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Senators get third straight win with 5-2 victory over Oilers

The Senators earned their third straight win tonight over the Oilers, but I use the term "earned" loosely. The Senators only had 16 shots on goal, but made the most of their chances by burying 5 of those shots.

Things looked grim to start the game, as the Oilers came out with far more energy than the Sens. The Kid Line of Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was all over the Senators for the first few shifts, and Ottawa only managed to stay in the game thanks to several stunning saves from Craig Anderson.

The Senators got on the board first with a goal from Colin Greening on the team's first shot, which was followed just nine seconds later with a goal from Kaspars Daugavins on the team's second shot. The Senators made it 3-0 later in the period on a Milan Michalek goal that came right off the face-off, giving the Senators a comfortable lead to end the first period.

The Oilers made it a 3-1 game early in the second period, when Anton Lander scored short-handed for his first NHL goal. However, the Senators would expand their lead back to three when Jesse Winchester sniped one home on a breakaway to make the game 4-1.

The Senators received an unexpected goal from Zenon Konopka in the third period to give the Sens a 5-1 advantage, and the Sens held on to win 5-2.

Star-divide

Sens Hero: Oilers Goaltenders
Nikolai Khabibulin made 4 saves on 7 shots, good for a .571 save percentage before getting pulled after the first period. He was relieved by Devan Dubnyk, who allowed 2 goals on 9 shots.

Sens Hero: Craig Anderson
Normally, a .917 save percentage isn't worthy of a hero nomination, but Anderson gets it here because if he hadn't started the game with a series of spectacular saves, I'm almost certain that the Senators would have lost this game. He made the saves he had to, which allowed the Senators to get some lucky bounces and get the win. You also can't fault him on the two goals against -- one was a perfect shot from Lander, while the other was a screened shot where Ryan Smyth was pushing Anderson back into his net.

Sens Hero: Jason Spezza, Milan Michalek, and Colin Greening
The Greening-Spezza-Michalek line hit a bit of a dry spell lately, but they were back at it tonight, scoring two of the Senators' goals. Michalek had a goal and an assist, Spezza had two assists, and Greening had four hits and the game's first goal. Spezza was particularly impressive, as he led the team in shots and created countless chances with some slick stickwork tonight.

Random Notes:

  • Stephane Da Costa was 1 for 16 in the face off circle tonight.
  • Filip Kuba was a +3, the best plus/minus of any player.
  • Erik Karlsson and Sergei Gonchar led the team in time on ice with just over 26 minutes each.
  • Zenon Konopka and Bobby Butler had the least time on ice with 11:05 and 11:20, respectively.
  • The Senators got goals from their first, third, and fourth lines. Only the Foligno - Da Costa - Alfredsson failed to hit the score sheet.
  • Chris Phillips left the game in the third period with an undisclosed injury. It's not believed to be serious, and he should be in the lineup on Sunday.

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 8:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Winchester-Konopka-Butler

Those guys have been producing lately and their ice time is starting to show it. Over 11 minutes tonight compared to many games where they have been in the 6-8 minute range. Seems like MacLean is giving them a few extra shifts when they show him something.

by DW19 on Nov 18, 2011 2:12 AM EST reply actions  

MacLean doesn't seem to have a problem rewarding the players that produce

I, for one, would LOVE to roll four lines. I think that’s a key to success in the NHL.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

I’d say its how we got to the SCF in 07.

by DaveYoung on Nov 18, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

MacLean doesn’t seem to have a problem rewarding the players that produce

I, for one, would LOVE to roll four lines. I think that’s a key to success in the NHL.

The way it should be…they are earning the ice time and can be argued they have been the best line overall in the last 2 games….

by gwplant on Nov 18, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, there's a much more equitable distribution of ice time

I bet if you only factored in even-strength time, the four lines wouldn’t be far off from one another.

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 18, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

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by MadCash on Nov 18, 2011 2:49 AM EST reply actions  

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by spezzasbrother on Nov 18, 2011 4:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

You and I think alike

Easy rec

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel so validated

Especially after no one laughed at my Bill Muckalt joke yesterday, which was very hurtful.

by RogerTheShrubber on Nov 18, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I laughed,

but not onto the keyboard, unfortunately for you…

by Pmoron on Nov 18, 2011 5:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Seriously!

