No suspension for Wolski; where is the Shanabanhammer?
by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 1, 2011 10:00 AM EDT
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On Saturday night, Wojtek Wolski caught Daniel Alfredsson with a dangerous elbow to the head. It struck many as a cut-and-dried violation of rule 48, and a predatory hit to boot. Given the precedent set by Brendan Shanahan through the pre-season, it was generally assumed Wolski would be given some level of supplemental discipline.
Wolski wasn't suspended.
Now, Alfredsson is out of the lineup for at least a week with the first (officially diagnosed) concussion of his career. As Ian Mendes pointed out on Twitter, the illegal hit means there's a chance the captain could be out of the lineup on November 11, 2011 (11/11/11, a fitting date for number 11), a game set at the start of the season to be a fundraiser for the Royal Ottawa Hospital Foundation, a charity Alfredsson's become a significant member of. A suspension wouldn't have changed that fact, but the point of suspensions is to put forward obvious repercussions for rule violations in order to (hopefully) prevent future infractions.
At the dawn of the Brendan Shanahan era, it looked like we might get a stricter and clearer disciplinary system than was ever implemented under Colin Campbell. Over the course of ten days towards the end of September, the Shanabanhammer doled out nine suspensions totaling 60 games (29 pre-season, 31 regular season). In the month-long span since, he's only given out four suspensions, totaling six games plus an indefinite number for Andy Sutton.
The game hasn't magically cleaned up. Players are still making illegal hits. The difference now is that they're not being suspended for them
The Wheel of Justice has returned, it seems, and fans, media, and even players are now left scratching their heads wondering what's illegal and what isn't. Mike Fisher is one of those confused players. He was a victim of an illegal blindside hit to the head (very reminiscent of the one that ended Marc Savard's career), but Francois Beauchemin, the perpetrator of the hit, wasn't suspended, either. Fisher expressed his confusion on Twitter on Monday afternoon.
Suspensions are a tricky thing. General managers across the league are, in general, in favour of them... at least until it's one of their players who's being suspended. The NHLPA wants to protect its members' health, but it doesn't want them losing the money associated with the suspensions. The whole thing reeks of an unfortunate short-sightedness that completely misses the whole point of suspensions: Preventing future injuries.
Shanahan obviously had the freedom to impose extremely harsh suspensions during the pre-season, that much is obvious. It appears there has been some backlash, and some of Shanahan's power has been curbed. How, exactly, was he stripped of the power of the Shanabanhammer? Well, I imagine there was an epic confrontation between Brendan Shanahan and Gary Bettman that went a little something like this...
Bettman: You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy, Brendan.
Shanahan: And you are an old man, and a fool!
Bettman: Yes... I was a fool to think you were ready.
Colin Campbell: Gary...
Bettman: [to Campbell] NAY!
Bettman: [to Shanahan]: Brendan Shanahan, you have betrayed the express command of your Commissioner. Through your arrogance and stupidity, you have opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of predictable and fittingly harsh suspensions! You are unworthy of these realms! You are unworthy of your title! YOU ARE UNWORTHY of the players you have betrayed! I now take from you your power! In the name of my previous commissioner, and his commissioner before! I, Gary Bettman, CAST YOU OUT!
Silly jokes aside, the all-time greatest player to don an Ottawa Senators jersey (at least of the modern variety) is now going to miss at least a few games during what may be his final season in the NHL due to an illegal, predatory check to the head with an elbow; a very serious infraction of at least three rules in the NHL's rulebook. Despite this fact, the deed has gone virtually unpunished (a two-minute minor penalty is of little consequence here). Some violations are penalized harshly, some go unpunished.
This, friends, is the National Hockey League: Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
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This annoys me so very much.
You can say what you want about “good hits” but the fact is that Alfie was hit FOR NO REASON. In addition to which, he was obviously elbowed in the head.
Now here’s the kicker.
Alfie is loved. Adored by the city. And I’m willing to bet that the guys in the locker room feel the same way. However, if ANY of them try and provoke Wolski on November 9th and he doesn’t bite, we would definitely face further action from the league. And knowing the refs, if Neil starts something and steps even close to (not over) the line, they’ll book him to “set the tone.” Which is BS.
Shanahan doled out a lot of punishments at the beginning of the year, and I can guarantee you someone important didn’t like it and complained. As a result, we’re now dealing with the SSDD.
