Senators put up a fight but lose 5-2 to the Bruins

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2011 10:54 PM EST in Ottawa Senators game recaps

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The game started brightly for the Senators, with Ottawa getting the bulk of the scoring chances and outshooting Boston 10-2 early in the first period. Clearly feeling this was an unacceptable sequence of events, Matt Carkner decided to fight Milan Lucic. 24 seconds later Boston took the lead through Rick Peverley.

Ottawa didn't go away though and ended up tying the game in the second period through Daniel Alfredsson after a nice setup by Jason Spezza. Boston retook the lead on a goal by notorious bad guy Chris Kelly midway through the second after Matt Carkner broke his stick and David Rundblad couldn't contain Kelly.

The game was over as a contest early in the third period with Boston scoring goals on two breakaways, the first of a Daniel Alfredsson give away and the other with Jesse Winchester some how being the last man back. Jason Spezza pulled a goal back late in the game, but Craig Anderson helped kill any hopes of a miracle come back by allowing Daniel Paille to score from a place he really shouldn't.

In the end the shots were 49-29 to Ottawa, though the Senators had five power plays to zero for Boston. The Bruins have a world class goaltender, the Senators do not. Ottawa outshot Boston 33-24 in 5-on-5 play.

Sens Hero: Jason Spezza
You are probably not aware of this as Spezza has been doing a lot of bad things in the past week, but Spezza now has 7 points in his last 4 games and 12 points in the last 10. This was his 10th multipoint game of the season. He had six shots on the night and looked dangerous all game. Definitely Ottawa's player of the game in my books. At the time of writing, Giggles is also tied for ninth in the NHL in points.

Sens Hero: Daniel Alfredsson
Alfredsson scored the goal that got Ottawa back into the game and was tied with Erik Karlsson with seven shots on the night. His giveaway for the 3-1 goal killed the game, but I have to pick a couple players to be heroes after the team put in such a good performance for the most part.

Sens Zero: Craig Anderson
The second, third and fourth goals he gave up weren't bad goals. The first and fifth one were. Even on the two early third period goals, it is a 2-1 game in the third period, the Senators gave up consecutive breakaways and he allowed a goal on both of them. Total back-breaker. If we are going to credit him for making a save at the right time, then you have to fault him for not coming up with them at the right time.

Sens Killer: Tim Thomas
What can you say about this guy? Ottawa outshot Boston 49-29 but the Senators come away with two goals. He's now 21-8-2 against Ottawa in his career. A lot of his saves were of the spectacular variety, the one that sticks out is the high glove save on Daniel Alfredsson.

Sens Killer: Power play
Boy does this team miss Sergei Gonchar on the power play, going 0 for 5 in nine minutes of power play time. They did get 15 shots on the power play though.

Other Notes

Ottawa had 40+ shots for the second straight night. They outshot Buffalo 44-29 on Tuesday night.
Every Ottawa player had at least one shot on goal tonight.
Jared Cowen led the way for Ottawa with 27:06 of ice time. Nick Folgino led all Ottawa forwards with 20:05.
Tonight was the first time Peter Regin has been on the ice for a goal against.

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Disagree on the second Paille goal

I actually thought it was a pretty good shot by Paille. I find Anderson was weak on both breakaways, over commited on the Bergeron goal, was a little slow on the first Paille goal.

by I Still Miss Hossa!!! on Dec 14, 2011 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Second breakaway maybe

He didn’t have time to come out on the Bergeron goal (because it started suddenly and too close to our net) so he wasn’t moving backwards, which inhibits a goalie’s lateral movement. Basically, he was stuck flat-footed. And that’s definitely not on him.

The second one was kinda weak though, I agree.

by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 15, 2011 7:36 AM EST up reply actions

I'm glad people are coming around to my thinking re:Anderson

I’ve been ragging on him all season for sub-par play, and people are finally starting to agree with me.

At a certain point you can’t make any more excuses.

by TheGuineaPig on Dec 14, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions

Does this mean you will make me a smoothie?

If so, I want mango.

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by Adnan on Dec 14, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions

He's definitely not the super-goalie he was last season.

