Senators lose 6-3 to Penguins in relatively uneventful blowout
The Ottawa Senators started strong when Kaspars Daugavins scored 1:19 into the first to take the lead over the Pittsburgh Penguins, but it all went downhill from there. Chris Kunitz scored 37 seconds after Daugavins to tie the game, and the Penguins scored four goals on their first eight shots to take a 4-1 lead before the game was ten minutes old. Craig Anderson was pulled just 9:11 into the game, and although Alex Auld played some decent hockey for the rest of the game, it was all but over at that point.
Sens Zero: Craig Anderson
Earlier this month, Anderson was pulled just 2:25 into the game. On this night, a little longer, but it's always concerning when your starting goaltender allows several goals within the first few minutes of a game. His numbers tonight work out to a .500 SP and a GAA of over 26. On the bright side, Anderson bounced back from his last early-game pulling with three straight wins, so hopefully he does so again.
Sens Zero: Chris Phillips
It might not be fair to saddle Big Rig with a zero tonight, but I'll do it anyway. In the past, when he was paired with Anton Volchenkov, being matched against Sidney Crosby brought out the best in Phillips. Not so tonight. He was on the ice for three of the first four goals Pittsburgh scored, all of which were assisted by Crosby himself. On the first, Phillips gave Crosby all the time in the world to make his pass; he deflected the second into his own net (just bad luck, but still bad); and on the third, he watched Evgeni Malkin pick up a lose puck, skate into the slot, and fire it past Anderson. It just wasn't a great night for Phillips, as he seemed overwhelmed trying to match up against the Penguins' skaters.
Sens Heroes: The third line
Two of Ottawa's three goals came from the third line: Kaspars Daugavins scored the first goal of the game, and Erik Condra scored the final one, and Zack Smith managed one assist on the night. Although Daugavins finished the game +2, the most impressive of these three to me was Condra, who played 15:13 total TOI, including 4:54 SH TOI, which is more short-handed ice time than any other Senator, including defencemen. The third line, and especially Condra, were a huge reason why the Penguins were limited to one powerplay goal in five opportunities.
Sens Killer: Tyler Kennedy
Kennedy (aka Ugly Crosby) had 3P (1G, 2A) on the night,. meaning he's now a point-per-game player in his career when playing the Ottawa Senators: He has 14P (9G, 5A) in 14GP against the Sens. He owns this team.
Honourable Mentions: Alex Auld, Erik Karlsson, Jared Cowen, Nick Foligno
- Auld stopped 30 of 32 shots faced, once again playing his best hockey without knowing he was going to see any ice time; I suggest next time Paul MacLean plans on starting Auld, he avoid telling him until the last possible minute.
- Karlsson, perhaps surprisingly, didn't lead the Senators in overall TOI, but he did lead the team in ES TOI, had one assist, and fired seven shots towards the net (two hit the mark, four were blocked, and one went wide--that one which went wide resulted in Daugavins' game-opening goal). He also finished even in plus-minus, on the ice for just one goal against, often using his speed to compensate for his small stature.
- Cowen scored his second goal of the season and finished even in plus-minus. This kid's got a hell of a shot, and we'd all like to see him use it more. Cowen looked guilty of indecisiveness on the Jared Staal goal, but had he checked Staal, he would have left Tyler Kennedy wide open in the corner; he was stuck between a rock and a hard place, and ended up looking bad out of it. Still, on the whole, a solid game for Cowen once again.
- Foligno notched two assists in the game, the only Senator with a multi-point night. But he still finished -1 overall. But he's now got five points (2G, 3A) in his last five games, moving him up to fifth in team scoring with 12P on the season.
Virtually Unused: Stéphane Da Costa
Heading into the game, MacLean said it was an opportunity to see how Da Costa matched up against much larger competition; apparently, it didn't take MacLean long to see that Da Costa couldn't match up against them, because the Sens' centreman played just 7:23 TOI in the game, 2:37 of which was in the first period. In those seven-plus minutes, Da Costa had one shot on goal and--notably--won both faceoffs he took (Da Costa was the only Senators pivot who won more than half of his draws). It seems like MacLean already had conclusions drawn on the Da Costa file. But not working in Da Costa's favour are his longer-than-usual shifts: In the second, he played two shifts of over a minute (one was 1:08, the other 1:23). Coaches don't often like shifts longer than 40 seconds or so, even if the second one resulted in Cowen's goal.
