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Should Mika Zibanejad be putting on the famous Tre Kronor? (Photo by Patrick McDermott/Getty Images)

As many in Canada begin to obsess over a hockey tournament for kids aged 19 and under, I can't help but think that Mika Zibanejad would be better served staying in the Elitserien. The tournament runs from 26 December to 5 January in Alberta. Djurgarden's next seven games are on the 22nd, 26th, 28th, 30th, 5th, 7th and 10th. Should Sweden make the gold medal (or bronze medal) game, Zibanejad will likely miss the first six games. Depending on the travel and fatigue, he might miss a seventh game on the 10th as well.

When Zibanejad went back to Sweden, he struggled to get on the score sheet for the first few weeks before finally getting into a groove. In his first six games in the Elitserien this season, he had one point in six games, but he had five points in the last seven. Travelling back to Canada and playing with a whole new set of teammates and then coming back again to Sweden could slow his development down. In addition, wouldn't playing in the Elitserien against grown men be better for his development as an NHL player next year than playing against kids?

This situation is a little similar to that of Robin Lehner last year. He wasn't getting a lot of games, and then he left the AHL to play for Sweden and returned to spend the majority of the season as a backup. Were it not for Barry Brust struggling in the playoffs, it really could have been a wasted year of development for Lehner last season. It was a stop and start season for Lehner and it could be similar for Zibanejad.

Zibanejad won't be the only Senator at the tournament. Mark Stone will play for Canada and Shane Prince might play for the Americans, but both are currently only playing against junior players right now. Fredrik Claesson is also leaving Djurgarden, but at least he has played there the whole season and he is a few years from the NHL anyway.

The Under 20 World Championships is a good tournament though I believe it is hyped far too much and overrated. The competition has to be inferior to that of the Elitserien. This is not to say that Zibanejad's season will be ruined, but doesn't it make more sense for him to be playing for Djurgarden?

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While I agree that the tournament could be disruptive to the roll Zibanejad is on

I think that playing against some less skilled competition could also be good for him to continue to develop the confidence he has recently gained. It has been a while since Zibanejad has played against competition that he has the potential to dominate against. Not to mention that he will play a very important role on the team and will be counted on for leadership on that team.
Yes there is a downside to him playing in the tournament, however, there is also an upside that shouldn’t be discounted. Having the opportunity to compete for a championship in a short period of time in sudden death games can be an invaluable experience that can be drawn upon later in his career.
As far a Lehner’s experience goes, he was also hurt for much of the early part of the season and struggled to gain mid-season form as a result of that. I wouldn’t blame Lehner’s lack of playing time when he returned from the World Junior championship solely on the fact that he played in the tournament. Brust was playing brilliantly in goal at the time and that helped to determine Lehner’s diminished role as well.

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by havey03 on Dec 15, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

These are all good points. There are certainly some positives. Zibanejad himself would probably enjoy showcasing himself as well.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What's best

It’s really hard to say what’s best for Z’jad. If he is worthy of his draft selection, he should be dominant in the World Juniors.

From what I saw of him, he needs to learn to play offensively, whereas most gifted scorers need to learn what he’s already good at… the defensive side of the game. He seemed to be deathly afraid of making a mistake and being out of position while he was here.

So I’d say he’d be better off dominating offensively at the WJC if he can. I judged that he would have been better off this year playing the North American game rather than the Swedish Elite sideways less physical style that they are known for, but he chose the comfortable Swedish game that he knows so well.

Also, purely on a selfish level, I just want to see him play.

by Marvellous on Dec 15, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

He didn't choose comfortable anything

He isn’t eligible for the AHL and Ottawa didn’t feel he was NHL ready. Where else could he play?

