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Silver Nuggets: Special teams edition

OTTAWA, CANADA - OCTOBER 22: Milan Michalek #9 of the Ottawa Senators skates against \Alexandre Giroux #28 of the Columbus Blue Jackets during an NHL game at Scotiabank Place on October 22, 2011 in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.  (Photo by Jana Chytilova/Freestyle Photography/Getty Images)

After the Senators scored two goals with the man advantage, and a third goal on a 4-on-4 situation that was essential a power play with the goaltender pulled, I thought it is worth looking at the Senators special teams.

In terms of conversion percentage, the Senators are third in the NHL at 29.0%. That is certainly an excellent rate, but it won't help as much if the club isn't drawing as many penalties. Last year the Senators were 15th in power play percentage but only 24th in power play goals. This year, the Senators are drawing more penalties and are actually tied for the league lead in power play goals with 9. They have earned 31 power play opportunities, good for 7th in the league, however their 3.875 power play chances per game is only good for 17th. It is clear that the Senators power play has been a huge part of their offence, and out of their 23 goals, 9 have been scored with a man (or two-man) advantage. That's 39.1% of their total offence and makes them the fourth most power play dependant team in the league.

While the power play has been excellent, the penalty kill is a different story. Their 69.2% kill rate is 29th in the league and the 12 goals allowed is 30th. They have been shorthanded 39 times, tied for 28th in the league. On a per game basis, they have been shorthanded 4.875 times per game, tied for 25th. The Senators penalty kill is responsible for 35.3% of their total goals allowed, which is 5th most in the NHL.

Ottawa's power play has been excellent but their penalty kill has been even worse. To make matters worse, the Senators are shorthanded exactly one more time per game than they are on the power play. On the bright side, the penalty kill will get better. No team has been below 74% on the penalty kill since the lockout. The power play will slide too, with the best post-lockout power play at 25.5%. The penalty kill unit is playing worse than it actually is and the power play is overachieving, but will the penalty kill improve more or will the power play falter more?