But hey, at least Da Costa played more than Zenon Konopka, who spent almost as much time in the penalty box (five minutes) as he did on the ice (5:04).
Curious statistic of the night: Powerplay time
Speaking of Konopka, he played more time on the powerplay (57 seconds) than Bobby Butler (40 seconds). I can't imagine a reason why, except perhaps an attempt to use Konopka to generate traffic and chaos in front of Marc-Andre Fleury. If that was the intent, it, unfortunately, didn't work.
Crosby Watch:
Sidney Crosby scored three assists in the game in over 17 minutes TOI. He had two shots on net, and won 18 of 25 faceoffs taken (a 72% winning percentage). So... not bad. The Kid has seven points in three games this season.
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As predicted, I remembered that I really, really hate the Penguins within the first minute of this game.
Also hate Crosby. Now I can ‘hypocrite’ to ‘whiner’, ‘diver’, ‘boring interview’ and ‘extraordinary talent who will rip your beloved team sixteen new ones the moment you make a mistake’.
I’m not even gonna pretend Shannahan will look at a headshot by Sid the Kid™ three games back, but he damn well should.
Although I’m sure he’s ‘not that type of player’…
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by Johnny_Spectacular on Nov 25, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Come on now
It wasn’t a headshot. It was a bullshit play by a player I expect more from, but it’s not even close to a move that should warrant extra discipline. The Sens should have had a power play as a result, but… whatever.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 25, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I fully admit my 'lost to Pens' cranky is showing
And, no, it probably wouldn’t warrant extra discipline either way. But I would argue that another player would be looking at a conversation with Shanny at the very least. An elbow to the head is less dangerous standing still, for sure, but with those elbowpads its still a pretty bad move.
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by Johnny_Spectacular on Nov 25, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, how was that not a headshot?
He elbowed him plain and simple in the face.
If Foligno had done that to Crosby, we’d be hearing non-stop about it in the media.
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by Adnan on Nov 26, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Incase you havent noticed
Its being talked about in the media, ALOT because Foligno did the right thing by airing his opinion of it out loud…..if you think something like that warrants extra discipline then this is ridiculous. This wasn’t remotely similar to a real head shot. Was it wrong and unnecessary? Absolutely. And Crosby got the penalty he deserved for it. If any of the Pens players ran over Anderson/Auld (accidental or not) Id expect some “response” from our players. This wasnt a blindshot or even close to the hits a la Neil, Wolski etc,Ive elbowed my little brother harder than that during fights but to each his own opinion…
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Three game suspension but only in games against Ottawa
We want to make sure Foligno is properly protected from a monstrous beast like Crosby in the future.
by whatsinaname on Nov 26, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Malkin should be suspended too, by association, eh, yes.
by whatsinaname on Nov 26, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
I'm a bit of a hardliner re: headshots
To me, any headshot or elbowing penalty should require at least a phone call from Shanny. Not necessarily a suspension, but you should hafta justify yourself if you hit a player’s head illegally.
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by Johnny_Spectacular on Nov 26, 2011 7:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It wasn't a "headshot" by the definition that's largely used
Is was a minor jab. I agree, as I said above, that it’s absurd for Crosby to play like that, but it’s not remotely a play that would or should warrant supplementary discipline.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 26, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Just youtubed the incident
my earlier comments were in jest. Now that I’ve seen it….we know Sid is not a dirty player and yet it’s an intentional elbow to the head. You never elbow someone on the chest, it’s always meant for the head and depending on which part of the face, it can result in a bruise or worst. Question is, what if Foligno had a concussion, even a mild one? How would that make Crosby feel as a victim of concussion himself? Is hockey just a fast game of reaction? What if Foligno had a history of concussions before Crosby’s elbow?
Everything regarding Crosby is magnified tenfold. If it were someone else, there will be less discussion? At the end of the day, hits to the head must be penalized, accidental or not, not unlike high sticks to the face. And if the NHL is serious about reducing it, the penalty should be game(s) suspension. How many games depend on seriousness of injuries, like high stick, with or without blood. The controversy continues.
by whatsinaname on Nov 26, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Shanny's done
Tell you the truth, even if it were another player I doubt Shanny would have done anything. His hands have been tied and he’s not in control anymore because he was too strict, the NHL and the owners can’t handle that. Shanny and the player could have a conversation about it, but they could just say they didn’t mean it and if they don’t have any past incidents they can get off from the looks of it. There have been too many serious hits that have lead to concussions/players lying in a heap on the ice in the last month or so that haven’t had any repercussions to the player that caused it. Yes some have not been ignored, but there have been some painfully obvious ones that should have been called.