/endrant
It's complete garbage, you're right
Exactly the kind of hit the league claims it’s interested in taking out of the game.
Arguments will be made about where Alfredsson was looking, and about Wolski’s intent, but those should only be determinants of the length of the suspension—not of whether or not there should be one. There is no doubt in my mind that Wolski should have been suspended for this hit. It’s plain as day.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 1, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not much for belligerent retribution
But you would have thought that someone would have skated up to Wolski after it happened and at least gave him a facewash….
Konopka, Carkner (I know they were thrown out & injured) Neil, Smith, Winchester, Foligno, Condra, Greening, Cowen, Phillips – WTF? So much for nobody taking liberties on our stars.
Now. Late hit, principle point of contact was the head. HIt with elbow. No attempt to avoid. No last second moves by the player who didn’t see the hit coming. – Despite all the video’s being sent out from the NHL for legal vs illegal, its clear that the NHL themselves don’t know, let alone the players. So how are they going to play? The same way they always have & they’ll keep their fingers crossed they don’t go over the line.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
I have no problems with no one retaliating. We took the power play and scored and ended up beating them.
It was up to Shanahan to punish Wolski and he failed. Not our fault.
An Ottawa Senators supporter in Toronto, Ontario. I am cool like that.
Yeah, this is part of the problem: League-instituted punishments leave no one feeling justice has been served, so there’s a feeling that vigilanteism is our only recourse if we’re trying to keep out players from getting injured. That’s just wrong, and it feeds right in to the “players policing themselves” argument.
I call bullshit. The police (Shanahan et al.) should be doing the policing.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 1, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Suspension or no suspension it doesn't sit well with me
The rest of the league sees that no one did anything when our star player got taken out with a targeted hit.
Again, vigilanteism isn’t what I’m looking for. Just getting in his face, pushing him around. A really solid, clean, hard body check later in the game. Just something that sends the message – don’t do that again.
I’m not saying that Neil needed to skate up to him, rip his helmet off and start pummelling him by any stretch of the imagination. I just didn’t like that no one on the team took a stand.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Maybe if it was earlier in the game. They were down 4-1 with something like 10-12 minutes left. They couldn’t afford to get off track and go hunting for one guy.
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No hunting.
I’m not one of those fans who wants the violence taken out of hockey, but calls for retaliation like this are a different story. Hit him cleanly, maybe fight him, but talking about hunting and calling for his head has me worried that someone will be pulled off the ice on a stretcher.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
I'm not suggesting hunting.
I just think there needs to be a response – from a team perspective – ‘hey, we’re not going to get pushed around’
I remember far to well the days of the Leafs running us all over the ice and us not responding to that in a team manner. At the very least there should have been 4 guys surrounding him on the whistle immediately after. As it was everyone skated away as if nothing happened while Alfie was laid out on the ice. You would have thought an action like that would have upset some of the guys on the roster – that you would have seem some sort of reaction indicating that they cared…. I didn’t see that, and it worries me. Team toughness is an important thing when it comes to forming a team and a bond between the players on it. It is an all for one and one for all mentality.
I suppose coming back and winning the game in a way does that as well, I just didn’t like the immediate response from the players on the ice.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
I agree with you
I think I’ve seen Alfredsson down on the ice one too many times after a questionable hit with no response from the team (whether it was to check if Alfie was okay, or to let the other team know that plays like that aren’t going to fly) and the first person to show up is the athletic coach…
by SuckItTrebek on Nov 1, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
No one knew who did it.
The commentators were talking about how players (Philips, who I think was the thoughest guy on the ice at the time) were looking for the number that did it but had no idea who laid the hit. I’m sure if they noticed they would have done something.
No one knew who hit him...
You could see phillips looking around trying to figure out who hit him since it was completely out of the way and unexpected. Had Neil/Smith/Anyone with guts seen him do it shit wouldve gone down…
The sens did respond with their greatest weapon of all THE POWERPLAY and we ended up winning …
I hope Neil hits him really hard then ZSmith rails on him without giving a crap then Konopka offers what appears to be a hug of feeling sorry for him but then crushes him to death….
But ya this is all bullshit.
Ya that's what I thought as well
The hit sort of came out of know where, it really didn’t look like any other Sens player on the ice knew who hit him.
And maybe Shanny just doesn’t like us, remember the cycling joke? Ha ha just kidding. Anyways, here’s to hoping the next game ends with the Sens coming out on top with a score of like 6-0 or something, that would be the sweetest revenge.
