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The Ottawa Senators finally saw their winning streak end after being thoroughly outplayed by the Stanley Cup champions Boston Bruins. In the end, they were outshot 41-26 and probably outchanced by a similar ratio. It was a pretty disappointing performance. On the other hand, despite playing poorly on the road against the champions, the Senators were in a 3-3 game in the third period.

The Senators ran into penalty trouble early in the first period when Sergei Gonchar was called for hooking. Ottawa killed that off and then scored the first goal of the game at the 5:19 mark courtesy of Nick Foligno. At this point, Zenon Konopka who had played 38 seconds in the game so far, was already angry enough to fight Shawn Thornton. Staged fights or fights to "get a team going" are really stupid. Eight seconds later, Sergei Gonchar took his second hooking penalty and on the ensuing power play, Erik Karlsson couldn't contain Milan Lucic at the side of the net. Lucic put the rebound in the net to tie the game. Just 16 seconds later Stéphane Da Costa received a beautiful pass from Nick Foligno, and finished it to give the Senators the lead again. Ottawa was largely outchanced and was outshot 17-9 in the period but managed to take a 2-1 lead into the intermission.

Ottawa didn't improve much at the start of the second period. Tyler Seguin found Patrice Bergeron right in the slot, who wired it into the net to tie the game 4:21 into the second period. Shortly after, the Bruins should really have taken the lead, but Craig Anderson came up with two huge saves, the latter one on a wide open Chris Kelly right in front of the net. After another penalty kill, the Senators finally put some pressure on the Boston net, getting two or three scoring chances with Jason Spezza's line. That pressure didn't last long and Boston dictated play for the rest of the period. Chris Neil took an interference penalty that the Senators killed off, but after the power play was over, Chris Kelly slammed a slapshot into the top corner to give Boston their first lead of the game. Before the period was over, Chris Neil took his second penalty in a five minute span, this time for slashing.

Ottawa killed off Neil's penalty at the start of the third and played decently enough until Jared Cowen scored his first career NHL goal to tie the game at 3. Just when thoughts of another glorious third period comeback were creeping back, Jason Spezza won a defensive zone face-off cleanly but Chris Phillips bobbled the puck. Eventually the puck would get back to the point and Johnny Boychuk's slapshot from long distance couldn't be stopped by Craig Anderson. Only 37 seconds later, Daniel Paille scored on a breakaway to make it a 5-3 game for Boston. Ottawa pulled the goaltender with almost three minutes left in the game, but there would be no further scoring

More after the jump, including those of the heroic and zero variety.

Star-divide

Sens Hero: Nick Foligno
I didn't really want to pick a hero after that performance but I questioned Foligno's presence on the second line and he responded with a career high three point night. His pass for Da Costa's goal was a thing of beauty.

Serns Zero: Jason Spezza
Spezza has been incredible for most of the season, but tonight he wasn't. Aside from one shift after he came out of the box, Spezza did not create any chances and was on the ice for two goals against. All in all, not a good night for number 19. His linemates Milan Michalek and Colin Greening weren't very effective either, but they are dependant on Spezza.

Sens Killer: Zdeno Chara
Chara was a force tonight. He finished the night with two assists, five shots, four hits, a +2 rating and played 25:17. This one hit on Erik Karlsson, about a full foot shorter than Chara, had me cringing.


Other Notes

  • Erik Karlsson is second on the club with 40 shots but only has one goal. He also finished with a plus rating for the third straight game. Karlsson played against the Seguin-Bergeron-Marchand line and didn't allow them a 5-on-5 goal while on the ice against him.
  • Chris Phillips didn't have a good night and played only 16:43 including only 10:39 on even strength. Among defencemen, only Jared Cowen played less even strength hockey than Phillips.
  • Speaking of Cowen, he scored his first career goal which was also his first career point. Having said that, Cowen is really being protected lately. He wasn't on the ice for a single defensive zone face-off in 5-on-5 situations and has the highest offensive zone starts percentage among Senators defencemen this season.
  • Nikita Filatov only played for 6:34. Even if there is no room for him in top six, I would like to see him at least replace Erik Condra on the third line.
  • The Senators were shorthanded seven times thanks to only three players. Chris Neil took three minor penalties, while Sergei Gonchar and Jason Spezza took two. The Senators penalty kill actually played well, going 6 for 7, though the last two kills were a 13-second 5-on-3 at the end of the game.
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Sens killer: Craig Anderson

Anderson has just been brutal this year. My biggest hope for Ottawa is that he’ll regress to the mean, because Ottawa’s been scoring way too much to have this record so far.

by TheGuineaPig on Nov 1, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He actually played pretty well in the first two periods

Kept the Senators in it when they were outshot 33-16 after 2.
The winning goal was brutal though, especially after we had just tied it.

