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Senators get back to .500 with 4-3 win over Panthers

Apparently, Nick Foligno was as surprised as we were with his game winner.

The Senators finished the night with their first .500 record since beginning the season with no wins and no losses, and got yet another win with a dramatic fashion.

The Senators dominated the Panthers for the majority of the first twenty minutes, outshooting the Cats 15-7. Unfortunately, the Panthers got the only goal of the period on a long bomb from Jason Garrison.

The Senators evened things up 1-1 in the second period when Daniel Alfredsson sniped one top-shelf during a delayed penalty call, but the Panthers regained the lead only a few minutes later off of a very pretty Tomas Fleischmann goal. That didn't end the second period scoring, though, as Stephane Da Costa picked up his second goal of the year on yet another delayed penalty for the Florida Panthers.

The Senators continued to pour it on, outshooting the Panthers 15-6 in the third period. With just under 3 minutes left in the game, the Senators got their first lead on a great shot from Colin Greening. It was short lived, unfortunately, as the Panthers managed to tie the game up with their goalie pulled with just 48 seconds left in the game.

The game looked destined for overtime, but then it happened. Again. Just like the game against the Blue Jackets, the Senators found a way to get a last second goal as Nick Foligno managed to pounce on a rebound that was set up by a Daniel Alfredsson one-timer from a nifty pass by David Rundblad. How much time was left? About 3.5 seconds.

Star-divide

Sens Hero: Daniel Alfredsson
The Captain had a goal and an assist on the night, and the game winner was created in large part because of his excellent work in the attacking zone. He led by example yet again tonight, and was a huge part in the Senators' victory.

Sens Hero: Stephane Da Costa
Da Costa started the season as a pleasant surprise for the Senators, but in recent games had become invisible playing on the fourth line. With Zibanejad sent back to Sweden, Da Costa was given another opportunity with better linemates, and he did not let it go to waste. Da Costa had a goal and was a team high +3 on the night.

Honourable Mentions: Sergei Gonchar, David Rundblad
Gonchar and Rundblad each had an assist on the night, and Gonchar had 4 shots on the night. Gonchar, in particular, just continues to look better, and was particularly effective in using his body tonight.

Sens Zeroes: Jesse Winchester, Zenon Konopka
The fourth line of Jesse Winchester, Zenon Konopka, and Erik Condra just never seemed to mesh all night, and spent most of the game skating around frantically in their own zone. Condra avoids zero status because he showed some good flashes when out there with other linemates (including a nice assist on Da Costa's goal), but Konopka and Winnie both had off nights.

Sens Killer: Jacob Markstrom
The Swedish rookie netminder had a solid night in net for the Panthers, turning aside 34 shots and keeping the Panthers in the game. With his size (6'6"!) and athletic ability, you can tell that he's doing a good job emulating his idol Robin Lehner.

Random Stats:

  • Chris Phillips led all players in hits with 5.
  • Erik Karlsson led all Senators in time on ice with 24:38. Second was Milan Michalek with 20:03.
  • Jared Cowen led in shorthanded time on ice with 4:47 of penalty kill time.
  • Cowen is the only Senators player to suit up for more than four games and have no points to show for it. Even Nikita Filatov had an assist in his two games.
  • Zack Smith won only 2 of 11 faceoffs, giving him an ugly 18% faceoff percentage.
  • The Senators outshot the Panthers 38-25 on the night.

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Anderson needs to be better...

…if the Sens want this dalliance with .500 to last.

The offensive production is going to end. And when it does, Ottawa will need competent goaltending.

by TheGuineaPig on Oct 27, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah Andy had some weak moments last night

But the rest of the team made up for it!

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can buy that

the hockey has been entertaining as hell to watch. Heart-Attack Kids could well become an appropriate nick-name.

by west-sider on Oct 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

that was one sweet

pass from Rumball at the end. Jalapeño does that man have hands/vision/hands.
And all you ZappaCosta doubters…all he needed was to be released from the plug-line.

brilliant entertainment…even on a crap-ass stream (thanks though Chili!)

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by MadCash on Oct 27, 2011 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Aw, come on now

One good game doesn’t mean Da Costa has solved all his problems, just like it doesn’t mean Filatov will score a hat trick every game.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

shush you doubter you!

he’s on a roll! Da Costa is now obviously the solution to our no.2 center woes. Critics be silenced and damned!