As for a head shot, in comparison, that’s not the kind Crosby has been trying to point out. Yes, it was a stupid move by Crosby, he shouldn’t have done it, but he got his minutes; also a stupid move by Foligno to sit on Fleury about 3 times. As a Crosby fan I’m obviously bias, but my Sens come first. I can’t say I was impressed with either one of the guys tonight.
Shanny
Dumb and stupid play by Crosby. He is playing a bit chippy since coming back and had better settle down. That’s not his game. Maybe he is trying to prove he is a tough player since it took so long to come back?
Shanny would be OK as long as you were a Bruin. Is it me or does it seem they always skate out of trouble?
Yes, you are sooo right about this “intent” thing. “I didn’t mean to do it Shanny.” …“OK, no suspension.” Joke. How does anyone actually know intent unless you read minds. Make a decision based on the play, not what the player says he intended to do or not do.
Yeah, he’s done and he lost his cred. :(
I really liked the play by play video reviews. He should do them for everything he reviews. At least you get to see what he is thinking and understand what he is talking about.
Sigh, oh well.
Sorry, I vented about Shanny on the Pens board a bunch and just had to when I saw this comment.
On another note….
I always liked Anderson when he was on the Avs. Discounting this game, how has he played for you this year?
Oh and Condra was all over the ice and that was a nice move on his goal.
'Tis true - Shanny is finished
I was hoping this move involving Shanahan would have helped usher in a new era in hockey where the baboons would have been put on a leash and skilled players allowed to thrive in a safer environment. However, since the season has started, it appears to me that nothing has really changed. His hands have been tied by his handlers, and as a result, his professional credibility has been compromised. He promised to make changes in the game, but is clearly being prevented from doing so. If I were him, I would try to salvage my dignity and my potential future in hockey by walking away from this mess. If you look at the list of those players who have received suspensions so far this year, compared to those that should have received the same treatment, the main discrepancy is in their salaries. A lot of the suspended players could have their missing salaries covered my passing the hat around the dressing room. I can imagine Shanny hears about it when he is looking at suspending a player making 4 million a year; a suspension for even three games could get player reps quite worked up. So, rather than worrying about ruffling the players feathers with fines, (considering future collective bargaining), they should simply call everything and fine the owners directly for the infractions. Perhaps then the culture of hockey might finally change for the better. Put the onus in the hands of the woners. they are the ones putting goons into the lineup. It just seems to me that it is only the fan base that is concerned with unneccesary agression and violence in the game. The owners only become vocal when it is their star players that are the victims, and always seem to turn a blind eye to the instances wherein their own players are guilty of unsportsmanlike conduct. Anyway, if I were Shanny, I would high tail it out of there as quickly as I could,
by Aenesidemus on Nov 26, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Very good point about fining the owners
and Shanny has definitely shown himself to be inconsistent since the start of the season…hockey politics for sure.
by whatsinaname on Nov 26, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I remain convinced that if Bettman had Shanahan's back, he wouldn't have backpedaled.
I’m not the type to say ’Bettman’s ruining hockey’, because I don’t believe it, but if Shanahan is going to have the leeway to suspend players, no matter how important they are to their teams, he needs Bettman’s support and cover from GMs and owners who are short-sighted – and, let’s face it, they all are when it’s their players facing a Shanaban (however few of them there are nowadays).
I had a bad feeling about this...
Any time a team is coming off a five day layoff, you usually get results like this. The entire team looked unprepared – from the goaltending to the forwards. Like you, I thought only Daugavins, Condra and Cowan had good games. When three “grinder” rookies are your highlights, and the vets are nowhere to be found, the end result is this disasterpiece.
I expect to see this from Anderson all season. He’ll string together 4 to 6 great games and then have an absolute stinker. He did the same in Colorado too. To quote the immortal Mike Eastwood: “it is, what it is”.