But he gets hung out to dry several times a game, too. I guess I don’t feel the need to jump on the guy for a weak game or two (or more, I know). He’s good enough that he’s not sending us scrambling for proper goaltending for the first time since Hasek, and that in and of itself earns a lot of rope from me. He can clearly win games, otherwise we wouldn’t be in a playoff spot. Getting lit up behind a D core that was probably getting conceived around the time Neil Brady was opening scoring for the franchise is too be expected – that Anderson has bailed them out as much as he has gotten burned on their mistakes needs to be noted as well.

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by Johnny_Spectacular on Dec 14, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions

I don't agree at all actually.

Granted I could only catch bits and pieces of the game but Boston has world class defense, and we… yeah… When you have guys the size of the Bruins, your goalie is ALWAYS going to look good. If Thomas had our defense there is no way in unholy hell he keeps his numbers up.
It’s absolutely ridiculous to expect turnovers to stay out of your own net.

by Pmoron on Dec 14, 2011 11:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

The bruins low GAA is more a product of Tim Thomas than Boston’s D.

Most people already know this..

by Mikol on Dec 14, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions

There are a lot of people who think that, sure.

Sorry, but I think it’s absolutely ridiculous. He’s a good goalie but his numbers aren’t sustainable without a great defensive corps. If you separate the two you get a shootout. Why don’t you look up shootout SV% for Anderson and Thomas?

by Pmoron on Dec 15, 2011 12:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

His last 4 seasons

Sure he’s had Chara but I’d hardly call Ference and the rest even top 10 in terms of 2-6.
Timmy is the real deal. Late-bloomer and all….he’s outstanding. Even his “bad year” in 09 his numbers were still significantly better than the majority of other ’tenders.

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by MadCash on Dec 15, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions

That's fine.

However the Bruins are a huge team that do a very good job of keeping shots to the outside and give very little time in front of the net. Chara is the strongest player in the league and they have Lucic, Thornton, Boychuk and Horton, who all do a really good job of jumping back to clear the crease.
The biggest point I was making is that if Anderson was playing behind those guys, his numbers would be much higher and Thomas’ numbers much lower being behind our guys. I mean it feels like we’re averaging 2 breakaways against us per game.
My impression would be that the loss had more to do with Kuba and Gonchar being out (maybe Michalek) than Anderson sucking.
We also have to remember that he’s being paid roughly 3.18 million/year.
Lastly, while it’s been fun flirting with a playoff spot, Anderson standing on his head to keep us there really does nothing for the rebuild long-term.
I hope this clears up what I’m trying to say a little better.

by Pmoron on Dec 15, 2011 5:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

I love Tim Thomas

He is my favorite player that isn’t a Senator. He’s a first ballot HOFer, the walking definition of perseverance, and his play last year was amongst the greatest performances of all time. His story is gonna make a great Disney movie.

That being said, you’re severely underrating Boston’s D and defensive system. Up and down that roster they feature a lot of very good two-way players like Bergeron, Kreiji and Lucic on top of very solid D-men in McQuaid and, who I think is one of the most underrated D-men in the league, Dennis Seidenberg.

Tim excels in that system because he knows his guys are there to clean up the loose stuff around him. It lets him play his aggressive, flippy-floppy style.

PS I heart Thomas.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

I’m not sure I would agree with the first ballot HOFer bit. He has been great, but he will definitely be penalized if he doesn’t end up putting in 10 years in the NHL. He’s currently at 7 full-time years in the NHL, of which only 1 he has played more than 60 games. Don’t get me wrong, he has been superb in his time in the NHL, but he would need to put up 2 or 3 more amazing seasons to even be considered in the conversation.

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by modsuperstar on Dec 15, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions

Dude, he broke nearly every goalie record for season play. That, combined with his feel-good story (remember the voters are journalists who are human), will punch his ticket to the Hall incredibly fast.

Multiple Vezina-winner, multiple nominee, Conn Smythe, Stanley Cup ring, individual records…He’s as good a lock as there ever was.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions

I don't know about that

As others have pointed out, he’s had a pretty short career.

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions

What do you think he'd need to do?

Another cup? A Vezina? Or just play a bunch of seasons?

by The Tif on Dec 15, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions

Pfft, beats me

I would imagine any other piece of major hardware would probably end the debate.

I don’t think he belongs in the HOF personally. The Hall of Very Good? Yes. But I think he compares with Chris Osgood. I look at the goalies in the Hall of Fame, and that’s some seriously lofty comparisons.

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

Well put. You've said it better than I ever could.