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 1:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's a very good point

I do want to see some offence from him. Murray drafted him 6th because he saw offensive potential there along with defensive responsibility. Playing in the SEL and NHL, he hasn’t scored much, and it’s important for him to rack up some points rather than play a checking role.

by Sports Fan! on Dec 15, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Let him play

By all accounts, Sweden’s team won’t be all that strong this year, and Zibanejad is expected to play a starring role. Leading your national team in a high-pressure tournament where every game is extremely important? I can’t see how that would hinder his development. And while some of the other countries might represent weaker competition than Z-bad regularly sees in the SEL, you could hardly say that about top teams like Canada, the U.S., Finland, and Russia. Plus, the tournament is being played in Alberta, and therefore on NHL-sized ice.

by Andy Dax on Dec 15, 2011 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

I think an Elitserien club would beat a Canadian team of 17-19 year olds

The Canadians are more talented sure, but they are too young to provide the same competition.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting

Set it up, take bets. I’ll hold the $!

I bet it’d be closer than you may think. Much of it I believe would depend on olympic ice vs NA ice.

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by havey03 on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Where exactly is Kelly going to play on this team?

not sure where they will put him, but I’d play him 3rd or 4th line centre, as well as on the penalty kill.

by SBS138 on Dec 15, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Where would Zack Smith play then?

Kelly is going to put up great offensive numbers playing on a great team and he will probably get $3 to $3.5 million a year for it.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't see a situation where Chris Kelly comes back

We traded him for assets because we had a younger, cheaper version of him in Zack Smith. In short, as much as we love him, his role has been filled. There’s no room at the inn.

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Dec 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to say

It’s hard to say what teams will be willing to pay for Kelly. If he continues on the pace he is on and scores 30 goals, yes, some idiot GM will give him $3 million, but if he tails off as expected, it’s hard to say.

There is room on this team for Kelly if he comes in at a reasonable rate. We can always a good defensive player with some offensive upside, since our GA is where it is.

by Marvellous on Dec 16, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he's due for a raise

Seing him with like a dozen goals already in Boston, and wearing an A, I wish we’d gotten more for him now!

by Sports Fan! on Dec 15, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Let him play.

He’ll have many seasons to play professionally from now on. This is (I believe) one of the last time he’ll be able to. The kid should relish the chance to represent his country, and I wouldn’t want to take that away from him.

by The Tif on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

Okay the votes show I am a bit crazy ;)

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

I want to take my vote back

Just so you aren’t alone in your vote…

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks man

*cries *

:(

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see how playing hockey against different styles can be bad

Jared Cowen played in the WJCs and he’s turning out all right.

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's irrelevant

Cowen increased the level of his competition by playing in it. Zibanejad would not. Also, a player turning out okay doesn’t mean the alternative isn’t better.

I am also not particularly sure why all the Swedish clubs allow this. They only have him for a year to begin with.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't feel that it's irrelevant

I also don’t feel that Cowen increased the level of his competition in his last year. He was dominating the WHL at that point. And while the SEL is obviously better competition than the WHL, I still don’t see how exposing Mikachu to different styles of play is going to hurt his development.

The tournament is almost akin to training camp when I think about it. New linemates, new coach, and new competition for a short period of time before you return to your regular season team.

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t think Cowen played against better players in U20 world championships than staying in WHL for those 2 weeks?

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoops, I misunderstood you

I meant Cowen’s individual level of competition, not his opponents’. I’d have to agree that he probably faced better players in the tournament.

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

WJC

It would be great to see Stone, Prince and Zibanejad each lead their team to a medal in the tournament. I’d personally prefer Canada-Sweden-USA, but we’ll see.

by DW19 on Dec 15, 2011 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Has anyone seen this?

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

That has to be a Photoshop

Right?

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure. Looks real to me, ha.

I say it on Chesnokov’s twitter the other day and he got it from some other guy.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Try this link

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh FFS

Just tell us what it is …

Is this a nasty (but pretty funny) prank?

by Tom Camps on Dec 15, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It was there, now it's gone

It was a screenshot of Luongo being interviewed. His shirt had the letters “ucks” on it, and there was a mic with an “S” held in just the right way in front of it.