And am I the the only one wondering when the other shoe is going to drop on Elliott? I haven’t watched too many Blues games but is he stealing the show or is he the product of a great system? WTF.
by The Dutch Treat on Nov 26, 2011 1:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Elliott
Its a mix of both to be honest but from the few games Ive watched, the D playing in front of him has been really good. Blocking most dangerous shots and clearing pucks quickly but to be fair but to be fair like I said he’s also been playing well
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We all know what Elliott is capable of in streaks
What I’m waiting to see is whether he can maintain this level of play for even the majority of a season (let alone an entire season) before deciding whether or not he’s any different from the guy we traded away.
Suffice to say, that “Tank” nickname from his time with the Avalanche has significantly changed its meaning.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 26, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
rec'd
for “disasterpiece”
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 26, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Actually...
Elliott has been pretty amazing. No rebounds, super aggressive and just plain simple goaltending.
Not only are we left to wonder, COL must be really wondering. Lost Anderson for nothing. Lost Elliot for nothing. Yeesh.
(I’m happy for Elliott)
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- Joe Corvo
They didnt lose Anderson for nothing
They got Landeskog for Anderson, thats pretty much what they wanted from that trade to begin with
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Before we get too worked up about Elliott
He is playing under Ken Hitchcock, so it probably shouldn’t come as a surprise that he’s doing so well. It’s rather like when the Columbus Blue Jackets were being coached by Hitch and Steve Mason won the Calder.
This is a huge point (although Hitchcock is a recent part of the change)
He’s in a different situation there. His success wouldn’t necessarily (and I don’t think it would likely) transfer over to Ottawa were he still in a Sens uniform.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 26, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Tru Dat
Under Hitchcock, Leclaire had like 11-ty billion shutouts.
by The Dutch Treat on Nov 26, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Well, you can't win them all
But you don’t like to see this kind of result. Who did the Senators think they were – the New York Islanders?
That game was balls, and I hate Crosby more than ever.
That’s all.
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by AlfieGirl on Nov 26, 2011 2:14 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I don't hate Crosby the person
but I can’t stand the Crosby the media has created. And this incident with Foligno has him losing a lot of credibility with people I’ve spoken with.
by whatsinaname on Nov 26, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
This is it.
Crosby is a good player, no doubt. But the team he has had with him is a championship team! They were in the top 4 without him last year and this year, and lost to Tampa in 7 games in the playoffs last year.
So what are we supposed to make of Anderson?
looks like it was a relatively even affair except for him shitting the bed.
Of all the things that weren’t supposed to be an issue this year, it seems to be our biggest issue.
I don’t know if it was an even affair. We were completely outplayed and outchanced. Anderson crapping it early might have contributed to that though.
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I worry
I am worried that once again the team/management/fans/media will reveal their true colours, and our goaltending will be scapegoated. Why do we always have such high expectations that stopgap solutions will suffice? We watch them do well and think the world of them, then we throw them to the wolves at the first sign of weakness. I could make a good case to demonstrate the emergence of this trend since the 2000 season, but I am sure we are all aware of it. Since Bethiaume, Beaupre and Tugnutt stood betweent he pipes, in the days before we had ambitions or expectations, we have been grasping at straws to find reasonable goaltending – and when we do…Well, we know what it is we do. We have had sound homegrown prosepcts and talent – winning goalies with winning records (Hurme, Prusek, Lalime, Emery), but there is something we do to them – something that seems to happen around them. Many teams have done well with second rate goaltending, and some bad teams have even stuck by their bad goaltending – through thick and thin. I am not going to crusade on the part of Anderson, because this was a desperate signing on our part, and one that could ultimately threaten his career; but once again, something is happening in nets. We have a reasonable goaltender – yet we will drive him to his knees – and he will go on to win 100 games with other teams. Maybe we can bring in Lehner and watch him pay the price, but what then. What happens if, heaven forbid, he cant produce the way we consistantly demand? Once he is under the bus, the future of our development could be compromised. This is surely something management must be looking at. Really. Anyway, I just wish they could find a goaltender that we can live with. Teams do win or lose together. Players and goaltenders that are really that bad – hard to imagine them succeeding through so many levels of competitive amateur, and professional hockey just to play poorly for us. Hmmmmm I dont think they do it out of spite. Hope management or the coaching staff can figure this out sooner than later. I feel for Anderson. He did shit the bed – a couple of times now. Will probably do it again before too lkong. Maybe it is the water in the clubhouse.

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