Senators return Mika Zibanejad to Djurgårdens IF
by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT
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The most debated issue of this early Ottawa Senators season is no longer up for debate: The Senators have returned rookie Mika Zibanejad to Djurgårdens IF of the Swedish Elite League for the 2011-12 season.
In his nine-game stint with the Senators, Zibanejad had one assist, two penalty minutes, and was -3 while playing between 11 and 15 minutes per night. He definitely appeared physically capable of playing in the NHL, but aspects of his game will need to be refined over the course of the season, particularly his puckhandling, puck control, and shooting skills.
Zibanejad had just 9P (5G, 4A) with Djurgårdens last season, but, heck, he was only 17 for much of the year. One would assume Zibanejad will become one of the go-to players for 2011-12. He's a big kid and will be one of few guys on the roster with NHL experience, and he can skate very well. Whether he will have the kind of breakout season David Rundblad has last year with Skelleftea remains to be seen, but Zibanejad certainly has the tools to be a dominant player in the Elitserien. We can also expect to see him suit up in a leadership role with Sweden's U-20 squad at the World Junior Hockey Championships this upcoming January.
Whatever happens this season, Zibanejad has shown that he's very close to being a good to very good NHL player. Another year developing in Sweden should help him get there.
UPDATE: It should also be mentioned that this move also results in Zibanejad's contract "sliding" over to next year. In effect, his entry-level contract with the Senators still carries another three seasons after this year. It may not have been a chief factor in the decision to send him back, but it was likely one of them.
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I think most agree
Apparently, Coach M was the hardest to convince.
Who can blame him?
Why wouldn’t he want to be the molding hand on a player that will have a major impact on the future of the organization?
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I certainly don't blame him
I’m almost inclined to agree with him. But there will be time for moulding next year too.
It is in the Queen's English
Filthy colonials.
by B_T on Oct 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
We will avenge 1812!
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by Mark Parisi on Oct 26, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whoever rec'd this is dead
Both of you
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I just rec'd it
Thanks for the reminder!
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by AlfieGirl on Oct 26, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I pretty much rec’d it just for you saying so.
I am always up for a little America-bashing. ;)
Apparently there will be 1812 parades next year!
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Oh goodness. I hope they don't burn York again in response.
by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 26, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You Ottawa people would probably like that. :(
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Them Ottawa people probably would.
But I live on York…
by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 26, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Any of you GTA people work in the video game industry
now or before? I knew a guy there who used to have his office desk vandalized for having Sens toys and flags around it. I used to work in T.O but most of the people in the office came from Montreal, so lots of Habs (Boooring) and Leafs (vomit, vomit) cooler talks and not enough adult conversation (i.e Sens talk).
by whatsinaname on Oct 26, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
But I live right beside the ACC, so I deal with a lot of Leafs fans. The buzz around there when they were making their “playoff run” last year was appalling.
And Habs fans are a goddamned rash. They’ve spread around everywhere, and they’re always showing up in bright red where they should be. Also, just when you think they’re gone, the Habs win a playoff series and suddenly there they are again.
And why do they wear their jerseys to events that have nothing to do with the Habs? I’m sorry, but I’m not sure the Baltimore Orioles fans are that offended by your Canadiens jersey. It’s like Rough Riders fans that show up with their flags in Toronto acting like they’re showing all us “Argos fans”. I didn’t even know there was a CFL!
Rant over.
by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 26, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I just love trolling Canada
I can’t help it.
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Like, hiding under bridges and eating our goats?
by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 26, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
1812 parades are so stupid
It’s not a war worth celebrating. (More philosophically, is there such a thing as a war worth celebrating?)
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not celebrating, but certainly commemorating
Or are you saying we should do away with Remembrance Day?
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Was going to say the same thing
Commemorating vs celebrating. Reservation I have is the $100 million budgeted for the event.
by whatsinaname on Oct 27, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Not at all
Remembrance Day isn’t celebrating, or at least not in my experience. A somber ceremony at the War Memorial with Taps playing and veterans marching isn’t a celebration.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that they're planning anything more celebratory for 1812.
I think it’s mainly to teach people about it since a lot of Canadians don’t know/care and to mark the occasion.
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Agreed.