I thought that at least 2 players did see it happen
Maybe they didn’t.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
I wouldn't be surprised if short-sighted complaints are behind this.
Shanahan was able to dole out suspensions like Hallowe’en candy in the pre-season because nobody cared, but I expect that owners, GMs, and players representing the NHLPA got on his case, or what is more likely, appealed over his head to Bettman once things started affecting games that matter and players’ wages. I don’t hold views such as ‘Bettman is ruining the NHL’, but to his discredit I imagine he stepped in after, as The Tif said, ‘someone important… complained’. More than anyone else he had the ability to back Shanahan up.
What is more disappointing, of course, is that after Shanahan went to all the trouble to explain his decisions clearly for all to see, the business which resulted in his laying down of the Shanabanhammer was undoubtedly conducted behind closed doors.
Introducing change into a system or organisation which finds the status quo conducive to its interests is always difficult. I think Shanahan may have miscalculated how swiftly he could change things, but ultimately the blame for the sudden dearth of well-deserved suspensions lies at others’ feet.
I can’t see how you can blame anyone other than Shanahan. This is his role in the NHL, it’s his responsibility, and not just to the league but to the players and fans as well.
His boss can’t force him to do anything, he can only fire him if he doesn’t listen.
I’m sure there were outside pressures, but there always will be. This is a Shanabanfail.
by BD Rebuilders on Nov 1, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know.
I agree that the buck ultimately stops at Shanahan’s desk, but failure doesn’t occur in a vacuum.
Rediculous
When Konopka was ejected from that game, I thought it was mostly a hockey play deserving 2min, but I resolved that if the NHL wanted to remove dangerous hits then I won’t complain. Naiveté
This pretty much wipes away Shanahan’s goodwill. He should at least demonstrate the reasoning behind his decision. Hoping he gets boo’d at that game on the 9th.
Naiveté is something I was thinking about, too
Were we all just naive in thinking the league would actually take tangible action in trying to curb hits to the head? It sure looks like it.
Rule 48 isn’t going to do it. Giving a two-minute penalty won’t deter people from targeting the head any more than it deters players from slashing or tripping. Multi-game suspensions and major penalties, though… those have serious repercussions.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 1, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Serious repercussions
Yes that is what is supposed to happen….suspensions and penalties etc. However, I believe the ball is in the SENS court…..its up to them to decide how to deal with it since Shanahan didnt do anything. November 9th.
Seriously. Don't talk like that.
The best revenge is to once again beat the Rangers and prove that we are a better hockey team. All of this frothing at the mouth sounds way too much like the Canucks calling for Moore’s head back in 2004 and that was one of the worst incidents in hockey, as far as I can remember.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
No kidding.
It’s wrong to go into a game knowing you’re going to do something illegal or stupid. If somebody lines him up for a solid, clean hit, I’ll give a half smile. But I’m looking at winning that game, with our captain back in the lineup, not knocking out Wolski.
Thank you
For a minute there I was starting to think I was the lone voice of reason.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
I think you are misunderstanding people
No one, except maybe one, is saying we should take out Wolski.
An Ottawa Senators supporter in Toronto, Ontario. I am cool like that.
Well there's at least one
But there are also other people who want to make sure Wolski gets banged around and generally talking about roughing up the Rangers next time we play them. It’s way too easy for that to escalate, not to mention it’s stupid to go into a game in the mindset of “I’ve got to show these guys I’m tough” instead of “I’ve got to win this game”.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
Players often target players, you know like Boston making the Sedins “uncomfortable” etc. It doesn’t make for exciting hockey, but it doesn’t necessarily lead to brawls.
It’s like Neil targetting Heatley. There is nothing wrong with a clean hit.
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No
But anything against Wolski on Nov 9 is going to be seen as retribution. That means we’ll pretty much automatically get stiffer penalties and possibly even misconduct/suspensions. That doesn’t help us win games.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
Referee's occasionally make poor calls
I understand your concern, and agree with your stance that the team must be careful not to get carried away with retribution. That doesn’t mean that Chris Neil and the like can’t go looking for good, clean, hard hits – that are hockey plays – during the course of the game on Wolski. Exactly as Adnan stated above re Neil on Heatley. To suggest that Referee’s will call the game unfairly because of past history is unfair to them. Yes, occasionally calls go against our team, same as other teams. But while the Referee’s may be more atttive to plays against Wolski, they aren’t going to make calls that aren’t there. They call what they see.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
What is wrong with you people.