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by Adnan on Nov 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure he had 5 goals scored against him

but honestly, how can you blame him? The game was 3-3 going into the 3rd almost entirely due to Andy. They were outshot 41-26 and he was robbing guys left, right and centre! I didn’t blame him on any of the goals.

by Pmoron on Nov 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

The youngsters on defense all were victimized tonight

Karlsson was unable to contain his man on the doorstep during the kill, Rundblad had a couple tough plays resulting in goals, and Cowen had an ill-advised pinch.

Tough to lay it all on Anderson. One more save would have been nice, but it could have been worse.

by LeTigre on Nov 1, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably his best game of the year

He made all kinds of saves to keep the Sens in it. Too much was asked of him tonight, and he still kept them in for 50 minutes. If the team in front of him decide to play as weakly as they did today, he may have to do that a lot this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Nov 1, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He really wasn't bad tonight

Maybe he’s not playing at the level we need him at, but he’s not the problem.

by RogerTheShrubber on Nov 2, 2011 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

0.880 Save percentage

0.896 at even-strength.

That’s Toskalaesque.

by TheGuineaPig on Nov 2, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stats in a vaccuum, though

I missed the game, but how many of those shots did he have a legit chance to save?

Silver Seven - The Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa Senators Blogs

by Mark Parisi on Nov 2, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the problem with people who can't assess the level of replacement

Every game, people say “Oh, well he didn’t really have a chance.” But the fact is, yes he did, and an average goalie would’ve made a lot more saves than him over the games he’s played so far.

He’s been brutal. Just brutal.

by TheGuineaPig on Nov 2, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were mostly nice goals, I wouldn’t say any of them were unstoppable except maybe the Lucic goal, but they weren’t bad goals either. You can’t excuse your goalie for every nice goal, but Anderson made a lot of of nice saves. Would have liked to see Anderson make the save on the 4-3 just after the Sens had tied it.

The Senators allowed 41 shots, and in my very unscientific estimate, I would say a higher proportion of them were good scoring chances than a typical a 41 shot game.

I won’t fault Anderson for last night, he was very good in the first two periods, but he still allowed 5 goals.

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by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

When are we going to fault him?

Because he’s been brutal this season. Just brutal. Game in, game out.

As the sample size grows, how can his play continue to be excused?

by TheGuineaPig on Nov 2, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't you think he was pretty great in the first two periods?

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by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, he had a rough third

But we are now 13 games in to a long term contract. I am not ready to jump all over him yet at all. He clearly had some personal problems early this season and his head hasn’t been right in every game.

This team was supposed to be trash, and we have been pleasantly surprised early on. Reserve judgement until later on.

O Magnus....

by Irish_Human on Nov 2, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh...

You can seriously tell when someone has no concept of the game when all they do is point to statistics (such as save %) and use it to fill their narrative…

Anderson has been “brutal” so far? That’s funny. Prior to last night, his stats were 5-0, a GAA of 2.60 and a SV% of .910. In those five games included a 35 of 36 performance against Winnipeg and a game against Carolina we had no business winning.

Is he playing at the level we need him to if the team wants to make the playoffs? No. But expecting him to play that good, which would require him to play at Patrick Roy-esque in 1986 levels, night-in and night-out is a ridiculous expectation for a goalie of his caliber.

There is a big difference between “shots” and “goal-scoring chances”. I would say the Senators, with their young, inexperienced and some-what soft blueline, probably leads the league in goal-scoring chances.