He’s going to be a heck of a player, though.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
He’s big enough not to get physically dominated. He should be learning here, not there
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Physicality isn't the start and end of it
He needs to work on his skills with the puck: Using his body to protect it, using his speed without losing it, improving the speed and accuracy of his shot. Those are things he’ll learn better in the SEL, where he’ll likely get more ice time and more offensive opportunities than in Ottawa.
The biggest developmental advantage the NHL has over the SEL is the physicality. By all accounts, that wasn’t an issue with Zibanejad; as you said, he could already handle it.
But what likely factors into this decision the most is the fact that by returning him to the SEL, Zibanejad’s contract now slides. So the Senators have him for three seasons after this one on his entry-level deal. This is a plus.
Moreover, another year of development in the SEL doesn’t preclude further development in the NHL. He’s only 18, and will certainly still have more to learn next year. He can learn that in Ottawa.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He will get more ice time in Sweden
but he will play less half the games. He hasn’t hurt this team since he’s been here (i’d say the opposite) so why not let him stay and learn, with his team, the sens? The only reason i can think of is the contract situation. It is nice to have the contract not kick in.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The ideal spot is the AHL, but that's not feasible
The SEL is a highly talented league. Remember that Rundblad just came from spending a developing year there and that the team didn’t have a problem with Slifverberg spending another year there.
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The only reason it's not feasible is the contract would kick in.
they could easily keep him here and have the contract kick in and then send him to bingo if he struggled…the same thing they did with Karlsson. If the SEL orginization is so great at developing players, maybe we should hire them!? I don’t see how OUR staff wouldnt be able to do a BETTER job than the SEL.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong
They can’t send him to the AHL, due to his contract with Djurgårdens. It’s a situation that is very specific to Zibanejad.
either way
i’d like to think that the staff we have here is more competant at developing talent that relying on a club that has no reason to consider long term success for ZBad
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not just about the staff though
It’s also about the environment. I, and many others, feel that the NHL was the wrong place for him to develop this year.
I respect your opinion
but i feel the environment here is pretty much first class. He wanted to stay.
Managment just wanted to milk out the contract IMO.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, so you think his SEL team has no motivation to get him playing his best?
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Not for the long term.
If he is scoring goals, i’m sure they would overlook many bad habbits that would not be condusive to long term success.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
All i'm saying is usually kids get sent down because their mistakes
can lead to losses and teams cant afford that. They don’t get sent down because ‘others’ are better at development.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that
But I guess I’m not as down on the SEL as you. I don’t think we lose much having Zibanejad there. I’d prefer him in the AHL, but his contract doesn’t allow it.
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Kids also get sent down because they aren't ready, can use more top line minutes, etc
It’s not always due to mistakes.
Yep.
And I’d also call it a mistake to play to survive instead of playing to win.
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Not necessarily
Playing to not screw up isn’t what I’d want from this kid, and I don’t see that as changing after the 9 games. To me, it looks like he’s still kind of tentative or unsure and he’s trying to not hurt the team. And that’s fine, he’s generally not hurting the team. But he’s also not helping.
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yes
but i think that’s part of the development, right?
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure it is
But I think the best way to improve his decision-making and his confidence is to have him playing big minutes on a top line.
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I mean, he wouldn't be playing to "survive" anymore
Maybe to avoid being a healthy scratch, but not to stay on the roster.
Well we could still have sent him to Sweden later.
Plus Bryan Murray said both that he was playing “to survive” and “to not make mistakes”, and he said it in the same sentence.
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I am in agreement with you
that the better place to develop Mika is here, where Paulrus can supervise the process. The other side makes some very compelling arguments as well. One thing to consider: is it better for Mika Z to have less memory of a not so successful NHL campaign, but a successful one in SEL, WJC, World Cup etc? And then come back to the NHL next season, fresh and a better understanding of what it takes? Or learning the trade here and doing ok based on a lower expectation. Or maybe he gets really frustrated here with little progress and going into next season burdened with negative memory? Hard to tell: we’ll never know now. As mature as he seems to be, 18 y.o psychological makeup can be fragile to failure. I think I am trying to convince myself why he is going back but this is the best I got. So suck it up and accept it lol.
by whatsinaname on Oct 26, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I think he'll struggle for a bit, whether it's this season or next.
