didn’t buy one. Now I am kind of scared of buying Lehner next year.
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Why? Because he'll hunt down anyone with his name to make sure there's only one Lehner?
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by Mark Parisi on Dec 19, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No just kind of a reminder that we can trade anyone. Best to wait until they at least get established as starter.
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There's a reason I've only bought blanks
I think I’m safe buying an Alfie jersey at this point though.
I have Alfie, Spezza, Karlsson, Volchenkov and a blank.
Still haven’t turned Volchenkov into Da Costa though. ;)
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given our goaltending depth
I give a Lehner trade pretty slim odds.
by west-sider on Dec 19, 2011 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cowen (Home), Alfie (Heritage), and Redden for me...
Want to guess which one I tend not to ever wear?
Sens Jersey Fun Fact: I recently found a game worn Alexandre Daigle black away jersey for 91 bucks on eBay. Another piece of evidence pointing toward a Senators numbering conspiracy!
I tend to wear only Spezza and Karlsson these days. The other jerseys we no longer wear or the player left.
Basically I wear Spezza (current white) to away games and Karlsson (current red) to home games. ;)
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Exactly.
That’s why I waited until after the cup run to buy myself a Heatley jersey. And a Fisher jersey for my wife…
Oh well. It lasted longer than my Bondra and Arnason jerseys.
by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 19, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
ha! Arnason.
Whatever we paid for him was an ovwrpayment – even if it was a Swedish d-man. (nudge-nudge, wink-wink!)
by west-sider on Dec 19, 2011 4:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Filatov update as of 1 minute ago from Chesnokov
Filatov is still unsigned in Russia. He will not play for CSKA tomorrow. Hasn’t been traded either. The saga continues #Sens
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Maybe Filatov will come back...
…and play Turris off the second line.
by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 19, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yikes.
What about a 2nd line of Foligno-Turris-Filatov ? I’ve heard a lot about how Filatov considers himself a playmaker rather than a sniper, could we have Filatov running around the O-Zone setting up a sniping Turris, while Foligno power drives to the net? Drool
Wait, so you're a fan of TSN? The channel? The television channel? Channel 30?
The one that during the Balsillie affair ran the headline “Should Ontario Get a Second Team?” That TSN?
by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 19, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Turris' contract
If the coyotes didn’t believe this guy had a high ceiling they wouldn’t have signed him, a centre playing basically third line minutes and not really producing in terms of points, to a contract worth 2.8 mil/ year. That is, unless they were sure of either; his potential in the next 2 seasons to rise and be worth at least that of his contract, or that they could get quality assets from another team for him via trade. Assuming that they dont believe that the other GMs are idiots and have scouted him alot before making a move, then they also believe he is a good and possibly a highly valuable player, that just isnt working out in that market. The fact that they had 10 suitors for him, and 3 serious offers, according to pierre lebrun (i think), shows that there is huge potential for this guy. Also phoenix has squandered a number of top ten first round picks. Turris is young and, from his post practice interview, seems super stoked to be in a new place where hockey is a big deal. This has the possibility to be a huge pickup for the franchise going forward.
What really confuses me...
Is that everyone here seems so shocked that this trade was made. I totally saw this coming. I am just shocked that it took this long. By no way am I the most astute hockey afficiando, but I totally saw this coming – weeks ago. Murray made it quite clear that he was seriously interested in Turris, and I think what we paid is par by league standards.
Of course this move will be a tattoo of “egg on face” for BM, should it turn out to be a flop, but the risk was necessary. I dont think he is finished yet. We are not an expantion team, floundering, but going through a rebuild. From what I have learned here, we are ahead of schedule, and could be in a position to make a charge over the playoff hump. So, I expect a move to be made to acquire a “name brand” player.
Guess it wont be Chris Kelly now – but I did read in the paper that Elliot was being considered a Vezina candidate. If only we could get him for Anderson.
http://watch.tsn.ca/clip588437#clip588437
There’s some Turris practice vid there and around the 1:40ish mark Kyle makes a gorgeous move to get around Lee I think
No offence, but it's Brian Lee... in practice.
Let’s not get too excited yet. ;)
by sensory_experience on Dec 20, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I will definitely miss Rundblad
Because I think his capabilities are going to shine when he hits the prime of his career.
After seeing these videos of Turris though I’m not as worried:
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8474068&fr=false
Also judging by the amount of times he scores off of drop passes we should just park him permanently behind Spezza :D
We shall see tonight.
It's interesting that he's a center who's a big time shooter
Having a wing like Foligno to feed him might be really nice.
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