I was camped out in my chair over by the left faceoff circle. I had my pole out, line through the ice, hook in the water; just waiting for a bite. Next thing you know I caught a fish this big!

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Nov 18, 2011 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

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" Hey, it’s not my fault I look so annoying"

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by SensDew19 on Nov 18, 2011 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

GA going down down down!!!

It’s so wonderful to see the Goals Against plummeting. Anderson and the D are coming together, and the offence is doing fine.

by Marvellous on Nov 18, 2011 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

Andy played a great game last night!!

And it’s nice to see the guys bury the chances they got. The goals were great! Even though they didn’t earn it on paper, it’s nice to see them win a game this way (usually they are on the other side haha)

by Los Blancos Chicca on Nov 18, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

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I am so confused, what am I supposed to do with my hands?!

by dspin02 on Nov 18, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

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That’s right RNH, your mom is this big.

by dspin02 on Nov 18, 2011 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

"I can't believe the relative Corsi of my opponents! Come on challenge me!"

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 9:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Terrble

I want to flag this

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

I was going to say that but you beat me to it.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 18, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s a learning process. Bound to have lapses. :(

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Get him a double down! Stat!

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by AlfieGirl on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I am the David Rundblad!

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh, no.

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by AlfieGirl on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably not how it was drawn up

but its nice to get wins that are easier. three in a row!

by DaveYoung on Nov 18, 2011 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

Da Costa's face-offs

Now I am not one to overstate the importance of winning face-offs, but 1 for 16? Can anyone recall someone taking that many face-offs and being so brutal?

You really have to be pretty bad to be THAT bad on a 50-50 thing.

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 10:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I can't, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it on the stat sheet

It’s a red flag for me.

We had Konopka out there for Zibanejad’s faceoffs… maybe we need to think about doing the same thing for Da Costa.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

He needs a lot of practice

Faceoffs have as much to do with strength and cheating as they do with timing; I think he’s just got to spend some time working with Spezza in practice learning the tricks of the trade in the NHL. It’s harder to win a draw here than in college, and that could be a difference he wasn’t expecting to be so great.

In the meantime, he’s on a line with Foligno; have Foggie take the draws.

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 18, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Hard to believe that Maclean continues to go to DeCosta after 17 draws with him only winning 1….overall at 33% that is less than average for a 2nd line center, you will likely see Konopka return to the role he had with NYI last year and start taking def zone draws with the second line…he went 4 for 5 and overall is 58% tops on the team, seems DeCosta is running out of time to prove he should stay when Neil and definitely Regin returns. Last few games are showing he is definitely not ready yet…

by gwplant on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but then we're stuck with Konopka on the ice against the opposition 2nd line in the defensive zone

Seriously. The Corsi stats tell a solid story on this one:

Relative teammate corsi: 1.792 (3rd highest on the team)
Relative opponent corsi: -0.094 (5th lowest on the team)
Konopka’s relative corsi: -10.3 (5th worst, and everyone below him is a rookie)

Combined, that makes for the 2nd softest assignment any Sens player has had this season. And the 5th worst defensive performance. This is not a guy you want to put up against tougher opponents in the defensive zone!

by B_T on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if the intent is to win the faceoff and get off as fast as possible?

That’s how he was used with Zibanejad.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but even if he wins the face-off 60% of the time, that’s still 40% of the time with a defensive liability in his own zone against a 2nd line.

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a way to actually measure his Corsi for the first 9 games where he took defensive zone faceoffs?

I’m curious if he turned out to be a liability when he was used in that role earlier in the year.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not easily

Unless you’ve got a game-by-game database of the relevant stats for just about the entire league.