I didnt say take him out. Where did I say that….. “its up to them to decide how to deal with it.” I would like to see the sens lay down the law on him. It doesnt mean a cheap shot, or “take him out”….Seriously this is not rec league hockey.
You are right, I apologise
You didn’t say that.
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To be fair, you did say below:
I hope that Neil or someone steps up to the plate and knocks that dude out.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
I agree
I don’t care about retribution, II’d rather Shanahan get boo’d then Wolski get injured.
by BD Rebuilders on Nov 1, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Wolski
It was a cheap shot and Shanahan is shooting himself in the foot by doing nothing. Alfi passed the puck well ahead of the hit. Wolski changed direction and aimed for his head. Is the hit on Kane not going to be suspended now? I hope that Neil or someone steps up to the plate and knocks that dude out. Brawl for all I care. They have to to make sure nobody thinks they’ll be a push over….its too early in the season and you’ve got lots of young guys that are willing and able. If Shanahan doesnt take care of it off the ice….take care of it on the ice… November 9th.
I agree with you, but I don't.
I’d love to see the team do that. But then we run into risky territory. The refs will be LOOKING for trouble. If they so much as sniff it coming out, then we could be heavily penalized. And you know that if anyone checks Wolski “badly,” they’ll be heavily penalized for it.
End of the day, beat them on the score sheet and get the two points for the Captain. Losing the game and collecting a ton of PIMs doesn’t help our team.
Agreed
2 points is important….but so is respect.
You earn respect by playing hockey.
If I wanted to cheer for a team of goons, I’d move to Philadelphia.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
You're the one who suggested knocking Wolski out and brawling.
What else is that if not being a goon?
Oh Captain, my Captain!
by AlfieGirl on Nov 1, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No retribution becuse
on November 9th, we are going for our 1oth straight win!! Go Sens Go!!!
No.
That didn’t go well for Vancouver when they did that to Dominic Moore. We’re classier than that.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
*Steve Moore, I mean.
Not the one who’s still in the NHL, the one who got paralyzed.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
No to your no.
Its our captain, our leader and our best player. This is no Bertuzzi/ Moore…..so far far far from it. Toe to toe….make him pay a price…not a cheap shot for a cheap shot. call him on. Call on Callahan…he’s their captain. You dont take liberties on the best player on a team and get a 2 min penalty (they scored on it PHEW) November 9th lets settle it…..and get the 2 points.
No seriously
How is this different than the leadup to Bertuzzi/Moore? This is how it started. An injury to a team captain and not enough punishment for it, so the Canucks took matters into their own hands the way you’re saying the Sens should. Then it left Moore a paraplegic.
How is this “so far far far from it” exactly?
Oh Captain, my Captain!
Completely agree.
I don’t want anyone to get hurt. And talk like this turns it from being a (hypothetical) bad hit to being a premeditated one.
Exactly.
This got Canucks officials sued by Steve Moore. This is the kind of thing that takes it out of regular playing-a-dangerous-game injury and puts it into aggravated assault territory. The kind that could even warrant criminal charges (and serious ones, not just charges for show like against Chara).
Oh Captain, my Captain!
You dont discuss it in the dressing room
You just do it when the moment happens….ie dont chase Wolski around on ice and punch him in back of head. He’s a tough guy….he’ll step up.
You know what, I'm done answering you.
Maybe this is bitchy but you sound incredibly ignorant and shortsighted. Thankfully, I believe that the team has better judgment than what’s shown in your comments.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
Thats what i figured
Roll over. This fights over….lol
Just joking good arguments.
Cheers to watching a good hockey game on November 9th.
If you were to ask Alfie,
He will be the first one to tell you not to retaliate but win the game. Lose the battle but win the war. Focus on the big picture.
Alfie is hurt
That happened. Someone has already been hurt. I dont mind the people that roll over and take it. Thats fine…I just dont.
Then you fight Wolski.
I’d rather my team focus on winning the game than trying to render one guy unconscious.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
didnt say render him unconscious.
What is ur hang up with this. Wolski is a tough guy….dare i say goon. He stepped over the line and knocked a Captain out. Now he should have to answer. Im not saying knock him out or cross check him….just call him out. He knows the code. Do you?
Uh.... You did say that. In this thread. In the first post. By you.