Seriously though, given the thinking was he hadnt done much on a plug line, he gets promoted and goes back to what we thought we had in the pre-season. it’s at least a hint at confirming he’s maybe what we thought he might be. (And all the qualification in this paragraph is intended.)

by west-sider on Oct 28, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a really positive sign, to be sure

Consistency is the question now.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silly me, I went out after the 2nd and missed the 3rd!!

This was what we were hoping this season would be like: Lose but play hard and never give up. Hopefully the new team spirit will convince Alfie to come back for another season. He was on fire tonight.

by whatsinaname on Oct 27, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

i totally see what mclean is saying about condra

condra looked fantastic tonight on the pk and in defensive zone coverage. i didn’t think he had the quick first step that he does. the da costa goal was a masterpiece of effort by condra — he tipped the cross ice pass in the defensive zone, chased it, poked it to michalek, continued to burst forth with speed, then made a beautiful cross up pass to da costa. bravo! even on his other shifts i noticed his forecheck was excellent and he put a lot of pressure on the defensemen in our own zone. he really does have the potential to be an elite pk and defensive player in this league. and i doubted him in the early going.. tsk tsk.

by Caden on Oct 27, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Condra is great with Neil and Smith

I love that third line of Condra, Smith and Neil! Didnt see it much tonight but they seem to play pretty well together. I hope that Line sticks. And Foligno seems to be playing really well the last two games. Glad he got a goal for it tonight. This is what I see Lines as so far

Micky Spezza Greening
Foligno DaCosta Alfredsson
Condra Smith Neil
Winchester Konopka Doggy

I dont know what were doing with Butler, Regin, Filatov Doggy but one thing is for sure… I just plain dont like Winchester. Nothing personal but I dont see the skill there at all. Coaching and GM are going to hae a lot of fun moving things around :) Glad im not them.

by Tyler.mv on Oct 28, 2011 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

It was Neil, Smith and Daugavins tonight

Condra was with Konopka and Winchester. That line didn’t do too much though, as Darren noted.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Tyler.mv is suggesting line changes to put Condra alongside Zmith and Neil.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, oops!

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Da Costa made me eat my words

I’m going to talk shit on a different Senator prior to each game if this becomes a trend

by LeTigre on Oct 28, 2011 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good idea

But there’s a considerable body of empirical evidence that shit-talking doesn’t make Kuba better. If it did, he’d be Bobby Orr.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Computer is crazy

It posted the subject line twice and lost my clever message about how if shit talking made Senators good, then Kuba would be Bobby Orr by now.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

The site's wonky

It did that to me a couple of times yesterday. Your comment actually posted fine, it just shows up weird for you.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Good to know, though I’m sad to find out that I ruined my own joke for no reason.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it happened to a few of my comments just now.

Someone needs to tell SB Nation their site’s having issues!

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

They know

They’re having issues because they’re performing back end work, as I understand it.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

It also keeps signing me out which is annoying

But the connect via fb function is often wonky and it could easily be fb’s fault.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unreal

While we might be in a rebuild, if we get a season with the excitement level of these games, we might be referring to these as the glory years. Such entertaining games.

by Druke on Oct 28, 2011 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Michalek was a beast tonight

I really hope he can keep up pace.

 Also I like the fact that greenIng chose to shoot instead of passing it to spezza. This young team needs some confidence and I think the last couple games have helped that along. And it’s good to see DaCosta back to his old self.

by Chuck Wood on Oct 28, 2011 1:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Greening has had a few good games

On both ends of the ice. I was really impressed with his backcheck to take out Skinner in the Carolina game.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I echo Adnan

I am just in love. So many positive things to say, but fact is, even though we’ve played some lesser opponents lately, the team has played very well. Gonchar was unreal again tonight. Cowen was great on the pk, and even though he has no points, he rang one off the bar late. Greening is getting more confident, and that line is just amazing. Really glad to see the effect Alfie has on that line with Da Costa and Foligno, that line was really really good tonight, and once teams figure out that Jason Spezza’s line is for real, having that second line contribute will be huge.

also, thought the powerplay looked great tonight on the chance in the first (I think it was the first). hats off to Dave Cameron for that.

by DaveYoung on Oct 28, 2011 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

has anyone sent murray the 'fail for nail' memo yet?

i’m not sure what mediocrity does for the rebuild. finishing near .500, and missing the playoffs, is all well and good but it doesn’t land a good draft place, nor get any playoff experience.

