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Will this be Daniel Alfredsson's last season? (Photo by Elsa/Getty Images)

Only three more days to go until the Senators begin their quest for Nail Yakupov the 2011-2012 Stanley Cup. Here are today's links, brought to you by me, the official ranter of Silver Seven Sens.

General Sens News

  • This one hurts. Daniel Alfredsson admits that the upcoming season might be his last and he will play like it is. He also says that while he doesn't want a trade right now, things could change in February or March. With only $1 million due to Alfredsson next season, there is a very good chance that he hangs it up after this season, especially if the team is no closer to the playoffs. I guess I should off on putting an 'A' on my Spezza jersey. (Sportsnet)
  • Les trios d'aujourd'hui sont: 1) Milan Michalek - Jason Spezza - Nikita Filatov; 2) Colin Greening - Mika Zibanejad - Daniel Alfredsson; 3) Nick Foligno - Stéphane Da Costa - Chris Neil; 4) Erik Condra - Zack Smith - Bobby Butler. So the the top two lines are the same, Da Costa replaces Smith on the third line, Smith replaces Zenon Konopka on the fourth line and Konopka sits. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
  • The defensive pairings stay the same with Rundblad as the seventh man. The pairings again are: 1) Sergei Gonchar - Jared Cowen; 2) Erik Karlsson - Filip Kuba; 3) Chris Phillips - Brian Lee. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
  • Peter Regin returns to practice, but no hitting allowed on him today. According to Steve Lloyd, he looks good and has a full range of motion on his shots. (Steve Lloyd)
  • Paul MacLean sounds like he might be alternating Jared Cowen and David Rundblad in and out of the lineup at the start of the season. (Ottawa Sun)
  • The Senators have three older defencemen in Chris Phillips (33), Filip Kuba (34), Sergei Gonchar (37) and three very young in Erik Karlsson (21), David Rundblad (20), Jared Cowen (20). Matt Carkner (30) and Brian Lee (24) are the others. You have to think Kuba is gone after this season, Gonchar after next season and Phillips possibly the season after. How long will it be until the Senators ice a defence of Rundblad, Cowen, Karlsson and three out of Brian Lee, Mark Borowiecki, Eric Gryba and Patrick Wiercioch? (Ottawa Citizen)
  • The Senators are hoping Nikita Filatov can be the offensive spark plug that the club needs. He had a very good camp defensively, and while he didn't score a goal, he did get three assists and led the club with fifteen shots. Filatov obviously prefers playing with Jason Spezza, but points out that his line with Chris Neil and Zack Smith created chances as well. (Ottawa Citizen)
  • Filatov is definitely confident in his abilities. In a fantasy hockey draft with Russian journalist Pavel Lysenkov, Filatov drafted...himself. HA! So awesome. (Pavel Lysenkov)
  • The Senators might struggle, but if Zenon Konopka gets enough games, they'll at least goon it up frequently. Not particularly sure how much he will "protect" Erik Karlsson, David Rundblad or Mika Zibanejad though. I will say though, Konopka's nickname of Chris Neil as "Chrissie" did make me laugh. I am going to call him that from now on. (CBC)
  • The Senators weigh in on the goal song choices in this video. I haven't seen it but from twitter responses, Daniel Alfredsson picked Nickelback while Bobby Butler and Erik Karlsson said anything but Nickelback. (Ottawa Senators)

Probably the most important video you will ever watch this season:


More after the jump.

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General Hockey News

  • The Yahoo! bloggers make their predictions for the Hart Trophy and other major awards, as well as the first coach to be fired, biggest surprise team (both good and bad) as well as the biggest free agent bust. (Yahoo!)
  • The Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh Penguins will have a joint effort to raise funds for the families of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl. They will wear commemorative patches at their 13 October game, as well as a ceremonial face-off between Alexander Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin. (Yahoo!)
  • TSN released their list of the top 50 players in the NHL. Sidney Crosby leads the way at #1, followed by Alexander Ovechkin, Pavel Datsyuk, Daniel Sedin and Henrik Sedin rounding out the top five. There are no Senators on the list this year, Daniel Alfredsson was the only one last year. (1-1011-2021-3031-4041-50)

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The Prince of Denmark

If there’s no hitting on Regin allowed today shouldnt that apply to Steve Lloyd talking about how good he’s looking?

How is anyone supposed to top Sterling Snakehouse?

by worsteverything on Oct 4, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

JR in da house!

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Alfie should retire a Senator.