And I don’t think those struggles will last long enough to really affect him psychologically. But as much as I’d like to see him working with our staff, I’d rather see him playing top line minutes somewhere else than playing fourth line minutes here.
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No question about his struggling
and in a market like Ottawa with everything analyzed to death……I am glad this is over. Now, when is ZK going to score his second goal?
by whatsinaname on Oct 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
cool.
the thing is the team he’ll be playing for lost in the first round of the playoffs last season, and could potentially miss this season. i agree though that this season might jsut be miserable for him.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see him back in Ottawa
after his season just to be with the team, training, getting ready for TC during the summer and be totally into the team and city. And this time , he will stick.
by whatsinaname on Oct 26, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll play plenty of hockey
He’ll play the regular season, he’ll play in the WJC, he’ll play in the playoffs (hopefully), he might even play in the World Championships. There’s no shortage of games there.
I see your point, but I don’t see it as a big deal. The kid’s 18, he has a lot of hockey ahead of him.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Really excited to see him in Late December/Early January
I love the world juniors.
SO JEALOUS
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i’ll have some sweet scouting reports for the site on 2012 draft-eligble players, and those from the Sens’ system.
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If only Da Costa and Lee could go with him
by Alexander Calloway on Oct 26, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
You should be nice to DaCosta
He’s our new 2nd line centre!
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
DaCosta got skillz
I think he has played fairly well considering he has no AHL seasoning, better then Butler
Good on Mika
Speaking to the media now. Mendes said a lot of guys would have hid for a bit.
I would have been okay with either decision, but hope he has a strong season!
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Also...Mika Zibanejad is now trending Canada-wide on twitter!
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Still wish we Landesgog
I agree it doesn’t seem like he is 100% NHL ready and would probably benefit a lot by playing in the a full year in the Swedish league, plus it opens up another spot on the roster to give Nikita Filatov another chance and an opportunity for Daugavins to maintain a roster spot he played an awesom game last night.
Wouldn’t you have preferred Murray to trade 2 or 3 first rounders for a top pick so they could draft Landesgog I mean it was almost destiny that he would be a Senator, not taking anything away from Mika but you can just tell Landesgog will be a great player in the NHL.
Landeskog might be a great player
But just because he’s a better player today doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll be a better player forever. Some players develop sooner, some later, and time will tell which category Landeskog and Zibanejad fall into.
Personally, I prefer the three first-rounders we selected to Landeskog. Not only have we increased our odds, but judging by the performances this season, there’s a good chance we get two or three real players out of the draft. That’s incredible.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep like Samsonov and Thornton for example.
Not saying that Zibanejad will be better than Landeskog, but too early to say.
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Yeah, I was high on Landeskog too
But even if Zibanejad isn’t as good a player overall than Landeskog, he might be just the player the Senators actually need. We’ll see.
more like
Michalek and Heatley
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant that they both had their rookie seasons in 1997-1998, Samsonov had 47 points, Thornton had 7 points. And then Thornton ended up having the better career.
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oh
i was just saying Michalek>Heatley
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
As much as I woud have liked Landeskog
there is nothing wrong with the three we picked in the 1st round. Three!! Great draft.
by whatsinaname on Oct 26, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No I would not have preferred that.
Lando may be good, but he’s not 2-3 picks good. A rebuild requires prospects. As in the plural. You cannot rebuild with just Lando.
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ya if we're giving up 3 1sts we go for gold
rnh or greater… or an offer sheet to a stud
Even RNH isn't cutting it for me, really.
Maybe 2 1sts if the second one is really low. But 3 1sts better be getting us two guys or Stamkos or something.
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RIGHT MOVE
I was also worried that they might keep him from all the speculation but this is definitely the right move in my mind. Confidence is everything for a player and I would be very worried of him losing his confidence here in the NHL if he didn’t start producing and stayed the whole season. I really believe he has what it takes to be a top notch player and can’t wait to see him in world juniors and back next year!
What I like most about this?
Spreads out our prospect development, and clears some room on the roster.
1. We have enough young kids on the roster already. This move allows some of them to play more ice time, and (hypothetically) reduces the number of players making mistakes in order to learn; in sum, it makes the team better, which increases the chances of developing a winning attitude among the players.