</my 2c>

by AussieSensFan on Oct 28, 2011 5:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Resctocking in Aisle 1

I don’t know if others will agree, but I think there is now enough prospect depth/talent in the pipeline that we don’t need to panic if we don’t finish bottom 5. It would be great to get another sure-fire, blue-chip future star, for sure, but I don’t think the rebuild fails if this year goes so-so.

Just my view.

by sensory_experience on Oct 28, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with Sensory_experience

As much as the odds improve when drafting higher, BM has drafted Karlsson (13th or 15th) & traded for Runblad (drafted @ 16th overall) for the Sens, & he drafted Corey Perry years ago with a high 20th overall pick. This year snagged Zibanejad, Noesen & Puempel with later picks in the first round- though we have yet to know how that turns out, they’re looking pretty good so far. I trust the scouting staff to come out with a good 1st round pick regardless of where it is. That being said, the biggest thing that is great to see is the effort & never say die attitude of this team. Sure it has its problems, but the fans just want to see effort. Its only 10 games in, there is plenty of time for this team to struggle yet, and they probably will. But if the team competes for a playoff spot, and then fails to make it, it will be a great learning experience for a very young team. It doesn’t matter where they finish, this year is all about development.

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Not only are there a lot of good, legit prospects in the system, but our drafting record in the mid-lower 1st round is pretty decent.

by sensory_experience on Oct 28, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

However, this is an important time for the Senators, and although we have optimism about the future now, we may be kicking ourselves 3-4 years down the line for not having another star on the team. If it makes the difference between cup and conferance finalist, that’s worth failing for. Good drafting or not, 15th overall will always be riskier than 4th.

I’m looking for a solid start to the season, a slip to bottom 5 near then end, and good skating time for the rookies. Some trade deadline moves will help diminish the talent, so it might help the slide from 18th to 25th while giving us another 1st rounder. Gonchar, Michalek, Kuba are all looking like legitimate 1st round trades if not better.

by BD Rebuilders on Oct 28, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deadline trade

I will be very surprised if Michalek gets dealt. He is still pretty young. Unlike Kuba and Gonchar, I think he is here for the rebuild. Especially because his injury history will probably limit how great a pick we would get for him.

by sensory_experience on Oct 28, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess that depends on the teams perspective on the rebuild. Michalek is young, but his knees already have a whole hell of a lot of mileage on them. If you could flip him as part of a package that gets another first or a good prospect I’d say do it. I really like him, but his knees make me leery.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even then, dicey.

I find it hard to imagine the team will leave themselves will only a single guaranteed top 6 talent (Spezza) after this year. (Alfie may retire, and no one else on the team besides Michalek has “definitely top two lines” pedigree yet.)

If you traded Michalek as part of a package to get a pick, you’d have to do another trade (of a prospect/pick) to get another top 6 winger anyway. And Michalek’s on a reasonable deal.

by sensory_experience on Oct 28, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, Michalek is not likely to go. But I’d put him as the 3rd most likely to be traded for a 1st round pick (maybe I’m overlooking someone). If he has a solid season, puts up 70 pts for the first time with Spezza’s help, he might bring in a lot more than he’s worth.
I guess overanalysing every possible trade is never a good idea. What I’m hoping for is a trade that makes the current team get a higher pick, and pick up another 1st round pick at the same time. Double benefit.

by BD Rebuilders on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caveat

I guess if someone proves themselves beyond a shadow of a doubt this year — in the NHL — that could change.

Filatov being the main candidate there, perhaps.

by sensory_experience on Oct 28, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Michalek have a non-post related knee-injury?

Because while there could be some long-term effect there, it may just have been a one off.

And it’s hard to replace a guy as all-round as Michalek.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is he’s had surgeries on both knees. I believe he has had maybe 4 surgeries on his knees already(correct me if I’m wrong), as I believe he had a couple before we even acquired him.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

If so, then I’m way more concerned.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four is the number in my memory

Two before we got him and two after.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four is the magic number

I don’t know what that mean, just that 4 is a magic number is a Wainwright lll song.

by whatsinaname on Oct 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

negative

3 total i think. one acl surgery on each (pretty major), one meniscus (minor), and a broken foot with us (bones heal). soooo yes the knees are always a worry, but he hasn’t reinjured either of his surgically repaired knees yet (knock on wood). i may be wrong but i’m pretty sure it was major acl surgery in his first year pro, then meniscus surgery during his time with SJ, then the major acl two summers ago & the broken foot somewhere in there with us as well.

by Caden on Oct 28, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

(let me clarify)

hasn’t reinjured the previously injured ligaments

by Caden on Oct 28, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

We have him for a while, and he’s looking like a solid part of this team going forward.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the draft is not the only way to add stars

Look at how Pittsburgh got James Neal, for instance.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't see getting a 1st round pick for any of those players

Based on the market for players last year, and the age/contracts of those players, 2nd rounders for Gonchar/Kuba at best. Michalek might get a 2nd & a prospect at best.