Going for a cup is a ballsy move, but if he doesn’t get it, I think it weakens his case for the HHOF. Playing his entire career with one team is his selling point, especially given how few players do that these days. Plus, longest serving active captain iirc.

by The Tif on Oct 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt anyone will disagree with you

No one (at least no self-respecting Sens fan) legitimately thinks he should be traded. But no one will begrudge him the chance to do it if he wants to.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is a perfect summary

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

Part of me wishes he would retire just so we can stop having this conversation.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then become a scout or a coach or something

I can’t go cold turkey.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see him move the front office like Yzerman did

I definitely believe he has the smarts to be a successful GM if he wants to be.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or that

That works. And it’s not like BMur (or anyone) could stand in his way.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would cement him as a god

Especially if he were successful.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or as a retirement present, Melnyk could make him part owner

Along with GM and head coach. That would cement his god status.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he could handle those two at once

Even though I know you’re joking.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Three

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two

Being owner isn’t hard. You hang out at a bar, cheer your team like mad, and say stupid stuff every few months. Alfie could do that in his sleep.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just pointing out that I listed three titles!

A hat trick of titles, if you will. And of course he could handle it. Alfie can do anything. ANYTHING.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can't back up his guarantees

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure he Will remain

a part of the Sen management team in some capacity right after his playing days are over. He is pretty committed to staying in Ottawa what with his kids being born here and all.

by whatsinaname on Oct 4, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Alfie will take on a role with the team,

But I don’t think it will be a very prominent role right away. Alfie wants to coach his kids in hockey and be a family man for a few years. I would be surprised to see Alfie in a prominent front office role in the next 5 years. He may grow into a role with the team that increases with responsibility as time goes by. That I can see. I think he’ll be a coach before he becomes GM. I’ve never met him, but to me that is the character he seems to have.

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 5, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he can't

because he is destined to live in Ottawa…..call me inflexible, but that’s not negotiable.

by whatsinaname on Oct 4, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leaving the door open a crack

Alfie’s line hasn’t really changed the last few years, although it keeps getting turned into “news”. He basically always says that his intent is to retire a Senator and that it probably wouldn’t be the same to win elsewhere. I don’t know why he leaves that option open (publicly), but (a) it’s not news and (b) I doubt it’s much in the cards. I can’t see the organization seeking to trade him, and I can’t seem him becoming unequivocal enough to demand a trade. This could be a fun (if difficult) season, and he can help mentor the Swedish future (especially) of this club. And who knows… if he sticks around next year, they might even give him another playoff appearance. (This year seems unlikely, although I won’t be upset if Anderson and the rest of the team work some miracles for the deserving Captain.)

by sensory_experience on Oct 4, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

He's always been so diplomatic, though

He’s had chances to throw guys under the bus and he never has. I’m not surprised he leaves the door a crack open. Even if in his head he’s thinking, “I’m going to retire with Ottawa, you’re an idiot,” he’d never say it.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the thing, Alfie is a team guy, so if the team came to him and said they had a deal they can’t refuse he’d be enough of a good soldier to accept it for the good of the team. That’s the door being open a crack.

by modsuperstar on Oct 4, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it would ever be a situation of him not standing in the way of a deal that's good for the team

Given how few GMs tender offer sheets for RFAs nowadays, I’d be really surprised to hear that anyone made an offer for Alfie without some public comments first to the effect that Alfie wants to go make a Cup run. I get the feeling it’d be the team not standing in the way of his chance at a Cup rather than him not standing in the way of a super amazing deal.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teams will make offers

If Alfie has a good year- 35 – 40 points by the trade deadline, teams will be making offers. Bryan Murray’s job is to listen to offers and make a deal if he feels it will improve the club. I don’t see it being public like it was for the Sundin deal, or even Phillips last year. If there is an offer, Alfie will be approached in private and will have a discussion. Melnyk will be consulted and there will be a team announcement, followed shortly by a presser – similar to Bourque or Smyth leaving their respective clubs.
If Alfie doesn’t think the club that made the offer has a shot at the cup, he’ll turn the deal down and we’ll never hear a thing about it. The only stuff we’re going to hear will be media speculation trying to stir the pot and stroke their egos.

GM’s throw names around at each other all the time. It isn’t news unless the press picks up on it and prints it. The press makes it sound like its such a big deal.
It probably happens every day. They call, inquire about a player they’d like, and what it would cost to get him. If they don’t like it, they move on. There may be a dozen names tossed back and forth. It’s just talk until something sticks.

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 5, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alfy oh Alfy!

As much as I love Alfy, if he wants to, I’d love to see him win a cup on another team before he hangs it up, and if that gets us a 2nd rounder in a great draft year, well so much the better.

I’d probably cheer for ALMOST any team that took him for a playoff run.

Besides, later on we around trade deadline time, we should be angling for more picks in the top two rounds because there is some great talent available. I’d love to see a package deal where we end up with two top ten guys in this draft.