Someday….

by B_T on Nov 18, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That sucks

But I can’t help feeling that having him win a faceoff and be a liability is better than having Da Costa lose a faceoff and have to muscle someone off the puck to get it back.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, we can keep an eye on it

And if his average keeps dropping, we can reasonably assume that it was better in the first 9 games.

by B_T on Nov 18, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Here you go - all data for 5-on-5

Konopka played 6 of the 9 games that Zibanejad played:

His raw Corsi was -2 and he was on for 17 defensive zone face-offs and 14 offensive zone face-offs for a defensive zone start of 54.8%. When adjusting for zone-starts, the raw Corsi is +0.4

Since Zibanejad left, Konopka has played 8 games:
His raw was +2 in those 8 games and he was on for 23 defensive zone face-offs and 15 offensive zone face-offs for a defensive zone start of 60.5% When adjusting for zone starts, his raw Corsi is +7.6

Now keep in mind these are absolute raw corsi, not per 60 minutes. His relative Corsi would be well into the negatives I suspect because for the season, the Sens are a +9.65 per 60 minutes when Konopka isn’t on the ice.

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, I should clarify, these were face-offs he was on the ice for, not necessarily face-offs he took. Winchester’s been taking more than him lately.

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

HOW HAS THAT CAPTION ON THE GAME PHOTO GONE UNMENTIONED?

Your best work, for SURE.

by DaveYoung on Nov 18, 2011 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

“Whaddya mean they traded me for Omark??”

by Kravchuk on Nov 18, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

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“Wait – Even Zenon has played a full season before!? What the hell!?”

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by Johnny_Spectacular on Nov 18, 2011 10:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

"Wait – Even Zenon has played a full season before!? What the hell!?"

Huh?? Why wouldn’t he play a full season?? He was an important part for the Islanders and 4th in the league in FO%…why wouldn’t a guy like that play every game?? I don’t get your comment…

by gwplant on Nov 18, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a joke

We joke around here

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

We joke around here

Hey I get a good joke I just don’t understand why he continues to be the brunt of so many “jokes” by so many posters on this site…again seems like I stumbled upon a little clique that have found comfort in each other to find an easy target to single out…for some reason. But meh.

by gwplant on Nov 18, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

We really should stop picking on Konopka so much, guys. I’m sure we’ve hurt his feelings and he’s got it bad enough, only making $700K a year. We should stop being such bullies.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 18, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

There's no Konopka hate clique here

We labeled Bobby Butler a bust after his first game. We have a flowchart that says "Fucking Kuba!" We nicknamed Brian Lee Double Down.

Lighten up… and that advice is not a joke.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

You obviously do not get jokes

Or you obstinately continually refuse to acknowledge the fact that we aren’t, in fact, all out to get Konopka; we simply see flaws in his games.

I’m not sure how long you expect us to put up with your provocations, but I assure you, we will not put up with it for much longer.

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 18, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Someone had to say it.

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by AlfieGirl on Nov 18, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

IT IS BECAUSE THE WORLD HATES ZENON KONOPKA

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

So I try and stand up in the minority for a player, something which is proving to be true as per the stats, and I am being regarded as a “troll” for this?? Hard to be a minority i suppose and if I only knew what a “troll” was….mom always told me it’s easier to be a follower in life harder to stand up with a voice when no one wants to hear you…

by gwplant on Nov 18, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm telling Adnan to stop antagonizing you.

I’m fucking sick of you repeating yourself, and you do it enough in response to actual comments without Adnan throwing fuel on the fire by deliberately provoking you.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 18, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I provoke? I could be like…

:D

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

You provoke

I hear even your greetings posts in GDTs make some people want to hurt/hug you.

by B_T on Nov 18, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this an awkward point to say that I'm pro-Konopka?

He’s defensively decent, chucks knucks, a faceoff beastmaster, the best interview on the team and has chipped in a couple goals to boot.

Add that to his help in getting the Ottawa 67’s a Memorial Cup win in ’99 and #28 is fine by me.

There’s certainly some chops-busting on this site, but it’s generally with love in our hearts.

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by Johnny_Spectacular on Nov 19, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

There is no awkward point to say you're pro-Konopka

We have no problem with people liking Konopka. You like whichever player you’d like to like! I can certainly see the value based on the contributions you outline.