2. More room will allow for more advanced prospects (I speak in terms of age here) like Da Costa, Filatov, or Daugavins to get their opportunities with the team. It also opens the door to trading a defenceman for a forward, perhaps in a salary dump-style move where another team wants to clear a good but underperforming, well-paid forward in order to clear cap space.
Time will tell. It all comes down to more options for the team.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
where another team wants to clear a good but underperforming, well-paid forward in order to clear cap space.
a la David Booth to VAN?
Are you asking me or are you telling me?
You're an expert?
So you're an expert?
So you saw it...you're saying you saw it on the...you're an expert?
You're not an expert.
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a la scott gomez
if montreal attaches 5m in cash to account for the buyout next season
This wouldn't work for me
I have no desire for Scott Gomez. I’m not convinced his attitude is right.
Brian Gionta, on the other hand…
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with you Peter...
I think the only part of his game that needs work is his skating. He has great vision, and once he gets the puck, he can usually make it do what he wants. He hasn’t taken nearly enough shots to criticize his shooting. I think the only thing he needs to work on is his skating. Once he does that, he’ll be great.
I also think Da Costa will improve greatly if he moves to the #2 centre spot. Creative players like him can’t play with plugs…
Are you asking me or are you telling me?
You're an expert?
So you're an expert?
So you saw it...you're saying you saw it on the...you're an expert?
You're not an expert.
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Ya, he's big enough and fast enough
let him learn the game here…i hate this.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn’t taken nearly enough shots to criticize his shooting.
Isn’t that a criticism in and of itself?
If a player doesn’t shoot, he can’t score.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
fair enough
but I only saw one glaring weakness in his game. His skating.
I think BMurray (not my dad…the other BMurray) said it best. He was playing to not make mistakes. That sums it all up.
now that this is over…when will we see Filatov?
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So you saw it...you're saying you saw it on the...you're an expert?
You're not an expert.
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Filatov Cocktail!
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 26, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Who does Filatov bump, though? Foligno?
It really looks like Greening is a lock on Spezza’s wing, and I don’t foresee Filatov getting called back up unless it’s to play in a top-six role.
Yeah Foligno down to third line, Daugavins can be a useful 4th liner maybe.
Greening-Spezza-Michalek
Filatov-Da Costa-Alfredsson
Foligno-Smith-Neil
Daugavins-Winchester/Konopka-Condra
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Sadly, I don’t think Regin is going to be back any time soon. Read that Regin is asking for a second opinion on his shoulder. I am completely guessing, but to me that sounds like first opinion was surgery.
I could be completely wrong though. :)
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Yeah, I just saw that as well. Too bad for Regin. I guess this means Da Costa is about to see a serious bump in his ice-time?
Like it
Da Costa made a bunch of sweet plays in the early going. I’ll bet he grows into a fine plug on this team at 2nd line C this season.
I like the foligno-smith-neil combo too, lots of bang. I’m thinking it actually might be better/more dangerous with Condra instead of Smith.
Not what I'd most like to see
Daugavins deserves and NHL shot at least as much as Filatov does, in my opinion. I’d like to see him play a bunch more games (maybe six or so) before the team makes a decision on him, and at that point, if Daugavins hasn’t worked out, Filatov can be brought up to get a shot of his own. Assuming he’s shown whatever the team was looking for during his time in the AHL.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha I love this comment by Murray
In turn I think, from Mika’s point of view, we want to have to pay him a lot of money in the future and that will only happen if he becomes, as I say, a legitimate top-six forward and creates offence."
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Thx
I like the part where he asked Alfie’s opinion and had him talk to Zibanejad. Doesn’t that make you think Alfie is primed to join the coaching staff in some capacity in the coming years?
Alfie can help this organization long after he's done skating, so I hope so
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I want his name on the first cup this franchise wins
If not as a player, then as management.
Alfie strikes me as more of a manager than a coach
I don’t know him personally, but my understanding leads me to believe he’d be a better GM or Director of Player Personnel than a coach.
If he is a coach, I’d see it as an assistant specializing in penalty killing or conditioning or something.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind him being a Director of European Scouting either if he decided he wanted to spend more time in Sweden for family reasons.
He's already said he plans to stay in Ottawa after he retires.
His kids were all born here. Makes sense that he’d stick around.
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Could give him an excuse to travel back to Sweden that much more often, though
Though that can be done in a role of Director of Player Personnel, too.