Star-divide

Last game

  • Recap of the 4-3 win over Columbus. (Silver SevenOttawa SunOttawa CitizenJackets Cannon)
  • Jackets Cannon tracked scoring chances during the game. The results relate pretty well with the Corsi ratings posted in our recap, with Jason Spezza's line out-chanced by pretty much every Columbus line. Zack Smith's line on the other hand had more net scoring chances regardless of who they were matched up with. Filip Kuba did a solid job on Rick Nash, coming out even in scoring chances with his line. (Jackets Cannon)
  • Ottawa's win was only the fourth time in fifteen years a team has won a game in regulation that they trailed in the final minute. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Post-game video with Paul MacLean. The Senators may have pulled it out late, but MacLean thinks the Senators deserved the win as they kept at it for 60 minutes. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Daniel Alfredsson was understandably very pleased, calling it one of the "sweetest victories". (Ottawa Senators)
  • Milan Michalek has been part of a finish like this once or twice before. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Jason Spezza was also very happy with the win, also mentioning that the club hasn't had such a win in a while. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Sergei Gonchar comments on the veteran leadership on the club, particularly that of Daniel Alfredsson. (Ottawa Senators)
General Sens News
  • The Senators recalled Kaspars Daugavins to Ottawa this morning. Daugavins has four goals and two assists for six points in seven games with Binghamton this season. He will wear #23. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Daugavins skated with Mika Zibanejad and Nick Foligno this morning. Daniel Alfredsson wasn't at practice. The lines were: 1) Greening-Spezza-Michalek, 2) Daugavins-Zibanejad-Foligno, 3) Condra-Smith-Neil, 4) Konopka-Da Costa-Winchester. (Sylvain St-Laurent)
  • Daniel Alfredsson will not play tomorrow in Carolina due to a hip flexor injury. He hopes to be back for Thursday against Florida. (Wayne Scanlan)
  • Bryan Murray hasn't decided on Mika Zibanejad yet and might consider making him a healthy scratch after tomorrow to buy more time before making a decision. (Steve Lloyd)
  • Jason Spezza had been asked to step it up this season and he has. He is currently third in the NHL in points with 11. Paul MacLean has also been happy with Spezza's play, commenting on his shift length as well. (Ottawa Sun)
  • Spezza was recognised for his recent performances by being named second star of the week by the NHL. (NHL)
  • Not everyone is happy for Spezza though. A Calgary Flames blog finds it depressing to see Jason Spezza "waste his career in Ottawa". (Matchsticks & Gasoline)
  • Colin Greening is off to a pretty good start playing with Jason Spezza. He is also the biggest and strongest of the Senators forwards. In terms of work ethic and endurance, Randy Lee sees some similarities between Greening and a former Senators player, Zdeno Chara. (Ottawa Sun)
  • Are the Senators as bad as predicted, following the last two games? Then again, they only beat two struggling clubs and needed two goals in the last minute against one of them. They were definitely expected to lose against Detroit, Philadelphia and Washington. Even the Toronto game on the road, the Senators were not expected to win. The only shocking loss so far has been to Colorado, so the Senators were realistically expected to be 4-4 at this point and they are 3-5. (Ottawa Sun)
  • Matt Carkner and Bobby Butler are skating again with the club, but are still not close to returning to the lineup. (Ottawa Citizen)
  • The Senators might have had their scoreboard breakdown twice already this season, but take a look at what happened in the Edmonton Oilers arena. (Black Aces Ottawa)
  • Jason Spezza, Milan Michalek and Daniel Alfredsson are doing what some expected Craig Anderson to do: steal some games for Ottawa. As Darren noted this morning, the trio has combined for more than half the Senators goals. If Jason Spezza were to get hurt, whether it is Zibanejad or Da Costa that replaces him in the following game, the Senators will have a player with one career point as their top line centre. (Welcome To Your Karlsson Years)
  • The Binghamton Senators rebounded from a 7-0 loss in Norfolk by winning 3-2 in a shootout at the same building. Robin Lehner stopped 36 of 38 shots as well as all four shooters in the shootout. He also assisted on both Binghamton goals. Andre Petersson scored his first career AHL goal and also scored in the shootout and was the best forward according to Kurt Kleinendorst. (Press & Sun-Bulletin)
  • Daniel Alfredsson to the Calgary Flames? That's crazy talk. Even if the Senators wanted to trade him, what does Calgary have that we could want? If Alfie wants a cup run, Calgary isn't exactly the place to go. To be fair, the article did say it is unlikely Alfredsson gets traded. (The Hockey News)
  • Paul MacLean said Peter Regin's injury won't impact the Mika Zibanejad decision. Zibanejad didn't play too much more than usual for the rest of the Winnipeg game, and he also played less than Zack Smith in the Columbus game. (The 6th Sens)
  • Erik Karlsson, already sporting a bit of a moustache, will be joining the movember challenge. (Ottawa Senators)
  • If you would like tickets to see the Senators take on the Florida Panthers with us on 22 December, here is the post with the details. Alternatively, simply email me at the address on my profile. (Silver Seven)
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Like you said, the Alfie trade rumour is just plain nuts

Murray would be lynched for sending Alfie to a non-contender.

I’d dare say it’s even crazier than the perennial “Spezza to Toronto” rumours.

by B_T on Oct 24, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I love that Calgary would be an improvement.

Because they’re the Sens of 5 years ago? The Flames have mortgaged the farm under Sutter and will probably experience the same stocking the farm system under Feaster, that the Sens went through with Murray.

by Pmoron on Oct 24, 2011 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anybody who thinks the Flames are like the Sens from 5 years ago is absolutely nuts

Their farm system, maybe, but definitely not their NHL lineup. The current Flames NHL line up will be fortunate to not be the Sens from last year (avoiding the bottom 5).

by B_T on Oct 24, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's exactly my point...