The 4th goal was a result of a very good far post shot by Boychuk thru a multi-player screen and the 5th goal was a breakaway. To fault Anderson on either of those two goals is exactly why people think this town is a goalie graveyard. Our expectations of goaltending are far too high considering the level of talent on this team.

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Going into last night, Anderson was 6-2 in 10 games and 9 starts, with a 3.66 GAA and .881 SV%

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I should have said, “during the win streak his stats were…”

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

In that case

2.53 GAA and .906 SV% from his 5 wins during the streak.

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

See…this is why I’ve lurked for over 5 years on this blog…because my math is embarrassingly bad…

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't feel too bad

GAA is actually based on TOI, not simply number of games. Bit trickier to figure out. SV% was a rounding thing, maybe?

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said

I would accept “Anderson has been mediocre.” It’s fairly clear from both statistical or anecdotal evidence that he’s not stealing games.

But the “[our goalie] was brutal” analysis that follows every loss of every team in the league is usually a sign of a poor understanding of the game.

by RogerTheShrubber on Nov 2, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson has been human

At times very good, at times kind of bad, but mostly pretty decent. He is going to have to be consistently excellent for the Senators to challenge this year. Up to now, he has only occasionally been excellent.

by DW19 on Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your analysis may be fine

But is it really necessary to start by saying ‘you can seriously tell when someone has no concept of the game’?

If you don’t agree with what someone says, fine, say so, but there’s no need to be unpleasant, or gwplant.

by JonathanA on Nov 2, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was last year good for the 1st two periods.

And honestly, I didn’t anything to fault him on in the 3rd. I mean why don’t we take his 660 SV% in the shootout and complain about that? The fact is that goalies need their defensemen playing well to succeed. If you’re blaming anyone, blame Konopka for fighting, or MacLean for letting him. It’s no secret the Bruins show up when they get to fight.

by Pmoron on Nov 2, 2011 10:50 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

No secret except for Konopka

Pre-game -
Paul MacLean: “Ok guys, this Bruins team likes to play a physical style and really gets into games when they fight. So lets keep it clean out there. We can win this”

  • Konopka – sitting in corner taping knuckles, humming. Hears “bzdfaljd ajdfaf jfalkjd jfajdht bthgh thuht buoug Fight” *

PM: Did you catch that ZK?"

ZK: “Yep, sure coach. Got it”

Post Game –
PM: "*ZK*! These guys get into games when they fight. What were you doing out there?!

ZK: “Why does no one tell me these things?”

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Nov 2, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game in, game out?

.972 vs Winnipeg
.941 vs Carolina

I’m not going to dispute he hasn’t been as good this season, but “game in, game out” is outright false.

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He kept the team in the game

He only let in 3 on 33 shots through 2 it should have been 5-6 to 2 by then he made a number of big saves to that point

by Beanster on Nov 2, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or Thomasesque

Thomas was .885 last night – .880 at even strength.

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

His overall SV% is the same (or close to) Bryzgalov, Luongo and Halak. All three of those guys play behind better teams than the Senators and are paid more (and in the case of Bryz and Bobby Lu – A LOT more – like 3 times as much).

Hiller is up there to as is Carey Price. Sometimes stats don’t tell the whole picture. Especially SV% on a team that often lacks defensive structure.

As much as I love Maclean, Clouston’s conservative system aided Anderson last year.

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The stats aren't as important as the timing

Big saves are the ones made a crucial times. I don’t care if his S% is .841 – as long as he’s making the big save at the right time.

GAA is a reflection of the team, not just the goalie.

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Nov 2, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I wasn’t thrilled with Andy last night. Some amazing saves, but at least one horrible goal.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But to be clear, I disagree that he's been brutal this season.

And I wouldn’t even really say brutal or a zero last night. Just unimpressive and not quite the goalie I saw after the trade last season.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not taking a middle ground

I said unimpressive!

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but it's still in the bad end of things

Certainly not in the middle ground between amazing and brutal!

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it's not an extreme!

And it’s an entirely reasonable statement!

You didn’t even insult Adnan’s objectivity or anything.

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bias has already been firmly established!

It’s like beating a dead horse!

