Now that we have Turris...
So we have Kyle Turris now... haha. Awesome
Looking at the depth chart down the middle, it seems like Mr. Turris or Regin will be holding down the fort at the second line centre position for the remainder of the year, barring injury. ( knock on wood for Regin's glass shoulders)
I for one, am okay with this. Hopefully Turris will be able to step into the #2 centre spot, and provide a bigger offensive spark than Regin is capable of. Regin has been largely unspectacular, yet defensively reliable, so he's not causing any problems for us in the 2 spot should he get some minutes there.
Next year? Unless Spezza is gone, Regin, Turris, DaCosta, Zibanejad, Smith, Konopka and Winchester will be the centres that are battling for the remaining 3 centre positions on the NHL roster.
Konopka and Winchester are UFAs next summer, while Regin and DaCosta are both RFAs. I feel like Winchester will be let go, and Konopka might be asked to stick around to provide some gristle, and for his general positive attitude in the the locker room. I can't imagine that we would let either of the RFAs go without a fight, so that leads me to believe that they will either be re-signed on short term deals, or they will be traded before draft day. However, I just don't think there's room on the NHL lineup for either of them as centres, since they aren't physical enough to play on the bottom two lines. Regin could be converted to a winger, and DaCosta could still use some seasoning in the AHL, so that leaves us with the following down the middle next year:
Spezza, Turris, Zibanejad, Smith and Regin converted to a winger. Spare: Somebody else... Winch/Konopka/ Jim O'Brien.
So, what's next?
Solid pipeline of centres? CHECK (Spezza, Turris, Regin, DaCosta, Smith, O'Brien/ Winch, Zibanejad with Pageau and Prince in 2-3 years)
Good amount of potential top-6 wingers developing over the next few years? CHECK ( Daugavins, Filatov, Noesen, Puempel, Stone, Petersson, Silfverberg) Surely one of them will be able to step in for our departed Alfie when he hangs up the skates for good. ( It hurts to write this...) I'm not saying they'll be as good immediately, or be able to grow as fierce of a moustache, but they should be able to provide some offense on one of the top two lines.
Strong 2nd and 3rd pairing defensemen coming up in the next few years? CHECK ( Borocop, Wierchoch, Gryba and Claesson are close, with Fransoo being ready in 3 years or so) There was a post a while ago talking about our so called depth at defense, and with David Rundblad gone, I would go as far as saying that our defensive depth needs the most work, and should be a target for the upcoming 1st round of the draft ( and ensuing rounds for that matter)
KING LEHNER??? CHECK. Nuff said. But we do need somebody else to fill his role in Bingo next year when he graduates to the big club. Could be another target for the draft.
We currently sit 19th overall in the league, giving us the 11th overall draft pick in the upcoming draft. 10 of the top 20 ranked players are defenseman according to Craig Button's analysis on TSN (It was the most recent analysis I could find), so it's safe to say that our targets could be set on finding a replacement for Rundblad when the draft rolls around in June.
Overall, I'm liking the looks of the organization with the Turris-Rundblad trade. I was hesitant to like the trade at first, but as of right now, the Sens will still have 7 picks in the 2012 draft and have more than enough opportunities to build our defensive depth and find a solid goalie prospect. Bryan Murray has not halted the Senate Reform in any way, I think he might have even been looking ahead, and noticing that there isn't a star centre within reach on draft day. Leveraging the skill set of a potential star defenseman for a potential star forward is more of a lateral move for our Senate Reform than anything, and is definitely not a step backwards.
In the short term, it's definitely a win for the Senators, because BM addressed a position that was a glaring weakness on the team by trading away a player that was causing us more harm than benefit on a nightly basis.
Short Term= We won this trade, hands down.... Long term? Only time will tell.
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That's a good breakdown.
I think the clincher is that this draft is full of defencemen, while number 2 centers are something we’ve struggled with. Having Regin, Da Costa, Zibanejad and Turris battling it out for that spot isn’t a bad thing. I do think it means we need to move some pieces or figure out what to do with them so we have two good lines rather than 1 good line and multiple 3/4 lines.
Soon, Murray’s going to have to package some guys up and trade for a proven top 6 winger (before next year). Trade quantity for quality.
Absolutely, that's why it hasn't happened already.
Nevertheless, it is necessary if we want to a) contend, b) get something back for guys we don’t have room for
by Sports Fan! on Dec 18, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Now I guess at least one of Carkner and Lee will be here next year...
It is amazing how trading one defenceman totally changes our perception on our depth! Suddenly, Karlsson, Cowen and Phillips are the only 3 we can count on being around next year. I hope Wiercioch develops into a 2nd pairing defenceman, because we need that!
Disappointing though, to see Rundblad gone so soon after all that hype.
Ottawa's depth is great, like you describe
But it’s impossible to know which of those prospects will ever amount to good pro players, let alone good NHL players. Having a lot of them certainly improves the Senators’ chances at finding some that can contribute, but patience is definitely a virtue when it comes to prospects.
Look at two of Ottawa’s best rookies this season: Stéphane Da Costa and Colin Greening. They are 22 and 25, respectively, and we’re still giving Da Costa time to develop in the AHL. It’s hard to imagine some of the players you listed as becoming real true contributors to any Senators’ success within three years of being drafted.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 18, 2011 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Yes, well said Peter
I’m warming up to the idea of Turris. Well rounded overview done here. We have lots of 6th and 7th dmen depth, and need to add more depth on the shutdown side of things… and as we have seen, dmen don’t arrive instantly.
Also goaltender depth is urgently required. Most teams have two and some have three legitimate goalie prospects and we have one.
It’s great to see that it’s going to be REALLY hard to make this team next year because there are so many possibilities.
I am warming up to the idea of the trade, but it still feels like too much. I get that Rundblad and a 2nd was the best Phoenix was going to get for Turris, but is Turris the best Ottawa could have received for Rundblad and a 2nd? I wonder if there were better deals to be made for that bounty. Who knows, maybe Turris will flourish in Ottawa.
I feel like most teams don't give up top center prospects, so Turris was probably the best Ottawa could have done
He was only available because of his rift with management.
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Regarde...
Even if you have a package of Rundblad and a 2nd, that does not mean that every team will trade the player you want. I would say that Turris was the only young, potential 2nd line center we could get. Let’s look and see who else gets traded in this position this year and for how much. Then, we could have a better understanding.
by Bikini Cowboy on Dec 21, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
OOPS
I just saw what Mark wrote. I second his opinion.
by Bikini Cowboy on Dec 21, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

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