Their farm system is mostly garbage and they’ve been patching with free agents to get them over the hump. They’re going to keep losing ground, just like the Sens were after 06-07.

by Pmoron on Oct 24, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

But my point was that they don’t have as far to go to hit bottom as the 06-07 Sens did. The 06-07 Sens were the peak of a team that sold the farm and made it to the Stanley Cup Finals. The 10-11 Flames were the peak of a team that sold the farm and missed the playoffs.

The Sens had more years of decline before hitting bottom, but Calgary is going to have more years on the bottom.

by B_T on Oct 24, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

not only is this "rumour" not credible but its illogical

First, how do you think Calgary fans would react to trading an asset (bourque) for an aging vet? Second, why the hell would Alfie want to go there? Third, giving up Alfie at this point would create such a leadership vacuum in Ottawa – with all the younguns here, it makes no sense. I like Spector’s analysis on trade rumours generally speaking and he didnt see the sense in this either.

by west-sider on Oct 24, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matchsticks & Gasoline is on to something with this whole "wasting Spezza" thing!

Ha, not really. I wouldn’t describe his efforts as “wasted.”

I still think we should trade him, though.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

FLAGGED!

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by Adnan on Oct 24, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry that you don't like reality

:(

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, I am not getting into this again.

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by Adnan on Oct 24, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have to

I respect your opinion; it’s just not enough to change my mind. :)

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leadership vs Orphanage

Alfie may very well retire next season. Spezza’s leadership will be needed then, because after Alfie, forward wise, who else is there! If not Spezza, Gonchar & Alfie showing how to generate a comeback such as last Saturday, who? Foligno? Milan? The kids need leaders who are proven scorers to develop and get inspiration from.

Young developing players without leaders are akin to being orphanaged and left to fend for themselves. It’s still weird to think of Spezza as the team leader (I keep seeing him as that 18 y.o skinny kid) but he is going to be okay.

by whatsinaname on Oct 24, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the problem Edmonton is having.

They have no veteran leadership to carry them when times get tough. Smyth? Horcroff?

I think you need a solid 1C with a scoring winger who, when they need to, can just take over the game. Alternatively, a defenceman who can score that goal you need/stop the other team in their tracks (Chara-esque). We have that in Spezza, and Alfie can still do it.

by The Tif on Oct 24, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think that Spezza is the only leader in the NHL

Next year’s UFA crop includes guys like Shane Doan, Zach Parise and Alex Semin. I would consider all of those guys leaders who are proven scorers. There’s no unfillable leadership void if Spezza leaves.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's harder to bring a leader in than keep the one you've got

Because the one you’ve got has already established a rapport with the team.

It’s not impossible to bring a new leader in – but it takes time for them to be able to command the same respect in the room.

by B_T on Oct 24, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spezza's got one year with most of these guys

That’s not much of a concern in my eyes.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most, but not all

And the new kids are going to take their cues from the guys in the room who aren’t new, including latching on to the potential leaders. Spezza has a head start with the new players to the team compared to anyone brought in from the outside because of that.

by B_T on Oct 24, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he has zero with kids like Puempel!

No, that was just facetious.

I get what you’re saying. I love Spezza’s leadership, but I don’t think it outweighs the benefits of trading him, I guess.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that depends on what you think the benefits of trading him are. I think the return would have to be pretty substantial to outweigh both the tangible(points, PK, face-offs,etc) and intangible(leadership, teaching, attitude, organizational culture) benefits that Spezza brings to the team (and will continue to do for several more years). It kind of sucks for him, but Spezza will essentially be the bridge between different successful eras for the Senators(touch wood). The fact that he seems to accept that makes him that much more valuable to the team.

by DW19 on Oct 24, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's the difference to me

Though I do think we’ll get three good years as a contender with him if he stays past 31. I just think the shot at a longer window with a younger player is worth it for the team.