My point though is that I trust our scouting department to get a good player with the 1st pick regardless of where it is. For every Daigle (1st), Berg (3rd), Volchkov (4th) Fata (6th) Tkaczuk (6th) Stefan (1st) Brendel (4th) DiPietro (1st) Svitov (3rd) & Chistov (5th) there is a S Koivu (21st) Briere (24th) Gagne (22nd) Havlat (26th) Volchenkov (21st) Kronwall (29th) Ward (25th) Parise (17th) Getzlaf (19th) M Richards (24th) Kesler (23rd) & Perry (28th).

I don’t necessarily want to see a slide at the end of the year, regardless of whether they are able to unload some of the extras. If they do, and it is fun, exciting hockey to watch because the effort and system is there, but the talent isn’t, then that is ok. But I won’t get on board any ‘fail for nail’ campaign. Who’s to say Nail doesn’t become one of the ’can’t miss kids’ listed above.

The team is greater than the sum of its parts. One more star player doesn’t necessarily mean the difference between Stanley & tears.

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right about not cheering for losses

But the lists of draft busts and sleepers always bug me because these arguments ignore the fact that the analysis should be probability-based. Fact is, you’ve got a better chance of getting a good player the closer you pick to no. 1.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which I noted in my first comment

I’m just saying that I trust the scouting department of this team to get a good player regardless of where they pick & I don’t want the team to throw the season based on the chance of getting a better player higher in the draft.

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we want to be the Detroit of the East,

we have to stop looking to Edmonton, Florida, Islanders as examples..getting top 5 darts picks every year. When was the last time Detroit got top 5 draft? To hell with Nail and hello bottom 10 picks. Such bravado is a 4 game winning steak against weak opponents made.

by whatsinaname on Oct 28, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that

Campoli got us a second rounder last year, Gonchar could be worth a first if he keeps it up. If he’s putting up 45 points, that’s easily worth a late first rounder in my eyes. Look what Kaberle got. Gonchar’s older though I guess.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really hard to judge because of that extra year.

Depending on how the next few months go, that year’s either a big asset or a huge liability when we’re trying to trade him. If he was just gonna be a rental like Kuba, his value would fluctuate a lot less.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s true. Not many contenders have cap room I suppose.

Chicago, Boston, Tampa, Detroit all have $3M+ and they could probably fit Gonchar’s salary pro-rated at the deadline. I don’t know how many of them would want an offensive defenceman though.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baring injury, Tampa is the only one of that group that could use him I think.

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The issue with Gonchar being traded this Feb

is that whoever trades for him will have to contend with one more year of $5.5 mil on his contract and will be 38 y.o next season.

by whatsinaname on Oct 28, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my point exactly

If he’s playing really well, that extra year could be what nets us a bigger return than if he was just a rental. But if his play is inconsistent or consistently bad (or even consistently mediocre), that year could make him untradeable.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect something similar to one of the following:

Wideman & McCabe both went for a 3rd rounder & a prospect…

Maybe a 2nd round & a prospect if Gonchar continues his solid year. The cap hit is a big problem. Might have to take an expiring large contract back in return…

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would counter with...

The environment for the current young players. If they are losing all the time, will they develop as well as if they put together a few good wins and we pick 10th?

Sure Yakupov could be very useful down the road, but what about the confidence of Rundblad, Cowen, Da Costa?

Having said that, they could still finish dead last, still very early in the season. Only 4 points ahead of 15th. But, I think this team is too talented to be 30th. An injury to Spezza, Karlsson or Anderson could change that though.

All of our best players are playing great, with the exception of Anderson.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 9:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s true, Andy hasn’t been great, but he still makes some big stops for us. I like how the club is playing like a team and has some confidence. Sure Andy let in that tying goal, but the team bucked up and won that game for him regardless. He let in a couple softies in Carolina, but then was a beast in the shootout to clinch the game. I just think this is more of a team than any we’ve seen in a long time. Getting rid of bad guys like Mike Fisher and Chris Kelly must have helped a lot:)

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about the GA???

As good as Yakupov appears to be, personally I’d rather see he Sens stock up on the defensive side of things with dmen and all around forwards, rather than another small offensive forward. We have plenty of budding offence, and plenty of offence from the back end as well that is developing.