That is assuming we don’t surprise everyone and make the playoffs.

by Marvellous on Oct 4, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see him weighing the value of playing for only a million bucks next year versus the grind of another potentially downer of a season. For the capologists: Is it technically feasible for the Senators to offer Alfie an optional extension of his contract for a woefully small amount, but to pay him – in next year’s playing year – a “signing bonus” that would properly compensate him for putting in another season?

by Be_rad on Oct 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

They’d have to do the same thing as they did with his last contract. Buy out the mil and pay it over 2 years, then offer him more money to come back.

by modsuperstar on Oct 4, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really understand how that worked

Because my understanding was that under the current CBA, any player bought out of his contract is an UFA and the team that bought that player out is unable to sign that player for a period of one year.

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 5, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

They didn't buy out his contract

They declined team options to extend it, and declining them came with a $700k bonus to Alfie. It was definitely not something in the team’s favour, but it was the right thing to do for Alfie.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 5, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't do that

The CBA doesn’t allow you to buy out a contract and then renegotiate it. The team which bought out the player can’t re-sign him (at least I don’t think so).

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 5, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It isn't about the money for Alfie

If he’s playing it is because he wants to play. It wouldn’t matter if it was $500K or $5mil on the last year of the contract. He’d play because he’d feel he could contribute, or he wouldn’t play because he’d feel like he couldn’t contribute. That will be the deciding factor for Alfie, not money.

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 5, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

I think if he thinks we’re one year from competing, he’ll sign a short and cheap contract and stay on. Otherwise, he’ll retire gracefully.

by The Tif on Oct 5, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who likes the looks of today's practice lines?

With Z-Kon sitting, it leaves Spezza, Zibanejad, Da Costa and Smith as the four centres. This is as it should. I’m no great believer in the philosophy that the third and fourth lines should be composed of different kinds of players from the ostensible “Top Six.” The Spezza and Zibanejad lines are well-balanced. Foligno and Neil more than make up for Da Costa’s lack of physicality, and they probably have enough offensive acumen to complement his playmaking abilities. On a deeper team, the fourth line of Condra-Smith-Butler would likely be the top line in the AHL; as it is, they provide a decent mix of scoring and checking.

As long as Mika’s with the big club, I see no problem in sitting Konopka and rolling four balanced lines. If Murray ultimately decides to ship MZ back to Djugardens, a healthy Regin could slot in to his spot with Greening and Alfie.

by Andy Dax on Oct 4, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I like both the forwards and defensive pairings as well

I do think Regin will take Da Costa’s spot when healthy even if Zibanejad stays. But otherwise you are spot on.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

If Mika stays, it seems like Da Costa might end up in Bingo, in which case I totally agree that Regin would take his spot. Just because Regin doesn’t scrap doesn’t mean he can’t be an effective third centre. He and Foligno are similar in that they always look like they should be producing more offensively than they actually do. Maybe playing them together will help?

by Andy Dax on Oct 4, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foligno-Regin-Neil may or may not produce offense, but they will be responsible defensively.

by DW19 on Oct 4, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would prefer to see Neil and Butler flipped

But I don’t really mind these lines at all

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goals scoring this year

More on the lines:

Now I know the lines will all jumble, but for now here is how I project the total for each line, now there will be injuries, but the players will be replaced by someone:

1) Michalek – Spezza – Filatov → 75 goals
2) Greening – Zibanejad – Alfredsson → 50 goals
3) Foligno – Regin – Neil —> 30 goals
4) Condra – Smith – Butler —> 35 goals

Defensive pairings
1) Gonchar – Cowen → 15 goals
2) Karlsson – Kuba → 20 goals
3) Phillips – Lee → 5 goals

That’s a total of 230 goals and I don’t really feel like I am reaching here.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Definetly reaching on line 4

We have seen that butler needs spezza… smith and condra are not close to be 10 goal guys especially with 4th line minutes…

by Beanster on Oct 4, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Smtih will scored 10 goals this year

Condra by the way scored 6 in 25 games last year, though you are right not on 4th line minutes. But okay yeah I realise totally reaching on line 4. :P

If you move Butler to line 3 and Neil down to 4, then I think Condra – Smith – Neil would be good for 25 goals at 10-10-5.

So my revised estimate is 220.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks doable, 220 goals

assuming the main characters all play 75+ games in the season. And if Anderson and company can keep goals against at 210, with a goal differential of +10, (based on last year), we may have a chance of sneaking into the playoff. That’s a drop of 40 goals against vs last year’s team. Is that doable?

by whatsinaname on Oct 4, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

230 GF with 210 GA is probably a best case scenario for this year’s club. If everything went right it might happen. A few inopportune injuries and/or slumps and the reverse could easily happen.

by DW19 on Oct 4, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Extreme best case scenarios

we scored 192 and let in approx 250 last year. You’re numbers represent almost 40 more goals and 40 fewer let in. An 80 point swing.

by Be_rad on Oct 5, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would argue that last year was an extreme, extreme bad case scenario.