The only thing I would disagree with is the HOF. He hasn’t done it long enough to be in the running for me (I think he’s played 200 NHL games). If a guy like Osgood (3 Cups, 401 wins, 10th best playoff SV%, 17 yr career) isn’t in the running then I don’t think Thomas would be.

by Pmoron on Dec 15, 2011 12:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

HOF is subjective

…and it isn’t necessarily based on stats but what the writers see. In Osgood’s case, mainly writers believe, fairly or not, that he was a product of a great Detroit system.

In the case of Thomas, most writers believe they’re witnessing the greatest goalie since Frank Mahovolich. He’s first ballot on his first year of eligibility. He’s too good a story.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

Bruins have allowed 31.6 shots per game, Ottawa 31.5

Goaltending is the main difference here.

I remember watching the playoff series against Montéal last year and the Bruins defence was absolutely terrible. Give away after give away. Thomas stole them the cup last year.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions

Yes, but of those shots...

…how many are actual goal-scoring opportunities? I believe the Sens, and their extremely porous defence, give up far, far more prime scoring chances than any team in the league.

How many breakaways, two-on-ones, etc. do you see other teams give up as consistently as the Sens do?

Any average goalie (and Anderson is average, hence why he is paid $3million a year) is going to look terrible behind this patchwork system.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions

I don't watch other teams consistently

But I do see the Sens get 2 on 1s and breakaways and such on other teams.

My gut feeling is that most goalies stop them more frequently than our guy. But yeah I can’t prove it.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 1:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

And Anderson had a .933 in his only NHL playoff series

which included a 51 save win over the Sharks. And he was playing behind a terrible Avs team.

by Pmoron on Dec 15, 2011 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I think Anderson is a playoff goalie

I think he’s like a Leclaire in that sense. Come playoff time, he amps himself to another level.

Pretty much the opposite of Luongo.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions

Haha. Poor ol' Lu.

Well his sample size is small, not unlike LeClaire. I would throw out the Osgood comparison as well; his play was much better with some pressure on.

by Pmoron on Dec 15, 2011 5:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

This isn't true

First off, EV Sv% is mostly team independent, and Thomas has put up fantastic numbers there.

Also, Alan Ryder’s 2010-11 NHL Review just came out, and by his (mathematical) analysis, the Bruins allowed slightly harder shots than average.

by TheGuineaPig on Dec 15, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions

Consistency is the problem

Anderson has certainly had some poor moments, but he has also had some good ones. Just picking a recent example, the Sens wouldn’t have beaten Buffalo without some of the big saves that Anderson made to keep them in the game.

He could and hopefully will do better, but so far I am only mildly disappointed in his play. For me the big thing that he needs to do is play more consistency.

by DW19 on Dec 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions

I disagree on Anderson being a zero

I was at the game and in the Ottawa end and I don’t think he can be faulted on any goal.

It would have been nice if he could have stopped the first one but Peverly was in the high slot and was able to walk in…made a great shot and beat Anderson clean. Anderson seemed to be on top of his crease and in a good position.

The second goal I don’t actually know about…seemed like maybe a soft rebound but I thought it was a weird fluttering puck and Kelly was all alone to just dump it into the net.

Bergeron made some sick moves on his breakaway and most goalies would have been burned like Anderson…Paille made a nice deke and went 5 hole >> goalie or shooter always look bad on 5 hole plays…last one Paille was skating in from his own blue line before blasting it top shelf. If anything Cowen could have tried to play the shooter at least a little.

Ya, always like the reviews but totally disagree on the Anderson critique tonight.

by OD99 on Dec 14, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions

Quote of the night:

Colin Greening: Erhoff of all people decided to drop ‘em with me, and I was honestly about to say, "Like, listen, I’m not gonna fight you, I know who you are, you make like 10 million bucks a year!"

At around 5:05

by Bridges16 on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 AM EST reply actions

Say what now?

Where can you see this? Some vid from the Sabres game?

by OD99 on Dec 15, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions

Whoops!

My bad…I meant to add the link! Here it is: Greening Interview

by Bridges16 on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions

Anyone else feel like we're exactly where we want to be?

Cowen is putting in 25+ minutes a night, Karlsson is continuing to evolve into Mike Green, Regin and Foligno are starting to look like they could be who we want them to be, the veteran players are playing well, and some very good role players are coming out of the woodwork.