An Ottawa Senators supporter in Toronto, Ontario. I am cool like that.

by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, if I was a real journalist and I was writing about the Ottawa Senators, there are lots of examples of objectivity not being a job requirement. ;)

An Ottawa Senators supporter in Toronto, Ontario. I am cool like that.

by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, that's how to qualify for the job?

I’m a sports journalist!

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah, woah - slow down

You’ve excelled in 2 of the 3 requirements – drinking beer, and not caring about objectivity.

But the last requirement still remains. Your final test is to come up with 3 baseless rumours (at least one must involve trading Spezza). Go!

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 rumours? You get one for free. You'll get the rest when you pay my salary.

Hey I hear Hasek’s coming out of retirement. Sign him in the offseason!

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well played

Went for the unmentioned alternate requirement: Inflated self importance!

You’re definitely qualified to be a sports journalist in this city!

by B_T on Nov 2, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

COME AT ME, GARRIOCH

And my trump card is the fact that I’m prettier than any of the Ottawa sports writers.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

???

Can you clarify which goal you considered to be “horrible”?

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that 5th one was pretty bad.

I also remember thinking the first one looked stoppable, although my recollection could be confused.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just my opinion, as a person who played goal in college (and I’m not excusing Anderson here just saying this was the case for me)…when you’ve just given up a goal, there’s this moment of “haziness” when you’re trying to shake it off and “reset” yourself. The 5th goal was literally 37 seconds after the 4th goal (which you could see really frustrated Anderson because his D core didn’t clear ANY of the bodies in front of him).

The breakaway happened so quickly that I think Anderson was still reeling after the 4th goal. If it was me, that would be the case. I’d be sitting in my crease thinking: “WTF, no one was helping me out there on that last goal, ok, take a deep breath and get…oh F### A BREAKAWAY!?!?”

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes sense

I’m not attributing the whole thing to him either, but I think he should have stopped that one. I get that the goalie needs time to reset, but so does the team. Letting in a goal that quickly can destroy any chance at a rally and kill the team’s confidence.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

After watching the highlights

I think the 5th was bad and I’m not entirely sure about the 2nd and 3rd.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

its curios...

why would coach maclean switch goalies. it was my understanding that most hockey athletes are ritualistic, superstitious even. so why should you not want to see what you can get out of young lehner?

by spezzasbrother on Nov 3, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

its curios...

why would coach maclean switch goalies. it was my understanding that most hockey athletes are ritualistic, superstitious even. so why should you not want to see what you can get out of young lehner?

by spezzasbrother on Nov 3, 2011 10:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think it's at all curious.

Players are often superstitious, but I doubt that translates to coaches. And BMur and everyone have been clear since before the start of this season that 1) Anderson is our starter, and 2) Lehner is not ready for the NHL quite yet. Andy sat because it would have been his 4th game in less than a week and second in a row, but he was back in the lineup once he’d rested up.

Asking why he’d switch goalies implies that we’d switched our focus to Lehner in the first place when really it was just calling in the backup to give Andy a break.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 3, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Staged fights may be stupid

But you can’t say it didn’t work for the Bruins. The Sens had just scored, the crowd was as quiet as you could imagine. And for some odd reason, Konopka decides to accept Thornton’s challenge, which is a zero sum game as far as the Sens are concerned. The crowd gets back into it, the Bruins draw a penalty five seconds later, and they score to tie it up. To me it was a huge turning point.
I know the Sens retook the lead, but they were outclassed the rest of the way. The Bruins were far too strong for the Sens tonight. Maybe they would have retained a more defeated attitude if Ottawa was able to keep up the pressure after their first goal. I’m not a big Konopka fan so far. He’s gotta think out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Nov 1, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Konopka's game thus far

But he ought not to fight if the team is up, except to protect his guys.

by LeTigre on Nov 1, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't do a thing for me

For a guy who’s second calling card is being great at faceoffs, he sure does get thrown out of the circle a lot.
And I’m not one who is against the existence of fighters in this league. I know most here will disagree with me, but I loved to see Smith drop the gloves near the end of the third. The Sens had been bullied all game, and that was Smith sending a message, both to the Bruins to remember for the next match-up, and to his teammates to step up their intensity. That kind of fight is fine with me, and purposeful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Nov 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not against fighters.