I say how about solidifying the goaltending and the defensive side of things? One prospect albeit a really good one, does not equal depth between the pipes.

And like Mark says, there are other ways besides the draft.

The prospects will sort themselves out and IMO we will end up with enough scoring in the next couple of years… but I’m not so sure about our ability to prevent goals. Our GA is pretty horrid. We need defensive partners for the developing 4th forward-type of dmen like Karlsson and Rundblad, and we need a REAL shutdown pair to protect a lead and shutdown the other team’s best players. I’d like Phillips / Volchenkov in their prime clones.

Not that I am against more offence… bring it on. But, I’m just saying that let’s take care of the GA and make Anderson’s job easier.

by Marvellous on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defence is getting better

9 goals allowed in last 4 games. I think as they get used to playing with the same partners, our defence will get better. It’s a young one though, so there will be some nights where they get lit up.

I am not against drafting a defenceman though. I was very happy with how many forwards we took in this year’s draft, now we should just take whatever is the best player.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed with goaltending

Besides Lehner, there is no depth @ that position in the system. That will have to be addressed. I also wouldn’t mind another defenseman to round out the future top 4 of Karlsson, Runblad & Cowen. 5 – 6 d-men can be picked up cheaply through trade and free agency. Plus we’ve got Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch & Lee for the 5 – 6 slots.

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you raise a good point. Either Spezza or Anderson go down with an injury

And we’re potentially SOL. Although people said the same about Pittsburgh and they did alright. And I would argue that Crosby/Malkin do way more for that team.

by The Tif on Oct 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

We need to get over this Fail for Nail thing you guys...

Columbus is getting that guy. It is going to be too hard to suck as more than Columbus will this year.

How is anyone supposed to top Sterling Snakehouse?

by worsteverything on Oct 28, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great job me!

This is my first time typing.
Fo-giv-e-ness, please

How is anyone supposed to top Sterling Snakehouse?

by worsteverything on Oct 28, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is not your first time!

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus will improve when Carter gets healthy.

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus will improve when Carter is healthy.

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus will improve when Carter are healthy.

by The Tif on Oct 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm hearing as well.

Shawn McEachern: The best Senator to ever wear 15.

by Speedy_McEachern on Oct 28, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys having trouble with double posts, too?

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

Common sense is the most evenly distributed quality in all the world.
Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's so ironic.

IT’S LIKE RAYAYAYAYAYAAAAIIIIIIIINNNNNN ON YOUR WEDDIN’ DAY!

by The Tif on Oct 28, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

She and I went to the same high school, you know. And we even had the same English teacher.

Until it became so trendy to be a hipster, I had no idea what irony really was. Something about a lot of spoons, right? It’s like when you have a large number of spoons?

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just delete mine

FOR I HAVE ADMIN POWERS BEYOND THE MORTAL MAN

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't bet on Columbus

There’s still plenty of time for Edmonton to tank.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Them again?

Those guys and their top draft picks….it’s beginning to be feel like it’s “Sample Saturday” at Costco and Edmonton is the guys pretending to look at things in the freezers so that they can keep getting slices of the next Delissio pizza to come out of the toaster oven.

I mean come on, you’ve had 3 slices already Edmonton, go hit the sausage-roll table or something and leave some pizza for the rest of us!

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, good point

Bryan Murray should have re-hired one of the shitty coaches from the past so that this team could lose more games. And he should tell his players that they need to start playing poorly.

What exactly do you expect him to do?

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 28, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now now

Last time they cracked jokes like this, the NHL started investigating them. Don’t want to be accused of actually tanking the season.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't look now...

but the Sens are in 8th place.

It won’t last, but boy, does it look good on them.

by JonathanA on Oct 28, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

who says it won’t last…

by spezzasbrother on Oct 28, 2011 9:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

7 of 8 teams on Nov 1st last year

in playoff position made it to the dance in May.

by whatsinaname on Oct 28, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

true true, these next 3 games until Nov. 1st, 2 against division rivals, could literally spell Boom or doom for the “heart attack kids” if you want to gauge the season by those stats.

by spezzasbrother on Oct 28, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Closet Sens fan

I just watched the recap and noticed this Habs fan losing his shit over DaCosta.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw that too!

I was like, “WHY ARE YOU CHEERING DOUCHBAG?!”