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by Adnan on Oct 5, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

??????

There, the question mark I meant to leave on the end of my headline got left off.

I agree last year was not indicative of what the team we had could do, had we had better goaltending and better coaching environment.

Not sure, though, that the changes made equal 80 goals.

by Be_rad on Oct 5, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the problem with predictions

The players we started with last season were not supposed to underperform that badly, but they did. The players now SEEM to have the potential for 220-230 goals and Anderson last year showed the POTENTIAL of a (210GA/82games)2.56 GA (with Auld of course). An 80 goal swing is huge, hence my question “is it doable?”

Only way to find out, let the season begins.

by whatsinaname on Oct 5, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you about how much of an aberration last year was for many players and how we have improved in many areas this year. But we are also counting on a fair number of young players to play big minute positions. Can they handle the grind? Will the young D-men develop quickly enough into decent defensive zone coverage?

Last year I doubted the outsiders who had us projected so low. Basically, they were right about our goaltending, but even they didn’t project what would happen to so many players. So this year, the outsiders are continuing to doubt us. I’m guessing they’re aware of Anderson and our new coach. So what are they basically saying? That we don’t have enough scoring and that we are vulnerable due to a young d-corps. I think they probably undervalue Filatov and other additions up front, and that our d-men will probably be better than anticipated. Not sure, however, that we are 80 goals better.

by Be_rad on Oct 5, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

That’s why I only think that can happen if absolutely everything goes right.

by DW19 on Oct 5, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is absolutely doable

How many times did you hit your hand off your head and think “I could have stopped that puck” when Brian Elliott whiffed at one. I think at least 40 times. There were days when Elliott couldn’t have stopped a beach ball.. literally. With Anderson in net and healthy, our GA drops by 40 and all of our D-men have better years than last year.
As for scoring more goals, I agree with ‘whatsinaname’ above. All of our main characters – Spezza, Michalek, Alfredsson have to play in 70+ games and 3 of the following: Filatov, Zibanejad, Butler, Greening, Foligno & Regin have to have years like we HOPE they will, or all 6 have to be above average expectations. With Karlsson, Kuba, Runblad moving the puck from the back end, that should help the offense be successful. But an awful lot has to go right for this team to increase goals for and make the playoffs.

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by havey03 on Oct 5, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting...

And almost entirely plausible, though unless you foresee Karlsson potting 19 goals, I’m not sure that your projection for him and Kuba is realistic. Also, as much as I love Z. Smith, I don’t think that fourth line can produce 35 goals if they’re getting fourth-line minutes.

by Andy Dax on Oct 4, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That said...

I think 30 goals is a conservative estimate for Foligno-Regin-Neil. Chrissie could pot 10 if he keeps playing like he did in the preseason, and the other two have the potential to score 15ish each.

by Andy Dax on Oct 4, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was out to lunch on line 4

I wish we had an edit button so I could stop looking crazy. ;)

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see where your coming from, though

They are all capable of scoring 10+ goals over the course of a season. But that’s assuming injuries and line-reshuffling will get them more ice time. At the end of the year, I would be shocked in the trio of Butler, Condra, and Z. Smith didn’t tally 35.

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by bacraswell on Oct 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

compared to my rough estimates yesterday,for goaltending, that would put us in roughly even territory, for and against. At that point, anything can happen

by Be_rad on Oct 4, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen this http://www.the6thsens.com/2011-articles/september/leagues-in-translation-zibanejad-edition33794.html ? It projects Mikachu at about .26 points per game, based on comparable stats from other players coming over, who each saw their points drop. He was a .33 ppg in the SEL and if he follows most other players in the same posiiton, he would drop in production and see about 21 pts.

by Be_rad on Oct 4, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think our 2nd line will score 50 goals

If Zibanejad is struggling, he’ll be sent down and Da Costa will replace him. My projections were more on a line basis, except with line 4 which was totally wrong.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

can Zibanejad be “sent down”? I thought he couldn’t go to Binghamton… wouldn’t “sending him down” require an airplane? :)

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 4, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha after 9 games

If he has 2 points in 9 games for example. If he has 7 in 9, then I’d say he’d beat 21 for the season.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind, I just got it. Meh!