I have nothing against Spezza as a player. I love him. It’s all a matter of timing for me.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

Though I think you’re under-valuing the benefits of a home-grown leader.

by B_T on Oct 24, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I probably am

I wish I had a better sense of the locker room to gauge that impact.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah! True

It’s not something that any of us here are able to state as more than a generalized opinion.

by B_T on Oct 24, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If a trade is beneficial

to Ottawa, then who can disagree. If we get back a equally proven, younger scorer with leadership quality and lots of upside and Ottawa comes out the winner, who can no to that. I would like to see how such a trade would look like.

by whatsinaname on Oct 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really wanted Columbus' first and Ryan Johansen before this draft

But there’s not much reason for them to do that with Carter on the books.

Finding a young team with a lot of scorers who need leadership down the middle (like Edmonton, I guess) is key. Spezza feeding Taylor Hall while mentoring RNH would be ideal for Edmonton, for example, but I don’t know what the Senators could get back to make that deal work for both sides.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best I could come up with when we had this conversation last time was Spezza to the Capitals for Backstrom. The benefit to Washington being greater experience and leadership from Spezza that coincides with their contention window and the benefit to Ottawa being that Backstrom is younger(and Swedish). Incidentally, despite not playing with Ovechkin, Spezza currently has a one point lead over Backstrom in the scoring race.

by DW19 on Oct 24, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember that now

I suppose with the Caps being undefeated they’re probably not interested in making moves at the moment.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top end guys are hard to trade away

With Spezza, you want a lot back in return to ensure that you as the GM will not be lynched by the fans. If you trade away Winchester and don’t get good value back, there’s little repercussion. But with Spezza, you better be more than right or you get fired for setting the team back.

by whatsinaname on Oct 24, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt about that

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the only proposal I have heard so far that I would consider if I were making the call.

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by Adnan on Oct 24, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad it is just me floating that idea and not the Capitals general manager.

by DW19 on Oct 24, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex "handbags" Semin?

Wayyy too soft to be the team leader.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 24, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We said that about Spezza once

You never know.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's so true and it's not that long ago too!!

Spezza’s come a long way and I’m sure a lot has to do with the team makeover.

by whatsinaname on Oct 24, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've known he was hard for a long time

Ever since the line brawl night with the Flyers.

I mean sure, he wasn’t exactly winning those fights. And he’s not Iggy. But it takes cajones to get in scraps when you’re not a scrapper.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He asked for more responsibility and got it

And actually backed it up. That’s huge for me. I think a big part of leadership is actually being willing to do the little things that leaders do. Talk is cheap.

Alfie earned his “C”, just like Spezza has earned his “A” (and eventually “C”) as opposed to Heatley, who got his for placating reasons.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

MAYBE Parise, but i wouldnt replace Spezza with either of the other two….Semin…Really?

Go luck yourself.

by ottawachiefsfan on Oct 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I watched Doan for 8 years in Phoenix

He is the kind of player any team would be lucky to have. He’s very much like Alfie.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 25, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the whole trade vs. don’t trade Spezza thing, if I look at the whole idea of “trading a #1 centre” out of the context of the Sens, these are my thoughts that I just keep coming back to: After a legit #1 goaltender, I think that a #1 centre is basically the second most important position for a hockey club. That said, a team should not be trading a #1 centre unless they have one ready to replace him, and they can be hard to come by.

So back to the Sens: While I agree with your whole analysis a while back when of how Spezza’s production will decline and we won’t compete until he is past his prime, I still don’t think we should trade him unless we get a younger future replacement (safely projected prospect or younger current NHLer, either through the trade or draft). If we have that in the farm, then I don’t mind going a few years with a replacement #2 centre playing #1. Might help out at the draft :)

I gotta say though, I feel like Spezza’s declined production is still going to be more productive then what we could possibly replace him with (in the short term). But, I suppose that isn’t really fair to Spezza.

Just my thoughts. I still feel undecided though, haha.

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 24, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, #1 centers don't grow on trees

And Adnan demonstrated the difficulties in replacing him pretty well.