I hope that Neil or someone steps up to the plate and knocks that dude out
Alternative
Start a boo Shanahan campaign for the next home game, or get a big sign insulting him. Write to local media.
You don’t play on the team, so the only way to not roll over and take it is to take action as a fan.
(I’m really trying hard to get people to chant Shanahan’s name mockingly)
by BD Rebuilders on Nov 1, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Moore/Wolski
The Steve Moore incident happened because he was too stupid to “play the game”. All he had to do was drop the gloves, dance a bit with another guy, be it Bertuzzi or another player, take a few shots and go down and he’d sit in the sin bin for 5 minutes, the problem would have been solved, justice served. Instead he tried to be the bigger man and avoid an altercation and he paid for it.
I don’t agree with the price he paid in the end and how everything went down, but I do wholeheartedly believe Steve Moore failed to abide by the unwritten hockey code. You do something shitty, then expect to be able to run away from the retribution? To me it was like he poked a sleeping bear, then expected to be able just walk away from the situation like nothing happened.
If Wolski has half a brain, he’ll drop the mitts with someone like Zack Smith, sit in the sin bin for 5 and let that be the end of it.
I tend to agree with you
But if a guy doesn’t want to dance that doesn’t mean you should blindside him with a punch to the head. That’s an assault and Bertuzzi was charged accordingly. Read my post below on Wolski, he won’t drop the mitts. In fact what makes me despise him even more is his comment that it was a clean check. It wasn’t clean, it was late and he should have been suspended for intent to injure.
Moore had one career fight.
As far as any responsibility for what happend to Moore falling on his own shoulders for failing to abide by the ‘hockey code’, I call BS. That one career fight happend to be on March 8th, 2004. Right after Worrell & May fought, Moore dropped the gloves with Cooke @ 6:36 of the 1st period. (According to hockeyfights.com, it is a fight that Moore won). It happened to be later that same fight filled game, with Colorado running up the score that Bertuzzi attacked Moore after Moore refused to fight again.
Regardless, this is not the type of retribution that needs/should be paid Wolski. It is not (should not be) an eye for an eye league. If Wolski doesn’t want to fight the next time these two teams meet, that is his own perogative. However, I hope he’s prepared to face some pretty stiff body checks from the likes of Neil, Smith, Konopka, Condra, Winchester, Cowen & Runblad – maybe he’ll learn to check cleanly by example.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Moore did dance
If I recall correctly, Moore fought Matt Cooke earlier in that game. But because the fight was more sweater tugging than anything else, Crawford and Bertuzzi et al. felt the need to look for additional revenge. And we know how that worked out for all concerned parties.
by creasecrasher on Nov 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
But once you get in that situation where you’re going after someone to retaliate for a soft call, it’s way too easy for emotions to escalate. That game was violent enough that Bettman (I believe) called the refs in between periods to figure out what to do to keep it from getting worse. Regardless of whether the person you’re targeting will actually drop the gloves, it’s way too easy to get carried away and end up with someone seriously injured.
Oh Captain, my Captain!
Today, the part of Gary Bettman will be played by Sir Anthony Hopkins
But yeah, I don’t know what happened to the pre-season suspension party. Maybe it was a deliberate ploy to dole out a lot of suspensions in the pre-season in the hopes that it would lead to cleaner play in the regular season?
Oh Captain, my Captain!
I think that it sounded great in theory
And then it seems that everyone got whiny in practise…
by SuckItTrebek on Nov 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait, you think it meant we started the season with cleaner play and then things went back to normal?
Or you think everyone whined too much about the suspensions against their team and so Shanahan stopped Shanabanning people?
Oh Captain, my Captain!
Ummm both?
It seems like Shanahan actually had some sort of ball rolling and it seems like the wheels fell off. I don’t see why the wheels would fall off other than private complaints.
by SuckItTrebek on Nov 1, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
On a mostly unrelated note
My little brother went to high school with Wolski. Not the brightest guy that Wolski.
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I didn't read all the comments, but
Here is what Kerry Fraser thinks on the subject. I also posted a fanshot.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=379366
PRAISE ALFIE!!!!
by High Priest of Alfie on Nov 1, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
Thank you for that
Saw in one of the comments under the article that I’ll paraphrase: When one of the best referee’s ever states that the NHL (Shanahan) was wrong – perhaps you should revisit what happened.