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

200 goals... and right side strength

The lines aren’t set so we’re really adding up the total # of goals for line one, line two, etc. no matter who is on that line. The way I look at it, I figured we’d score a touch more than last year and come close to 200 goals. I also think we’ll defend better. Scoring will be like this:
Offence line 1: 70 goals If Butler ends up here, they’ll do better because Filatov can score elsewhere where Butler won’t.
2: 45 goals If center position solidifies, they’ll do better.
3: 30 goals
4: 10 goals Butler won’t be on this line for long.

Defence 1: 18 goals
2: 25 goals
3: 2 goals
Total 200 goals

Injuries will be a factor as to who plays where. Three scorers from the right side don’t fit onto two lines very well, and Da Costa and Z’jad also shoot right. So contrary to other clubs, we have an imbalance of scorers from the right side.

by Marvellous on Oct 5, 2011 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like the guy who says he wants to be single until his girlfriend calls him on it.

I’ve been totally in support of Alfie Bourque-ing it before he checks out. I even plan to get his jersey with whatever team he does that with if he does it. But then I read him leaving that door open a crack and it makes me truly sad on a certain level. Would still be 100 percent behind him, but goddammit would that sting.

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by Johnny_Spectacular on Oct 4, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

You've been totally supportive of it?

I’ve had mixed feelings. I would never fault him for it, but I feel like the Captain I know and love would never do it. I’d support his choice but would almost think less of him in a way. And would be utterly heartbroken to see him in another team’s jersey.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have, yeah

Not out of any desire to see him not on the team – I should probably clarify that I don’t support it over him retiring here. Mostly I just support the idea that if Alfie needs to go elsewhere to ensure he lifts the Cup before retiring, I can definitely get behind that. The guy deserves a cup. That said, seeing him in another jersey WOULD be brutal and I would much prefer that if he lifts a cup its while wearing a sharp suit as a key member of the Sens front office :p

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by Johnny_Spectacular on Oct 4, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

So like my position, you wouldn't begrudge him the chance but you'd rather it not happen

Really I think that’s standard among fans. No real Sens fan is going to stand in the way of Alfie Bourque-ing it, but no one wants to see it either.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you here...

I’ve never really know how to feel on the subject.

While he definitely deserves a cup, he’s probably not (realistically) going to get one with Ottawa. I like to think I would support his decision, if he wanted to chase one.

However, if that had to happen, then I would rather he put in this season with the Sens (even if that means shutting it down early), and maybe go at next year’s deadline. That way, he can sign back here as a UFA in the off-season, and retire a Senator.

Wishful thinking, I guess, to assume that Alfie’s got two more in him… but then again, it is Alfie we’re talking about here.

ALFIE! ALFIE! ALFIE!

by BigSlice on Oct 5, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alfie

He could literally go anywhere outside of Toronto (although I feel that’s a bit redundant to say – he would never do that), and I would adopt that team as my favorite for 3 months. Same way I cheer for the Phils in the post-season, despite my utter indifference towards their team. I wanna see Halladay get the ring he deserves. Plus, it would net Ottawa a decent return. Better to do it this way than how Sundin did the Leafs.
At then end, It’s up to Alfie. If he wants to go, he’s earned that. It’d hurt like hell, but I’d cheer for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Oct 4, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Vancouver or Washington

Those would be two places where I wouldn’t mind seeing Alfredsson go and win it all. Neither franchise has ever won the Cup, so if he could be the missing piece that put them over the top then that would a great addition to his legacy.

As long as it’s not a team I hate like the Flyers, Bruins or Leafs then I guess I could live with it.

by DW19 on Oct 4, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alfie would look great with the Martian Twins

by Be_rad on Oct 4, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I don’t know. I didn’t see them. were they not complementary?

by Be_rad on Oct 4, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else think keeping Zibanejad is a huge mistake?

I just don’t see the rush. It’s exciting, and he looks like he could hang. But it’s not about this year. It’s not even about next year. This is a three of four year project. And if that’s the organization’s goal (which it clearly seems to be), then this move makes zero sense. They run the risk of stunting his development, where there’s almost no risk of that happening in Sweden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Oct 4, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a little weary of keeping him. I was always of the opinion that it wouldn’t be the end of the world if he were to play in the 2nd best league in the world for a year while we lose all season here in North America. But I was reading something somewhere with one of the Murray’s I believe (maybe someone else in the organization), and they basically took the mentality that while, yes, playing in the SEL would still net him some good development for a year, they think that if someone is ready to play in the NHL, then they should play in the NHL. IF he is ready, he will develop better here then over there.

So…. is he NHL ready? I wouldn’t have thought he was before the preseason started, but he seems pretty damn close, if not there already. So basically, I would not be upset if he went to the SEL, but I don’t think I would be TOO worried if he stays here. I trust the organization enough to do what they think is best for him.