Until there are actual and consistent consequences for dirty play, they will be kept around. And I hope that day shows up.
I do agree with you about Smith.

by Pmoron on Nov 1, 2011 11:35 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

The Smith fight was timed much better than the Konopka one for sure

I have no problem with fights to rile up your team and I think the Smith one was a good example. But I do have a problem with a player agreeing to fight to rile up the other team, especially when it’s ridiculously early in the game.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should win one too

The guy needs to wear tighter sleeves or something

by RogerTheShrubber on Nov 2, 2011 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, is the NHL the only place in the world where wearing tighter sleeves can lead to you getting beat up less?

by RogerTheShrubber on Nov 2, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here is the thing

If they ‘work’ how do you know which team they work for? Does it only work if you win the fight?

Does it work for one of the teams, you just don’t know which one? I guess I don’t see the point.

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by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 8:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It works

If, for example, you’re at home, and you just gave up a goal, and the crowd is dead. Pretty narrow criteria, but that’s what happened last night. As long as Thornton doesn’t get beat up really badly there, then the crowd will be pumped back up. I think it’s pretty obvious that it “worked” for the Bruins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Nov 2, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, so, as a road team, would one ever want to start a fight?

I don’t see why Thornton and Konopka fighting would cause Gonchar to trip a guy eight seconds later.

But even if it did, I still hate it. There should be a better way to get your team going than have two people punch either in the face despite not being angry at each other.

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by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 9:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't have a stance on fighting

All I know is, it exists, and it’s a tactic that you can employ to help you win games. The effectiveness of that tactic is up for you to decide. If it gets your team going, and that’s your role, you drop the gloves.
Hockey would be essentially the same without fighting. I wouldn’t miss it. But, as of now, it there’s to be used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Nov 2, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen them work

Don’t remember when it happened, but I think it was the second half of last season. I remember Ottawa was playing really poorly – they just didn’t seem into the game at all. Then Neil drops the gloves (and wins the fight, which helped too), and all of a sudden the team is passionate again and the effort level bounces back up.

The problem with the Konopka fight is that Ottawa didn’t really need a fight to energize them so it worked against us.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Spezza was pretty good actually.

The thing I noticed the most was that the Bruins did a great job of using their sticks to disrupt passes. Either that or the guys were too sloppy with their passes.

by Pmoron on Nov 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Just my opinion, but he looked like he was skating in mud…

He didn’t have the usual jump to his game.

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

well in all fairness, I could be basing it mostly on a couple plays

But I thought he was safer with his passes then he has been previously. Just an impression though, I wasn’t watching him specifically.

by Pmoron on Nov 2, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

The Bruin defense has impeccable gap control

It seemed as though when the puck reached our speedier players on the breakout into the neutral zone, their defense would be jamming the flow much of the time. I think to counter that next time around, we need more quick tip shoot ins to tilt the ice more towards the Boston zone.

by LeTigre on Nov 2, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not going to lose much sleep over this one.

Things were going too well. We were due for a letdown game at some point. Boston seemed like a good team to have a letdown against.

Shawn McEachern: The best Senator to ever wear 15.

by Speedy_McEachern on Nov 2, 2011 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep

The game wasn’t great, but it was close and we were bound to lose in the next couple of games anyway. There were some bad plays, but I can’t really complain when we kept the game close until the middle of the 3rd anyway.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Nov 2, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fought to the end

The Sens as a whole didn’t play all that well, but at least they fought to the end. Boston is a tough team to beat, especially at home. A loss was always highly likely in this game.

by DW19 on Nov 2, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought Karlsson had a lousy game

And not just for his standards. A generally lousy game involving lots of giveaways and a sudden inability to move the puck up the ice, which is usually a strength of his game. He’ll bounce back, but I think his Sens-Killerness deserves an honourable mention.

Nick Foligno did have a very good game, especially playing with the mighty mites all night long. I think Butler + DaCosta = Jared Cowen.

by RogerTheShrubber on Nov 2, 2011 6:50 AM EDT reply actions  

He looked noticeably rattled on the powerplay too. Making very low percentage passes that were often intercepted. Bad breakout passes that were being broken up at centre ice. And when he took shots, he either fired them right at Timmy’s chest or over the net.