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, wait

It’s probably because Da Costa is French, huh. But… he’s French French, not French Canadian.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't want to be a rotten apple...

but, the Sens would be a more dangerous team if… wait for it…Spezza would back check alittle harder.I seen at least one play were I think, mind you tho, I ain’t no expert judge of talent… were I think if he would have used his long legs to skate harder, he just MIGHT have saved a goal….mind you, that’s why my day job doesn’t involve coaching.

by spezzasbrother on Oct 28, 2011 9:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Rec'd for amazingness

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Fredo

You could also change your name to Tobias Funkë.

Wife of Gob: I’m in love with your brother-in-law.
Gob: You’re in love with your own brother, the one in the army.
Wife of Gob: No, your sister’s husband.
Gob: Michael? Michael!
Wife of Gob: No, that’s your sister’s brother.
Gob: No, I’m my sister’s brother. You’re in love with me. Me.
Wife of Gob: I’m in love with Tobias.
Gob: My brother-in-law?
Wife of Gob: I know it can never be. So I’m leaving and enlisting in the army.
Gob: To be with your brother.
Wife of Gob: No.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 28, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

so… anyone know how those 2 delayed-penalty goals effect our PP percentage? the stats from last night say we were 0/2, but shouldn’t they count that as either 0/0 (because we never actually got a chance on the power play) or 2/2 (because essentially we extended our powerplay and it worked)?

We fell to second in the PP last night, and clearly I’m upset :)

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 28, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

They don't count towards our power play stats

We had a man advantage because the goalie was pulled, not because Florida was short a skater.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The two power plays in the stats were different than the two delayed penalties where we scored

At best, we can say the team was 2/4 last night.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha, I wasn’t able to see the game, so that explains everything, thanks!

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 28, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

THE GLORIOUS UNPROVENS

Had a heck of a game tonight. Condra and Greening were both instrumental in the win.

Greening especially. He’s unlike any player the Senators have ever had.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I know!

He didn’t really stand out for me last season, but now he’s looking like a long-term piece of the puzzle here. At least I hope so.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! I remember that guy from the off-season.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will admit, I was “meh” on both and didn’t have a preference either way.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Despite the good play from both recently

That does kinda feel like debating whether you like the bologna with the pieces of olive or the bologna with the pieces of macaroni.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate olives. HATE THEM.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aside: do people actually flag people when they say that?

I do … but if that just adds work to the mods, I’ll stop doing it …

by The Tif on Oct 28, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I used to

But please don’t unless you mean it. Mark and Peter actually check every comment that is flagged.

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this one was deserved though

How can you have such good taste in hockey teams and such poor taste in soccer teams and brined mediterranean tree fruit?

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha also, other SB Nation sites also look at how many times you have been flagged to determine if you are a trouble maker. ;)

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really depends on the olive.

Jar olives are horrible.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rule I go by is "Say 'flagged' if you're joking, flag and say nothing if you're serious"

That’s what I’d advise everyone else to do. If you really feel a comment is inappropriate for any reason, just flag it and one of use will look at it.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit

i was going to flag this as a bad joke, but you have to write an explanation.. and i barely know you.. so writing a personal joke as an explanation would be awkward

by Caden on Oct 28, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I occasionally do when I flag actual trolls. But I usually just say I’m doing it.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, black or green?

This is important

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woodstock: What’s the password?
Ace Ventura: New England clam chowder.
Woodstock: Is that the red or the white?
Ace Ventura: Ah, I can never remember that. White.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like olives of any kind. :/

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

More important question:

Puny jar olive or big, real olive?

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assumed both were 3-4 liners

Both might still be, but Greening is definitely looking good on that top line. And Condra is proving a more than capable replacement for Bad Guy Chris Kelly.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Greening is the type of top-line guy who can only play top-line minutes with the right linemates. He doesn’t have the skill of a top line guy, but he can contribute in other ways to make his linemates better.

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by DarrenM on Oct 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

He’s not skilled enough to be a top line guy, but he can compliment players well. He can bang home a lot of garbage goals, and if that’s what the line needs, he’s your guy.

by The Tif on Oct 28, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how I see him

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 28, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dono

he won like… every single competition at the sens super skills… if he can work on his hands a bit, develop a quick release wrist shot, and fully commit to using his size (which he has been thus far this year), then i would say he’s primed to be a legit first liner… i would say mclean has a big deal to do with that!

by Caden on Oct 28, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

He’ll never be anywhere near what Kesler is. I can’t think of a comparable off the top of my head.

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by DarrenM on Oct 28, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best case scenario: maybe a Milan Lucic type of producer, but less of an A-hole.