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 4, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another commentator I heard says that, for an 18 year old, he has played with men in th eSEL so he has the size, strength and experience to help him out. If they give him the Stamkos treatment, where they monitor his condition, give him some breaks, keep him on a strength and conditioning and nutrition regime designed to help him get stronger, I think he can thrive.

by Be_rad on Oct 4, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The have the 9 game window, but if he is not looking comfortable during those games then I agree with you.

by DW19 on Oct 4, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he's ready, he's ready.

While there may be a few examples of 18-year-olds being rushed into the NHL (see: Bluejackets, Thrashers, etc), there are also plenty of legit stars who broke into the league right out of junior and made an impact. Skinner or Hall, last year, for example, or Tavares a few years before that; they’re probably further along in their development now as a result. If Mika can hang with the big boys this year, he’ll be that much further along two or three seasons from now when some of the other offensive prospects in the pipeline (Silfverberg, Stone, Noeson, Puempel) are ready to crack the line-up. Plus, this may be his only chance to learn his craft from Alfie.

by Andy Dax on Oct 4, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm receptive to two of your arguments

Skinner may be the most appropriate parallel, as Hall and Tavares were both number one overall picks, which puts them in a different class. But for every Skinner, there’s probably two or three guys like Rico Fata. The fact is, we can’t know right now which one Zibanejad will be. Me personally, I’d rather err on the side of caution, and never have to find that out.
However, I will concede that Alfredsson’s tutelage could certainly help him. But does that make it worth it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbj53fZx2Y

by bacraswell on Oct 4, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every situation is unique, imagine being in Zibanejad's shoes

Imagine you worked hard all off-season, came to camp ready, beat out the competition in pre-season and genuinely earned a spot. Then, as an 18 year old, being on the brink of accomplishing a huge milestone through grit and determination, your coach tells you to wait it out a year in the SEL because, although you earned a spot, you might be too young and it eats a year of your contract. What would you do for the next year? Your NHL ready but need to wait…so you might wait instead of pushing yourself to improve.
It’s basically taking the air out of his tires, maybe he’ll look past it, but if he worked hard enough to make it he should be on the team. That being said, if in his 9 game tryout he looks weak, then send him back, give him something to think about for a year.
The common examples of players bombing is when they are rushed or when expectations are too high. But the onus should be on Zibanejad.

by BD Rebuilders on Oct 4, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really think that he legitimately earned a spot?

Because I don’t. He’s maybe ready later this season, but I don’t see it right now.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot depends on the first few games

If Zibanejad looks out of his depth then the decision to send him back to Sweden should be pretty easy. If he gets off to a hot start then things get tricky.

This reminds me a little of guys like Redden, Phillips, Hossa, where they did well in camp, but got sent back. They got a little taste of the league and that just whetted their appetite for more. It would surprise me if Zibanejad is the kind of guy who would sulk about getting sent back to Sweden. I think he would go there have a great season and come back better next year.

by DW19 on Oct 4, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he'd sulk

I’m just saying I don’t think he’s ready. I’m sure it will whet his appetite, I just don’t want to see the team burn a year of his contract this season because I don’t think he’s ready for it. If he goes back after a couple of games, fine – but I think it’s done specifically to whet his appetite and show him that he’s a part of the team’s future, not because he legitimately for sure earned it in the preseason.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he 100% earned himself a spot

he has played outstanding hockey during the preseason. the only question is whether or not he can keep up this intensity and pace.. if he can he’s gonna kill it. paul mclean thinks so too. between the rookie tournament, preseason, camp and scrimages, this kid has shown nothing but nhl-ready. speculating at this point is fairly useless, however, as he must still perform in his 9 game tryout.. so yeah and as for the contract situation i would be happy to face hte problem of resigning him to a longer term deal while he’s still on the upswing rather than when he’s peaked.. if signing him one year earlier means we get him at a slight discount for the following few years when his production is peaking, dooo it!

by Caden on Oct 4, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

He has earned it he has played better than Regin and Da Costa give him the 9 games I really think this should be about what the team needs now. He seems to be the best fit for that slot behind Spezza. He has gained a lot of weight too and is much bigger than most of the other top 10 picks. I am really hoping these 9 games go well.

by Beanster on Oct 4, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing but NHL ready? Seriously?