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not enough shutdown

During this rebuild period, Karlsson is being purposely overexposed to help train him… killing penalies and everything to train him to be an all around dman. And he is improving. IMO, we still need a young stud shutdown kind of a guy, and either bring Chris Kelly back or find a CK clone somewhere. Our GA and our PK is still suspect… and we are expecting way too much of Anderson if we expect him to do it himself night after night.

In particular we need these players when we play teams that play that GD trap style. It’s nice to have offensive-minded dmen but we need to balance with a couple of shutdown guys. I’m talking 27 year old Phillips / Volchenkov types. They don’t grow on trees. We still have work to do building our defence, and this draft is loaded with defence prospects.

We seem to have plenty of scoring now and developing. IMO, we need more defence from forwards and dmen if we are going to contend.

by Marvellous on Nov 2, 2011 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it's a matter of time before one or two of Ottawa's bottom six develops into a Kelly-type player

In the meantime, we have to put up with the growing pains, just as we have to do so with the rest of the mistakes the young squad is going to make.

You’d think Cowen would be the shut-down defenceman-in-training, but as Adnan keeps pointing out, he plays very sheltered minutes. I wonder if it wouldn’t be better for him to play big minutes in Bingo some more and let Lee out of the press box.

by JonathanA on Nov 2, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be opposed to sitting Cowen for a game

We have back-to-back coming up on Friday and Saturday. Maybe put Lee in for Cowen in one of them. Lee and Cowen would play a similar role and it would give Lee a game.

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by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 8:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lee for Cowen

I wouldn’t mind that. Despite being a big guy, I would think Cowen is the most likely of our defense prospects to hit the “rookie wall” due to his physical style. Lee is a good replacement and it would probably be good for both players to have Lee sub in for Cowen from time to time.

by DW19 on Nov 2, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GA & PK

If you look at our results for GA from after the Philly game to now, the GA drops significantly to 2.85ga/g. Still not great, but the team can obviously work with numbers like that.
Do the same for PK and the % goes up to 81.8 which is also workable, if the team can limit the time in the penalty box, and continue to produce on the PP we’ll be ok.

The two games against Colorado & Philidelphia significantly skew both the GA & PK #’s.

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Nov 2, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Foligno

Even Puck Daddy gave him third star of the day for his three-point effort. It sounded to me that, at least in the early going, the second line was the team’s best.

by JonathanA on Nov 2, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Filatov has work to do

Filatov is playing very little because he brings very little to the bottom lines and he is not being trusted. Condra fulfills a role killing penalties and preventing the opposition’s offence, things that are foreign to Filatov. When Stache trusts him to play like he’s being asked to play, he’ll play more. This is the same thing that Butler went through.

So it’s a double-edged sword (not playing enough to be able to produce), but the coach rules, and when he does it the coach’s way he’ll get more ice time. It’ll continue to be Blue Jackets Part 2 until he does it the Stache’s way.

Offensive guys who are struggling and don’t bring offence have this kind of problem because they don’t fit anywhere.

If he wants a bigger role, he’s going to have to be a scorer, or play better 200 feet as Stache puts it.

by Marvellous on Nov 2, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Fourth line is fine

As long as he understands that he is on the ice to check first and score second then he could be a fine contributor on the fourth line. Konopka and Winchester probably won’t convert many of the chances that Filatov might create for them, but as long as Filatov is learning MacLean’s system and honing his two-way play then who cares about his offense for now.

by DW19 on Nov 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watching Butler in the defensive zone makes my brain bleed

I know his defensive shortcomings have been well documented, but yesterday was just ridiculous. His lack of proper positioning gave the Bruins too many freebies. I thought MacLean would catch on in the third and bench his ass but I swear he must have been on every second shift at the beginning of the third period. I would be willing to see what Filatov would do taking his place on the second line…

by pguitard101 on Nov 2, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Filatov vs. Butler

Agreed. I think these two could shuttle between the 2nd and 4th lines depending on who is playing better defense and/or showing greater overall effort. Once Alfie is back, Filatov returns to Bingo to get more minutes in a scoring role.

by DW19 on Nov 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Senators offence very consistent

I want to point out, we’ve scored goals in 9 of the 13 games so far. The only exception is 7-1 to Colorado, 2-1 to Washington, 7-2 to Philadelphia, and the 3-2 win over Carolina (the shootouts don’t count as goals scored).