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Close to Ovechkin in size, style and points? :P

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about maybe Scott Hartnell? Almost identical size and weight.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

And since he’s a Newfie I bet he’d be able to grow a fierce beard like Hartnell too.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he’ll have an invisi-beard is my guess. Or it’ll be really patchy.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I can easily picture him with a nice, robust beard that makes his head look even more disproportionately small.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha.

When I try to picture him with a beard I just get an image of him with a drawn-on burnt cork beard, like a kid in a pirate costume.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep thinking of this:

And before anyone asks, no I have no idea why.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

A pencil thin french mustache would be pretty good too

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This definitely needs to be a draft consideration. We can’t be drafting players that can’t grow a fierce playoff beard. I think Sidney Crosby was lucky to be drafted given his poor beard growing capabilities.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's true. You look at the Bruins - they all had beards.

We lost to Anaheim due to their superior beardliness.

We need to draft more kids who look like Cowen. He already has that lost old man look, I’m sure he can grow a mean hobo-beard.

by The Tif on Oct 28, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was pretty beardly in the Calder Cup run.

Space for rent.

by awr.campbell on Oct 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking a Mark Recchi type

maybe Dustin Penner with more ‘compete’

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not really good at comparables

Brenden Morrow, Ryan Malone, and Dustin Brown seem like absolute best-case scenarios.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take any one of the 3

Especially Brown & Morrow @ 25 years old!

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by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Power Forward

Greening does what Alfy used to do… defensive strength with some offence, and every once in a while he creams someone.

Hopefully Z’jad will come back from Sweden a great defensive player who can score big time as well and hits people hard while he is at it… Can you tell I love Power Forwards???

by Marvellous on Oct 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That picture of Furby's face says it all.

That was an excellent game last night. How excellent? I can barely talk today because of all the cheering. That’s really all I can say about it!

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Nick effing Foligno

FURBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

...Lenny the shark

I got a signed Chris Phillips jersey! (Also signed by Nick Foligno)

...Oh, wait.

by Gabriel17 on Oct 28, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

DaCosta

I have been skeptical about him, but he played well last night. If he keeps this kind of play going, I will be happy to eat my words.

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s all about being given the opportunity. The Sens wanted to see what ZBad could do and give him every opportunity to succeed, as you know the team wanted him to stay in North America this year. To give him that opportunity it unfortunately meant DaCosta had to play on the 4th line. Now with that out of the way we can hopefully see him shine and earn that 2nd line spot.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Performing

With the amount of prospects we have, it’s also about performing when you are given the opportunity. Hopefully Filatov is learning about that in Bingo, and DaCosta and Butler will do that now.

by Marvellous on Oct 28, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Very well said

Rec’d

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

OTT FTW

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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the Fail for Nail thing

I think 2 points need to be made about this:

1. While I’m not one of those pedants who gets upset about fans referring to the team as “we”, there is a massive distinction between the fans hoping for a high draft pick and the team “throwing games”. The team deliberately tanking is WAY different thing than the team not winning games.

2. In the end, I think the whole idea of cheering for the “Fail for Nail” thing is hoping that the team plays well and the young players develop, but that at the end of the season, when you add up all the points, the team has a high draft pick. Was it after the Washington game that people were pointing out that the ideal situation for the Sens this year had just played out: to have a great exciting game but ultimately lose a heartbreaker?

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psychology fact

Fans are more likely to say “we” when the team is doing well because they want to be involved, but when the team does poorly they’re more likely to say “them” to distance themselves from failure.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

FDR's ole' line:

Success has many fathers (we would say parents today), failure is an orphan.

by JonathanA on Oct 28, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I very much feel the same way as you do with regards to the team’s fortunes, I do understand the other side too. You’ll notice that the teams who have had success the last few years, namely Pittsburgh, Washington and Chicago are teams that scraped rock bottom, then got premium talent through the draft from those rough years and rose to the top of the league.

As much as I love seeing the team be competitive and win, there’s another side of me that understands that those premium players are really what makes a Stanley Cup contender in the current climate of the NHL. While there isn’t one surefire way to build a winner, there does seem to be some similarities between how some of the more successful clubs and how they got there.