Aren’t his faceoff stats still horrible? He’s got a decent shot at times but a lot of the time he’s invisible and just can’t compete with NHL players. Maybe he was way better in camp and in scrimmages, but that preseason was certainly not “nothing but NHL ready”. Questionable at best.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is better than what we have

I think the point is that likely on other teams he wouldnt be ready but with our gaping hole at number 2 center he has the chance to step in he has not backed down nearly as much as one would expect his 2 way game is far better than most 18-20 year olds…I say give him every shot he has earned it

by Beanster on Oct 4, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously think Da Costa out-preformed Zibanejad in the preseason

Or at least is equal to him. And that’s not counting Regin’s NHL experience despite his mediocre pre-season. Zibanejad is not hands down the best option. We don’t have a gaping hole at second line centre.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

faceoff stats are NOT the top priority

he’s not going to NOT make the team. i have no stats to back this up but rookies almost NEVER best 50% in the circle. crosby? nope. invisible? how many games did you go to? his positioning on the ice was impeccable all the time. he was invisible, perhaps, if you’re considering making highlight reel plays shift after shift… but in terms of doing his job — he did his job and he did it quite well. i wouldn’t be surprised if at some point he was shifted to the wing instead of centre. oh well. this is a moot argument as he will be starting hte season in ottawa and the first 9 games is what really matters. clearly sens brass think he’s ready enough to give him every opportunity over the first 9 to have him win the spot.

by Caden on Oct 5, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Calm down

There’s no need to get all snarky asking me how many games I went to. Last time I checked I was allowed to have an opinion even if I didn’t got to a preseason game.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 5, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's true

But I think the point was more that he didn’t look totally ready in the preseason.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that he probably isn’t NHL ready. Whether he beat out Da Costa and Regin is my bigger concern. They certainly didn’t prove they were a league ahead of him. I also don’t think Zibanejad is the type of player to sulk. But if you’re going to send a player back, I would much rather send him back with a reason to push himself that much harder.
 
I think he should be sent back to Sweden, but only after he sees how much harder he’ll need to work (not that he hasn’t been giving it his all). This helps avoid 2 pitfalls. 1 – He gets frustrated waiting for the show 2 – He gets comfortable in the SEL being good but not dominant

by BD Rebuilders on Oct 5, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

But I’m sick to death of this argument so let’s just agree to disagree

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 5, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

See my note above and htis link http://www.the6thsens.com/2011-articles/september/leagues-in-translation-zibanejad-edition33794.html It seems to argue that the benefit to us is relatively minor compared to what it might do to him.

by Be_rad on Oct 4, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it's a huge mistake

But I agree that there’s no rush. We have to remember that he’s essentially still on a nine-game tryout. We’re not locked into keeping him just yet.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he'll be here long

And I think that considerations other than pure merit factored into the decision. I don’t know about a three year project, but I don’t think he’s ready now and I keep getting the impression that, for whatever reason, management is intent on keeping him around and grooming him or something.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

sooooo.....

anyone think we should pick up Avery on waivers? muahahaha…. I kid, of course…

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 4, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Avery AND Konopka?

THAT CAN ONLY GO WELL! Better yet, let’s get Ruutu back!

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having Avery here would be intrigueing

It will make for a very entertaining season and deflect attention/pressure from our rookies. The guy’s actually intellectually interesting. Can you imagine him antagonizing and then Konopka jumping in to defend him?

by whatsinaname on Oct 4, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad option

For a guy who has really has top 6 minutes he has put up 30 points 3 times. That’s more than we can say for Neiler.

by ojc on Oct 4, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The plane crash in russia was very sad

and i appreciate the players trying to commemorate the memories of those who died….but isnt there something better that money could be raised for than this group of families who were likely pretty well off?

by alfie4PM on Oct 4, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know about that. The star players maybe, but the rookies and second tier guys weren’t probably making that much. Certainly not millions over years. And if the wives weren’t working and have kids, they are probably in big trouble, at least in the immediate future with no income.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, i dont know…but i assume most players had life insurance.

by alfie4PM on Oct 4, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

How common is life insurance in the former Soviet bloc?

The international players, sure, but they also aren’t the rookies.

by B_T on Oct 4, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

Frankly i dont know enough about their financial situations to say for certain, it was just some pondering in my head.

by alfie4PM on Oct 4, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can have a video chat with Brennan and Baines today!

4 p.m. on OttawaSun.com!

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

The darker side of things...

Am I the only one who wants to see Ottawa finish last and get that first round pick and get some great rookies? Theres a part of me that just thinks most of the guys on the team are just fillers for now and our real team is 4 years down the road. Sure it would be exciting for these guys here to do well but at what cost? Play well enough that we dont make the playoffs and dont get great draft picks? We’re not the leafs. And I really wouldnt mind Mika going to SEL for a season. Cowen is ready, Rundblad and Mika are sketchy and watch out for Mark Stone, even under Clouston hes doing great.

by Tyler.mv on Oct 4, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

No, that was the Yakupov joke in the first sentence of the article.