Travel for business probably isn't much fun when you've got kids
Maybe once they’ve grown up he’ll be interested in it, but I’m not sure. Alfie seems like a bit of a homebody.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
From personal (as the kid) and 2nd hand (including a pro scout) experience, it can still be a lot of fun
I mean, it wouldn’t be true for every business trip, but the family can come along sometimes. I got to see Canada coast to coast by the time I was 8 thanks to my dad’s job. The son of the pro scout I know had been pretty much everywhere in the world where hockey is reasonably common by the age of 6. His son and wife would do the tourist thing while he was at games for the first bit or just join him after if it was a tournament he was there for, then he’d take a few days before heading home and the entire family would do the tourist thing.
I like it.
I’d rather he play more ice time even if it’s with different rules. He played too timidly and I never really noticed him because of that – except when I saw bad moves resulting in the other team having the puck. It makes sense to me that the best way to get over that is to play top-line minutes and have top-line responsibility. Sure it’d be ideal to have him in the AHL, but I’m okay with fewer games in Sweden rather than wasting a year of his NHL contract on a player about whom the best we can say is that he wasn’t hurting the team.
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Dude is 18
Unfortunately he’s on the big stage, so ever part of his game will get over-analyzed. But he’s young and raw and probably just not fully developed yet. A year in the developmental league (SEL! ;)) will help alot.
I agree
I totally see potential, but I don’t see the confidence and good decisions to realize on that potential. Yet. A year spent on the top line should help develop it.
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I'm glad this is over with. I've actually been on pins and needles.
Murray loves the international competition, and I’m a big fan of this. I kept forgetting that Mika didn’t even have a full season in the SEL, and I’d rather see us trying to fill the gaps in the forward ranks than the young guys sitting. It gives guys like Kaspar more opportunity. A crisitunity, if you will.
by Pmoron on Oct 26, 2011 4:15 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
I started to worry when I kept reading that it could take until the weekend
But I agree – long term this is better for everyone.
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Yeah, same.
He’s only got so many games left in the SEL, if they postpone it too long it really starts to feel like they might as well keep him…
by Pmoron on Oct 26, 2011 4:26 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I would rec this
Except you posted a link instead of just posting the picture.
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True, my been a while since I actually though about posts
There we go, and thank you.
by SuckItTrebek on Oct 26, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don't think that ever existed
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I could delete your posts
I CAN DELETE THEM ALL!
No, but seriously, it doesn’t exist because deleting one comment deletes all the responses thereto. So while it seems like a good idea in theory, it poses the possibility of severely disrupting the conversational style of comments on the platform.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why I always program my delete/edit functions with both time and no-reply restrictions
Though I’m sure you don’t have any control over the code base for the site.
Be thankful I don't
Because it wouldn’t be nearly as smooth as it is if I was in charge of coding it.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Z-bad speaks on it
"I really wanted to stay, but I knew there was an option that they were going to send me home," he said Wednesday, moments after the Ottawa Senators opted to ship him back to Djurgardens of the Swedish Elite League for the remainder of the season. "I was prepared for that and prepared to stay. And this time, it was that I was going home. It’s sad, but on the other hand, it’s good for me. It’s a good option to improve my game.
http://www.senatorsextra.com/main/zibanejad-says-goodbye-for-now
Terrific
Great kid. Solid character.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, what's done is done. No use crying over spilled milk
Time to beat Florida!
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions
Paul really wanted to keep him so did I
But that was more for selfish reasons I guess. Right decision in the end though because he wasnt getting the ice time he needed to become succesful
my question is
it was clear Paul wanted him, why?
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, i agree with you
i want to know why Paul wanted him
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Paulrus felt that Mika Z
could develop better under his watchful eyes, that MZ is NHL ready, size wise with good skills set, etc, etc.
by whatsinaname on Oct 26, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree that he would of been better off here.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s okay, there is still seeing if the Habs can lose again. Go Flyers!
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 27, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
I tried cheering against the Habs, but it meant cheering for the Flyers. That’s just not who my momma raised me to be. If it were possible for both to lose, I’d be allll over that.
by Pmoron on Oct 27, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
i would have to agree with him
wish he was sticking around. I disagree with this discision.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 26, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
October 27,2011. Life after mikachu93
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