I will note though, Ottawa does have a few premium picks already. I’m not sure if Zbad will prove to be a top pick or a reach, as he did seemingly come out of nowhere. Then we have Cowen, who was supposed to be a top 5 pick before he hurt his knee. So he could prove to be a premium piece still. I doubt either is going to be Crosby or Chara, but they could have a high ceiling.

by modsuperstar on Oct 28, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

See:

Bruins, Boston
Red Wings, Detroit
Hurricanes, Colorado
Lightning, Tampa Bay
Devils, New Jersey

Teams that did not ‘scrape rock bottom’ to build a contender through the draft.

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 28, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

See:

Maple Leaves, Toronto
Panthers, Florida
Blue Jackets, Columbus
Wild, Minnesota
Flames, Calgary

Teams that provide a counterpoint to your position.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not a counterpoint

It’s another supportive point, in that those teams represent ones that scraped the bottom and yet still failed to assemble the necessary talent to seriously compete.

Except Calgary and Minnesota. I’m not sure what they’re doing in there.

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lightning acquired Lecavalier and Stamkos after horrible seasons. Colorado built up their Stanley Cup winning teams through some horrible seasons in Quebec and the flukey acquisition of Patrick Roy.

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in agreement here.

My problem with teams who scrape the bottom is that they generally get a short term fix. At the end of the day, you need a great GM to keep your team on the top. If you have a great GM, then you don’t need a top ten pick.

by Pmoron on Oct 28, 2011 7:22 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Finish games in regulation

I am going to make a rather nerdy point here: IF the Senators are not going to make the playoffs this year(which I still think they won’t) THEN I would like to see them finish as many of their games as possible in regulation time.

This is a season where I think it will do the team no good to pile up a bunch of overtime losses and shootout losses. Those “empty points” do nothing for the team’s morale whatsoever(IMHO) while floating them up the conference standings from say 14th to 10th (which gets them a worse draft pick, but not a playoff berth).

To paraphrase the wise Yoda: “Win or lose, there is no tie.”

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not particularly nerdy

But it is particularly confusing to cheer for.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confusing, no doubt about that.

Basically, my first choice is for the Sens to win. My second choice is for them to lose in regulation. And my least preferred outcome is a Sens loss in either overtime or the shootout (empty points, for the purposes of this season).

by DW19 on Oct 28, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

…Lose heartbreakingly in regulation with good performances from the young players, who are JUST a season’s experience short of being able to pull it off. And maybe by a flukey goal from the other team that no one could have done anything about.

Oh, and maybe there were some big hits and highlight reel plays.

Ya that would do.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah this

And then the occasional win against garbage teams.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean you'd like to see them lose in regulation

If it’s an OT or SO win, the points aren’t empty.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, if the Sens win it doesn’t matter whether they do it in regulation, OT or the shootout.

by DW19 on Oct 29, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my

Good message, but a paragraph break or two would be appreciated next time. I don’t mean that in a mean way that is just one huge block of text.

Although I do think that the “fail for Nail” talk on here is mostly tongue in cheek.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 28, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really care about us getting Nail

I just really hope that Montreal doesn’t draft him :)

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...Oh, wait.

by Gabriel17 on Oct 28, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent points

More paragraphs would make for easier digestion though!

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

You are doing it on purpose now! :P

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by Adnan on Oct 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was hoping no one would notice

I’m starting to feel like Jason Biggs in the famous Elizabeth Shannon scene in American Pie.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 28, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

note to self:

 don’t be facetious in the comment thread

by AussieSensFan on Oct 28, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh...

Well, you can be facetious, just make it more obvious next time!

by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 3, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

Break up the ideas into paragraphs. I drove my English teachers crazy too.

My point was just that I don’t understand or agree with the idea of ‘lose now so we can potentially win in 2 or 3 years’. I feel like now is one of the most exciting times to watch the Senators play, because we know they are underdogs and it is going to take an extreme effort and – dare I say it – team play to get goals and wins. Right now that is exactly what we are getting from a team that was predicted to finish dead last in the East.

I’m happy with what I have seen so far. So happy that I brag to people about Ottawa winning these games in heart-stopping fashion. Speaking of – I feel like I saw something about the heart-attack kids on a thread here only to see the Senators called the cardiac kids on my facebook. People are definitely ripping off your nicknames, and not only ripping them off, they’re giving them the Zellers brand names. Ottawa media sometimes shames me.

But I still wish I lived there so I could watch games consistently.

by Hawdon00 on Oct 29, 2011 3:45 AM EDT reply actions  

THEY TOTALLY DID!

We called them the Heart Attack Kids here, and the media is calling them the Cardiac Kids! Same as how we named him Paulrus, and they copied that too!!

by The Tif on Oct 29, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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