I don’t think we have a team of fillers like you’re suggesting, but that has more to do with me thinking that guys like Butler and Greening and Cowen will probably be here more than a couple of years. But I seriously doubt that this team will have us on the bubble.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you!

I really want to get the first round pick this year, or at least top 3 and then the year after we could push. But hey, that’s just me!

I got a signed Chris Phillips jersey! (Also signed by Nick Foligno)

...Oh, wait.

by Gabriel17 on Oct 4, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't WANT to finish last

I have too much pride for that, and I’m just a fan. Plus, we just got some great rookies. But if we wind up last and get the chance to draft Yakupov, I won’t complain. I’m not expecting the team to be a playoff one; I just want them to compete every night.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just hoping I have a team to cheer for until, you know, February or so.

If they give me that, I’ll be happy. If we’re basically out of it after 2-3 months and I’m stuck cheering for the Yakupov Cup in January, I’m going to be disappointed.

by dzuunmod on Oct 4, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^ Agreed

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

A coach quoted anonymously by Elliotte Friedman in his 30 Thoughts today thinks the Sens will run out of steam by March. So, there’s hope!

by dzuunmod on Oct 4, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The choice is simple

be dead last to get Nail or make the playoff. Can you imagine cheering every time we lose a game?

by whatsinaname on Oct 4, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I can't

I couldn’t last year and I can’t this year.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a third choice?

Like, find joy in the growth of our young guys and when Kuba gets traded? I don’t want to lose and won’t cheer for it, but I won’t be upset if it happens.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh

I somehow think that there’s less of a connection between fans cheering for a loss and the team’s success than you’re assuming there is.

Not cheering for a loss doesn’t mean there won’t be a bunch of losses to not cheer for.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold on a second

Do you mean to tell me I can’t will the team to victory with my mind? That’s been the foundation of my fandom since 1997.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

That’s worse news than it might be his last season and that he’s leaving the door open to possibly chasing a cup.

by B_T on Oct 4, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, my bad then. I didn’t see the video but some guy said Alfie said that.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

NEVER HAPPENED.

PS I might be being sarcastic, but apparently if I am you missed it.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, ha. Well I guess I’ll see it when I get home.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The video is awesome.

I’m going to edit it into the Nuggets, because everyone should see it. Filatov is hilarious.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah, that's awesome

I did edit the resolution though as it was getting cut off on main page.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also Filatov

Haha, “Can you sing it to me?”
“Sing me the words?”

So awesome.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pranks and Russians have bad consequences

Proof

Oh look another Filatov/Kovalev comparison!

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone should have asked Anton.

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was excellent

“Sing me the words?” – i laughed my ass off.

Then Alfie said he liked NIckleback and i died a little inside…

Btw, that remix of Seven Nation Army is totally lame. I’m betting the guys who picked that had no idea how lame it sounds.

by west-sider on Oct 4, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear God

That remix of Seven Nation Army was garbage…as was the remix of Beautiful Day.

Nickelback?? BRITNEY SPEARS?? What in the blue hell is going on here? Who the @#$% chooses these goddamn songs?

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

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by Bloggy on Oct 4, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

My vote goes to Danko Jones

Something by them, anyway… they’re pretty awesome. And Canadian.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 5, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball style

Different goal song for every player! That way DaCosta can have his friekin Britney Spears. Luckily we wouldn’t hear his song very much though. We’d be hearing some Swedish House Mafia and Nickelback though with Spezza and Alfy potting a few this year!

by ek65 on Oct 4, 2011 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm disappointed they're moving away from the personalized goal songs, but I can understand why

Part of the new identity; I can get on board with that.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't care

Pissed.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Write a letter to Melnyk

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 4, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just might

But not Melnyk. Leeder. Wouldn’t be the first time.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh

Alfie allegedly (though I refuse to admit that it happened) picked Nickelback. Much more questionable and much less likely to get cut so deal with it.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to get trampled for saying this

But the hook on that Britney track is so catchy.

by LeTigre on Oct 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

NEVER HAPPENED

Also no one likes Nickelback. On behalf of family men in their late thirties who live in Kanata, YOU TAKE THAT BACK.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 4, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also no one likes Nickelback.

People keep saying that, but then they keep filling arenas.

by dzuunmod on Oct 5, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah, didn’t realize you were so invested into family men in their late thirties that live in Kanata, AlfieGirl.

by LeTigre on Oct 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Karlsson!

129 comments!?

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn;t mind the idea of 7 nation army

until I heard that remix. its awful. Black Keys or BUST!

by DaveYoung on Oct 4, 2011 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Got to say, I am disappointed more people didn't laugh at 'Chrissie'

I thought it was hilarious. :/

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by Adnan on Oct 4, 2011 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Fighting a ‘Chrissie’? How bad could it be?

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