Sure the goaltending has been so-so, some of the youngsters make youngster mistakes, etc. But serioulsy, we’re flirting enough with the playoffs to keep games interesting and the team seems to be developing a solid new core with a new attitude.

So we’re doing exactly what we were hoping to do.

Now we just need to tank near the end of the season (due to a bunch of unfortunate coincidences and minor injuries), and we’ll be all set.

by RogerTheShrubber on Dec 15, 2011 7:46 AM EST reply actions

yeah I have been pleased with everything except goaltending

The players seem to be developing nicely.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 8:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Except Rundblad, who is obviously regressing out there. I think his confidence is shot. He looks afraid to make mistakes when he has the puck and he makes junior-level mistakes when he doesn’t have it.

Coach KK needs to fix him.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions

I have been very happy with the team's performance this year.

They have exceeded expectations of many, the guys are playing with heart and accountability. I am loving what I am seeing and am so excited for the ride!

by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 15, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions

Frankly, I'm not too concerned with tanking.

Murray has made good picks later on – Karlsson, Rundblad in Ottawa, as well as Getzlaf and Perry in Anaheim. I’m enjoying watching a competitive team, and while Nail/Forsberg would be great, I’m confident Murray can steal someone later too.

by The Tif on Dec 15, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions

Je l'agree

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions

Only one regret

That there isn’t a stand out, absolute lock stud on the horizon. Mikachu not withstanding and Kid Karlsson included, we don’t have anyone on the horizon who is obviously Tavares/Stamkos/Hugent-Hopkins good that I can see who will be the next Alfie. Someone who sets the pace, carries the team, leads with a will to win and who seems to attract the puck and put it in the net at will.

Mikachu holds some promise, as do a few others, but there isn’t an obvious elite star. There are other ways to get them, I suppose, when the time is right, but replacing first Alfie and then Spezza and Michalek is going to take some doing, and we need more of them, not just straight replacements.

by Be_rad on Dec 15, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions

I can agree with that. We do need another all star forward.

Hopefully Silverberg and Mikachu fit that bill. Or Stone etc. We’ve got some crazy talent in the pipeline, and it’s just a matter of capitalizing on that.

by The Tif on Dec 15, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah, but those guys are hard to come by

Hopefully we can develop one, but in the interim, we’ll have to let Spezza be that guy.

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions

Not exactly on course

We gave Anderson a REALLY long contract in the hopes he would shine. Our defence lead by fifth forward par excellence Karlsson is learning to play defence.

Anderson looked like he was badly out of position on some of the goals I saw yesterday. A really good goalie is always in position, so he gets more so called “luck”, which is really skill.

Albeit that the Bruins generally expose all the things that are missing as they regularly handle us with relative ease. I wouldn’t say we are right where we want to be with goaltending, but the rebuild has alot of things going in the right direction.

If Michalek is out for a while we will see how precious little depth we have at the top six level, but that is normal for a team that is rebuilding. There is not alot of immediate help coming in this upcoming draft, except at the very top… although there is some tremendous defensive depth available.

It’s going to take some very smart manoeuvring to move us into contention sooner rather than later.

It’d be interesting to look at other team’s second line centers to see how many teams struggle like Hell like us to find one.

Teams like the Penguins sucked for a very long time to acquire the top line players they did in the draft.

by Marvellous on Dec 15, 2011 9:06 AM EST reply actions

Anderson didn't play that poorly

I don’t get why everyone is saying Anderson played that poorly. Sure maybe he should’ve stopped the second breakaway, but the other goals were what? A rebound Rundblad should’ve stopped Kelly from banging in, a monstrous deke on a breakaway, a sick snipe by Peverly (if you look at it in slowmotion, he looks like he’s going to shoot glove side, but ends up shooting high blocker, sold it REALLY well, no goalie would’ve stopped that). Anderson is ten times any goalie the last two seasons, I’m grateful he’s in nets. We expect him to make EVERY save and that’s hard when he’s getting hung out to dry by our defense.

by pmedow on Dec 15, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions

Anderson is not ten times any goalie, let any Senator goalie

He’s playing about as well as Elliott was last year.