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
Fraser is talking about the in-game penalty
And the wording change to rule 48 that doesn’t allow for a 5 minute major. Doesn’t say anything about the no-suspension decision.
Respect my ass
I agree that it sucks that Alfy got hurt but the only acceptable revenge for me is to get stronger as a group, score on the Power Play, and beat that team… and we did all of that.
A good hard legal check is what’s called for or someone can fight the offending player if they choose, but no vengeful head hunting please. I fail to see how that gets anyone respect.
I like to see Konopka hit guys hard legally but beyond that any goonery that he happens to bring does not bring us respect. On the contrary.
I’ll tell you that when I see a staged fight between two goons, I turn the TV off, because I am embarassed since this kind of crap is just so not what hockey is about. And it fuels near-sighted potential fans who think that hockey is too much of a violent sport that they shouldn’t watch.
And I like what Kerry Fraser has to say. He’s a much better blogger than he was a referee.
Staged fights are really pathetic
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I think everyone (99%) who has commented on this post can agree with all of this
Except for the Kerry Fraser being a better blogger than referee part – that seems to have some extra subjective bias to it… lol
Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.
WE ARE THE 99 PER CENT
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 1, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you have in mind we occupy?
If you say NYC where the league office is, I am all for it. Passport is ready and we can visit all the great jazz clubs in town. But we I am not going to pitch a tent: one of the 5 star hotels will do just fine.
OCCUPY SHANAHAN'S OFFICE
Oh Captain, my Captain!
by AlfieGirl on Nov 1, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Giving Wolski his just deserts
First of all Brad77 I don’t know how much hockey you watch, but Mr. Wolski is certainly not a fighter or a goon. He has one fight in his whole career. He is supposed to be a skill player, but his stock has been falling since his rookie year. He was benched earlier this season and I suspect it may have been due to soft play ie not finishing his checks. Rest assured that he will refuse to fight if the invitation is made which is even more cowardly than the filthy cheapshot he threw on Alfredsson. He should step up and take his medicine. I agree that the lack of suspension is mind boggling to say the least. Therefore, I hope that he gets what he deserves which is to feel pain. Any opportunity that one of our players has to inflict pain on him within the rules of the game, I pray that we will show that there is not an open season on cheap shotting our elite players. Wolski can’t even tie Alfie’s skates. Thank you all for this interesting debate.
I stand corrected
Sometimes when I get ranting….I just get rolling and dont check my stats or my head. He has very few PIMs…Never occured to me that Wolski was the 3rd shooter in the shoot out and MISSED….Sweet!! Someone made the comment…Shanahan is an ex Ranger. HA HA. I’m pumped for the November 9th rematch. 1st and foremost I want the sens to win…that is the ultimate retribution. A close second is to see Wolski answer whomever calls him out.
I agree …a great debate thanks to all who got involved even that Alfie Girl!!!
Rangers fan here...
Just visiting. When I saw the Konopka hit, I didn’t understand why he got called for a penalty. They then showed the replay, which to me clearly exhibited that it was a clean hit, and then immediately after they showed Konopka being escorted off the ice… to which I could only say “huh?” The fact that Konopka didn’t receive any suspension or fine only verified the fact that he made a clean hit. Sucks for the Sens that Konopka had to sit out the rest of the game on a B.S. call.
As for Wolski, I don’t know how he wasn’t suspended.
Those were two plays that were distinctly supposed to be cleared up by the new rules, but were obviously poorly mishandled.
Exactly
It’s the mishandling that’s the problem. At least the on-ice referees have the excuse of a fast-moving game in which they can’t possibly see everything; there’s no excuse for Shanahan missing an obvious call on the Wolski hit.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 1, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad to see that everyone agrees that the refs/Shanahan were ridiculous.
When the whole league, even the fans of the team in question, agree on something like this and the disciplinarian doesn’t, you know something’s wrong. Appreciate your honest opinion.
Disappointing
Shanahan seemed to be off to a great start. It is really disappointing that for whatever reasons ranging from politics to incompetence he seems to have lost his way already. What a shame for everyone.
Rangers are in town next week.
Wolski will be booed for his illegal hit, as he deserves to be.
The unfortunate thing is Wolski is only half of the guilty party here. It’s Shanahan’s fault for letting it go. Does the guy have something against Alfredsson or Murray (might have been his old coach)?
I hope he is booed
We’ll do what we can to ensure he knows we’re not happy with him.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 2, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
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