We average exactly three goals a game, and it’s not because of a few big games, it’s consistently there. We’ve also scored 6 goals in the last 2 games without Spezza or Michalek getting a point.

On the downside, we’ve already lost three games where we score 3+ goals. 5-3 to Detroit and Boston and 6-5 to Toronto.

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by Adnan on Nov 2, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Flip side: Senators defense very inconsistent

That has been the team’s problem so far. When they play good enough defense they win. When their defense is not up to snuff they lose.

by DW19 on Nov 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive responsibility

Yes exactly… our offence hasn’t been the problem; and this is why Stache is insisting on defensive responsibility. He lets guys play to a point, and then those who aren’t listening will be riding the benches or watching.

As a goal scorer who’s producing, you can get away with some miscues, but a good coach gets that message across. Responsible forwards make for much more effective dmen… and a much more effective goalie.

by Marvellous on Nov 2, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

The Paulrus preaches a 200 foot game but last night, people were content with playing in only the opposition’s zone.

Just look at how many players were out of position on the breakaway goal…Cowen was in way too deep, no one was manning the point (either Greening or Michalek should have been) and Spezza was skating like there was cement in his shoes.

Someone was noticeably late getting back on Kelly’s goal too. Whoever it was, that was his man who was allowed to come in untouched and fire a shot on goal (which, hasn’t been mentioned, deflected off of a falling Foligno and went in).

When the Sens were on this winning streak, everyone was playing hard on both ends of the ice. Last night, it was obvious they didn’t have their legs and they decided to half-arse it in their own end. Combine that with a relentless Bruins’ forecheck and it was a recipe for disaster.

by The Dutch Treat on Nov 2, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I won't debate any of that

Except to say that I think the breakaway goal was more a function of panicking a bit about blowing the lead and overcommitting to offense. I think we missed the calming presence of Alfredsson quite a bit last night.

by RogerTheShrubber on Nov 2, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate the trap

I hope nobody who matters was watching last night in order to tell other teams how to play us.

That GD trap (left wing lock… whatever) seems to work really well against us, which makes alot of sense. Paulrus is trying to design a “puck possession play well defensively all over the ice” kind of system and the trap works well against that. Too bad there’s no way to outlaw it.

I HATE THE TRAP!!! Among other things it’s boooooorrrrrrrrrrring, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!… although it’s great for catching up on your shut-eye.

by Marvellous on Nov 2, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

There is a way to beat the trap

This team isn’t quite skilled enough to do it just yet.

It involves supporting the puck carrier and mutiple quick short passes through the neutral zone.

They’ll get there as they develop.

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Nov 2, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Karlsson and Rundblad are trap-beaters

They just need a bit more developmental time, and some more skilled forwards.

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 2, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like what happened to the Canucks

I think the system that MacLean is implementing bears some resemblance to the Canucks possession-based style. Seems that the Bruins have an answer to that game plan.

by DW19 on Nov 2, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Bruins have the answer, for now, my friend, for now.

Come the new year, the Swedish, meatball eating dual will be able to skate through, around and under all six skaters on the other side and score. And when they don’t feel like doing that (too repetitive), they will make 120 feet passes to our forwards for breakaways. Just you wait and watch, my friend.

by whatsinaname on Nov 3, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if they do

Swedish meatballs will be the city’s favourite food.

by whatsinaname on Nov 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if they don't

Swedish meatballs will be the city’s favourite food.

by The Tif on Nov 4, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last Night

I am not worried losing to the Stanley Cup champs when we were 3-3 in the 3rd when not playing that great.

Saying that Boston just out muscled us on their fore-check, I think with the hits coming Gonchar and Philips didn’t stand up and deliver some hits back to make Boston forecheck a little more wary. If anything we made Boston look better than they currently are with their sticks on auto-dump for them to chase and check.

Go Sens Go

by You can call me Eado on Nov 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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