Still, we’re going to have to replace him eventually. That’s a fact, as much as it sucks.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

like when he retires

I’m in no hurry to ship him off. We need to have some reason to bring fans to games and the return is not going to bring Spezza 2.0 imo.

by west-sider on Oct 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Problems with that

1) He’s not on a retirement contract with us. He’s scheduled to hit Free Agency when he turns 31 (I actually don’t believe this will happen, but it brings up another question of whether he should be re-signed considering what kind of money Brad Richards just got at 31)

2) The team will almost certainly be better when he retires than it is now. There’s even less reason to believe they’ll get Spezza 2.0 when they don’t have a lottery pick.

The argument that Spezza is hard to replace doesn’t change the fact that he’ll need to be replaced. As the team improves that will get harder and harder to do, don’t you agree?

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The contract argument is a reasonable one. Spezza will need to be re-signed at a similar time to when Cowen, Zibanejad, Rundblad are getting their second deals and not long after Karlsson’s second deal. That is not even figuring in money needed down the road for this year’s #1 pick and whoever works out among Stone, Puempel, Noesen. Silfverberg, etc… However, we also know that there is only one year left in the current CBA and pretty much all of these players (including Spezza) will be re-signed under the new CBA which at this point is a total unknown.

The argument that Spezza is hard to replace doesn’t change the fact that he’ll need to be replaced.

I’ll give you credit for most of your arguments, but not this one. Every player has to be replaced sooner or later. That doesn’t mean you can’t plan around them. This argument is just a truism unless you attach more specifics to it.

by DW19 on Oct 24, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

All right, that's fair

And, in fact, someday Zibanejad could emerge as the #1 center on the team. Spezza as the #2 in six years would be an ideal situation for Ottawa.

I guess if you’re looking for specifics, I don’t see how the Senators can plan around replacing Spezza. Their best (but not only) chance of that is to trade him for a top prospect and pick (similar to what happened with Yashin) in my opinion. If they choose to hold on to him, his value diminishes and they run the risk (albeit small) of losing him to free agency. In either case, replacing his production will have gotten more difficult.

The worst case for me is him leaving at 31 with no clear replacement on the team or in the pipeline.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst case for me is him leaving at 31 with no clear replacement on the team or in the pipeline.

If that happens, then his salary slot becomes available for either an internal promotion or a FA signing.

As far as planning around Spezza. If we say that he has a 3-5 year “window of maximum utility” ahead (I don’t know if you agree with that assumption) then there are lots of possibilities. During that window there could be many ways to replace him whether through deft drafting, some kind of trade or an FA signing. For example, maybe Lehner hunts down Anderson faster than expected. In that case, their may be a team that would be willing to give up a good centre prospect for a number one goalie and scoring winger (Silfverberg, Filatov, Butler or whoever else).

by DW19 on Oct 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree with that assumption.

I consider him to have 6 years of “elite” production left, including this one.

It’s the ways that we replace him that concern me. The draft is presumably the best way, and this year is probably our best shot. If we assume that the rebuild does take three years, drafting from a higher spots decreases the chances we’ll get a similar player.

Of course, it looks like we could very likely get ourselves a lottery pick by keeping him on the roster. If we can get his replacement this (or even next) year with a lottery pick, and comfortably swap centers as their production levels cross, then there’s not much reason to trade him. I’m only advocating it from a value maximization viewpoint.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand where they're coming from

after watching Jarome Iginla waste his entire career playing with no one close to his equal on Calgary, they’re probably really sensitive to seeing #1 centres playing on struggling teams.

Yeah, I said it Flames. ;)

by HaBla on Oct 24, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m really not a Flame hater, and I really love Iginla… but this is so true. It’s that thing that is in the back of my head every time I watch a Flames game. Sigh.

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 24, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nash is in the same situation in CBJ.

And when they finally got a guy to play with him, the dude got injured :(

by The Tif on Oct 24, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will be good to get Carkner & Butler back

Dunno where either of them is going to go right now, though.