Except somehow he’s evading criticism.

by TheGuineaPig on Dec 15, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions

I really don't agree

He’s playing much better than Elliott. He’s letting in some (yes, some) soft goals, but he’s making big saves as well. Elliott was letting in far more soft goals, and just wasn’t making the big saves either.

by B_T on Dec 15, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions

I'm with you on this

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by Mark Parisi on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions

That simply can't be true

Selective memory, or something, because Anderson and Elliot are making saves at a nearly identical rate.

I don’t see how Elliott could’ve been letting in more softies, plus making no “big” saves, yet still be letting in goals at the same rate.

What it comes down to is essentially this: people are praising Anderson more than Elliott because the Sens are scoring more goals now than last year.

by TheGuineaPig on Dec 15, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions

This sounds about right to me.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions

Some people on Reddit noted that with his mustache, Alfie looks like Walter White

Now I can’t unsee it.

by TheGuineaPig on Dec 15, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions

Shocking that Rundblad wasn't given a zero...

Dude is the definition of defensive liability out there, consistently being at fault for one or two goals a game. Tonight it was the Kelly goal and the Paille breakaway. Both resulting from poor decisions.

A trip to the AHL looms for Adnan’s favorite rookie Swede…

I’m not going to fault Anderson because I think the play of the guys in front of him are wearing him down. That being said, he’s not playing as good as he was last year but so are a lot of the “good goalies” from last year.

Not only that, I also blame B Murda for picking up a lousy back-up in Alex Auld. One the coaching staff has so little faith in that we have to play Anderson on back-to-backs (and most likely Friday too).

Having a guy like Mathieu Garon would be really useful to give Anderson a break and work his way back up to 2010 levels of play. Garon, is the kind of goalie who could have played about 3 or 4 games in a row…

Auld is to us what Lalime was to the Sabres the last couple of years…

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 11:54 AM EST reply actions

Rundblad doesn't look as confident these days

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him sent down, though I don’t think that would be the right move with the train wreck Binghamton is right now.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions

Better down there than in the press box. I can’t believe his play is making miss Kuba. KUBA!

For that alone, Rundblad goes to my “Eternal Zero” list.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions

Kuba has been good all season.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions

Kuba had finally got his form back after breaking his leg

And then he’s out again. It’s a shame – he was becoming a good team with Karlsson.

by The Tif on Dec 15, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions

Binghamton might improve with Rundblad in the line-up and avoid being such a train wreck.

by DW19 on Dec 15, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

Good point.

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by Adnan on Dec 15, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions

I've always found it fascinating the effect the relationship between backup and starter make.

Elliott was good when he was a backup fighting for ice time, but took a huge dive when he was the starter. Halak was great when he was duelling with Price, struggled when he was #1 in St. Louis, and now both are much better again this year.
Maybe that’s the only issue with Andy (if there is one)? Last year he was fighting for a contract and now he’s got Auld playing like crap behind him and he’s expected to carry the team. In a way he has done it, considering all of our wins have come with Andy in net.

by Pmoron on Dec 15, 2011 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Disagree with Anderson as a Zero

He made some huge saves in the 2nd to keep them in the game. The negatives listed are fair, but I think the positives were completely ignored and the net between then is “not a zero”

by B_T on Dec 15, 2011 1:30 PM EST reply actions

There are so many things that need to be fixed on the team right now. I rank goaltending like 4th from the bottom.

In fact, I think if the defense was to improve even slightly and stop with at least the brain farts, Anderson’s play would greatly improve. I think he’s a little shell-shocked behind this team right now.

by The Dutch Treat on Dec 15, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions

they are who they are..

Sens fans should be very happy with where they are at-They could have really sucked. new coach -lot of young players and a so so goalie-no real goal scorer now-I mean they have done pretty well. Its odd that Elliot is having a career year-why not in Ottawa? Butler looked pretty good last night-lots of shots-moving his feet. They have to get Butler playing like he did last year-they absolutely have to now that Michalek is out. he can do it-he can get hot with some confidence and some ice time. He needs power play time too-there is no one that good on second unit that he cantg get on the pp and start to get chances-gain confidencs and find the net. Moustahce man must find a way to get more out of marlboro man. it can be done. he can score and will get hot if he is giiven the right opportunity-that has alot to do with who is getting him the puck-id have him with Sezza again and give it time to work.

by Marlboro man on Dec 15, 2011 2:18 PM EST reply actions