However, no matter how much you like Konopka, don’t feel the need to come to his defence every single time someone slams him. Especially when the slams are well-reasoned. (I’m not saying you would do this, I’m just saying that another community member has.)

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 19, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

If I were to have a fighter like ZK on my team, I rather he be

an agitator who racks up PIM annoying the hell out of the other teams and fights their 2nd and 3rd line players instead of their designated fighters which is at best, neutral and at worst, a waste of time. Yes, I won’t mind someone like Avery. Ruutu was good too because of his smile/smirk.

by whatsinaname on Nov 19, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't stand those kind of players

I was never a fan of Ruutu or his smirk. Congratulations, you’re a douchebag?

But yeah, if Konopka’s fights weren’t so mechanical, I’d like them a lot more.I really feel he fights just to fight and that’s not beneficial to the Senators.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 19, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah his fights also aren't all that entertaining

And they never seem to have an effect on the team.

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by AlfieGirl on Nov 20, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he can hug whomever he wants, as far as I'm concerned

I don’t need a fight to be entertaining to consider it meaningful.

But yeah, his fights never seem to give his teammates any kind of lift.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 20, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

You’ve got to admit that it’d be awesome if he managed to get Kessel or Iginla or even Lucic to fight him – getting those guys off the ice for 5 min would be well worth it, regardless of timing or whether it energizes the team or anything. Long shot, but it’d be awesome.

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by AlfieGirl on Nov 20, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoyed Ruutu

But people have told me I’m a bit of a pest when I play hockey. So maybe I’m just biased. Still, I enjoyed Ruutu’s pestiness more than I enjoy Neil’s, because it seemed so much more conniving.

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 20, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ruutu seems to really enjoy his pestiness

and that;s what bugs the hell out of the opposition.

by whatsinaname on Nov 20, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You're talking about two different kinds of players, though.

A lot of the agitators (like Ruutu, Avery, etc) piss off the other team but don’t drop the gloves often enough to be labelled fighters. How many times do you remember Ruutu fighting when he was here? I can’t think of a single instance off the top of my head.

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by AlfieGirl on Nov 20, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Or at least timed them better

I figure that the players we’d like ZKon to take out of the lineup are generally too smart to actually drop the gloves with him, so I’m okay with him fighting the likes of Avery. But his timing seems to be horrible.

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by AlfieGirl on Nov 20, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

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by bobbykelly on Nov 18, 2011 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

Come on now, if you are going to bring it up, how am I supposed to not make fun again?

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m in a place where I’m embracing the lunacy of the loss, now.

by bobbykelly on Nov 18, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

In that case, go Pats!

Pretty easy schedule the rest of the way.
The team with the best record we still play is Buffalo. ;)

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

F^(&ing Tebow

The Chiefs loss to that brat still stings.

And yes, I’m a Chiefs fan. Shut up.

And boo Pats, while we’re at it, even though they’re gonna demolish us on monday…

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by Johnny_Spectacular on Nov 19, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

That was something

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

So…Konopka has more goals than Karlsson.

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by Adnan on Nov 18, 2011 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

Karlsson is fraud

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

In all seriousness, that's great for the team

Karlsson doesn’t necessarily need to score goals to help the team. I’ll take the 17 goals he’s helped generate all day long if that means he’s not a goal-scorer. He’s still an offensive catalyst.

And getting goals from your fourth line is a positive no matter how you look at it.

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by Mark Parisi on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Pop quiz

What does the number 2.4 currently represent?

by sensory_experience on Nov 18, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

This is so great.

I’m not going to give the “actual” answer for a bit longer, because watching your collective creativity is too much fun.

by sensory_experience on Nov 18, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Trade math

So, if you take the number of goals scored by Michalek so far this season (12), and divide it by the number of goals scored by Heatley so far this season (5), you get 2.4

Michalek projection for the season: 49
Heatley projection for the season: 22

That’s unlikely to hold, but still … fun times.

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The Captions

Were fun to read and there were some gems…Just a suggestion, but you guys should make it a regular thing with post game recaps.

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