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Still there for me. :/

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And more funnies

From Pension Plan Puppets

Check out this player’s bio in a New England men’s hockey league

Bio:
PLAYER KICKED OUT OF LEAGUE FOR DEFECATING IN OPPONENT’S GLOVE FOLLOWING A FIGHT ON THE ICE.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

I think international play is extremely valuable

It’s an honour to represent your country, and the experience of competing at that high of a level can’t be understated.

Even if the level of hockey at the WJCs is lower than the SEL, I think playing on North American ice, against a bunch of future NHLers, is a very, very worthwhile experience, and is better for him than staying in Sweden. The few weeks he misses of SEL hockey won’t hinder his development. But I do think going to the WJCs can advance a player’s development, for sure.

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by DarrenM on Dec 15, 2011 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, what witty and unprecedented commentary

I mean com’mon could there be an easier target than Cherry? Making fun of a 77 year old man is not difficult and shouldn’t be gratifying. One thing you can say for Grapes though is he still has more Cup rings than Vancouver.

by ojc on Dec 15, 2011 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

Distinction necessary

Making fun of 77 year old man struggling to make it up some stairs makes you an asshole.

A 77 year old bigot who is given taxpayer money to wear a loud jacket, stand on a soapbox, and yell nonsense? Giv’er. Cherry is a controversial public figure, and whatever his good traits (and he has them), he’s a perfectly appropriate object of criticism or satire.

by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 16, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if the irony was intended...

But grapes doesn’t have any cup rings.

by SuckItTrebek on Dec 16, 2011 8:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

anytime I think of present/future stars of our team representing their country...

I think of this….

"I couldn't score in a brothel...couldn't finish a sandwich"
- Joe Corvo

by MadCash on Dec 15, 2011 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

damn you Safari.

it’s Hasek tearing his ‘adductor’ in ’06…

"I couldn't score in a brothel...couldn't finish a sandwich"
- Joe Corvo

by MadCash on Dec 15, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Hasek

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 16, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

embarrassing...

"I couldn't score in a brothel...couldn't finish a sandwich"
- Joe Corvo

by MadCash on Dec 15, 2011 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

30 odd games in to the season

I’ve decided that Zibanejad definitely could have stuck with the big club. Especially in lieu of Da Costa.

It’s easy. Look at each goal Zibanejad scored in the preseason. Goal scorers goals, every one of ’em, even including his disallowed goal. I mean, he led the preseason team in goal scoring, and he competed physically.

Ottawa certainly wouldn’t have been worse off with Da Costa in Binghamton and Zibanejad with Alfie.

by LeTigre on Dec 16, 2011 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

We'll see

So far with Z’jad we’re hoping but he has not shown too many indications that he can or will score goals at the NHL level. He’s a prospect like several others. Our management is hoping that we didn’t make a big mistake bypassing Coutourier in favour of the Swede.

We’ll see how he develops. In the meantime we should keep setting ourselves up with several other options at the #2 Center position, as we can never have enough top six talent.

It’ll be interesting to see how Z’jad fares in the WJC.

by Marvellous on Dec 16, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

He showed four ‘indications’ in the preseason. More than any other Senator. All goal scorers goals.

Filatov was the one that you can use the ‘no indication’ line on… not Zibanejad.

by LeTigre on Dec 16, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Vancouver fans

….suck.

That is all. If you had to read their insipid commentary during the last Sens-Nucks game on HFBoards, you’d quickly realize they are one of the most uneducated in hockey fanbases in the country.

Not to mention, the riots…

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 16, 2011 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

It's that sense of entitlement

Plus the fact that their team is a bunch of whiny diving cheapshot artists. I don’t like Montreal fans, but the team is at least a skilled team that when you lose you go “it was a good game.” Vancouver? I hate that team.

by The Tif on Dec 16, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That's pretty much any HF Board, I find.

I read Pass It to Bulis, which is an excellent Canucks blog. I’m still not a big fan of the team, but PITB is too good to pass up.

by Pmoron on Dec 16, 2011 12:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't really read PITB much

but I like Mooney’s work over at Puck Daddy.

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by DarrenM on Dec 16, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

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