Adnan, these are some good Nuggets, but I was wondering whether you wouldn’t have got more mileage out of making the analysis of the Sens’ special teams a separate post?

by JonathanA on Oct 24, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

At first, I thought Butler would go back on the top line

But Greening has shown his worth up there as a big net presence, opening up Spezza to do his thing and Michalek to help with the cycle/be at the net for a dirty goal. So maybe on the second or third line?

by The Tif on Oct 24, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

2nd line maybe?

With Regin hurt and Zibanejad possibly going either to the AHL or the SEL, that opens up a spot on the 2nd, although that’s more for a centre than a winger. I think Butler would be better off on the 2nd line myself.

by JonathanA on Oct 24, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the problem.

Even if you put Da Costa in the center, with Butler and Alfie around him – that’s a pretty soft and small line. Might work well since they’re quick and have uncanny vision (Da Costa is a ninja), but I’m wary. But then what about Filatov?

Filatov – Da Costa – Butler could be interesting, but you’re relying a lot on playing puck possession and keep away and avoiding being hit.

by The Tif on Oct 24, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Butler will get a shot up there with Giggles again

Greening is doing well now, but I am not sure he can keep it up long term.

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by Adnan on Oct 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! Well I mean, I don’t think he’ll play with Giggles long term, won’t you agree?

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by Adnan on Oct 24, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it depends

I imagine he’ll always get bumped for Alfie when the team is desperate for a goal. But if what Spezza and Michalek need to score goals is a power forward to create space, I don’t know if we have any better candidates. Maybe Foligno, but he hasn’t shown any consistency in that role and he’s been at it longer than Greening.

If MacLean’s looking for finesse, I’d have to think The Bust is a better candidate than Soylent.

I really don’t know. My gut says he won’t be there long-term, but I can’t see any reason to move him with the way the line is currently playing.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 24, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

For finesse, Butler has a better shot. But Soylent has shown his value as a big body. Might just depend on the opposition or if we’re on the PP.

by The Tif on Oct 24, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big body vs Finish

I like the idea of the big body in front of the net to cause havoc. Case in point, Milan scoring the winner in front of Mason. I can see Greening scoring a few the same way. But then the idea of a finisher like B.B with Spezza is very intriguing.

by whatsinaname on Oct 24, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greening

I see him sticking with Michalek and Spezza indefinitely as long as the line as a whole keeps producing. You need someone to do the dirty work that enables the stars to do their thing.

I’d put Butler on a lower line. Maybe you put him with Condra and ZSmith who are both good at digging out the puck, but not always great at getting it in the net (although that goal against Columbus was a thing of beauty).

by DW19 on Oct 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wrote most of them last night, but then the Sens kept making news this morning, so it got longer and longer. :/

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by Adnan on Oct 24, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh the Nuggets part was fine.

The more news, the better. I meant that it seems to me that you would have had more space to write about the team’s special teams play if it had been posted separately from the Nuggets. Not that I didn’t care for your analysis, either. And you can write the Nuggets however you like, really.

by JonathanA on Oct 24, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah looking back at it, it didn’t really work with the rest of the piece, so I agree!

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by Adnan on Oct 24, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

These Alfie being traded rumours are just crazy. He’s got a cap hit of almost 5 mil, so there’s no way Calgary can afford him without moving salary. For a team that has achieved so little the last few seasons, they sure like getting up near the cap.

by modsuperstar on Oct 24, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

REALLY TSN?

How tasteless is it to make fun of someone with an injury? The hell is wrong with you.

by The Tif on Oct 24, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think they meant to be tasteless

But considering that they have been striving to use puns in all of their headlines, à la nhl.com, tastelessness was the result, and doubly so, for both the pun was tasteless and the unintended mockery of Alfie’s injury.

by JonathanA on Oct 24, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

TALK ABOUT PAIN IN THE ASS

its these sort of storeys from the “will educated and eternally biased” sports broadcasters, who work for Toronto Sports Network, have made me realize that I have been wasting my useless consumption of valuable work time dedicated to this crap…all praise Silver Seven

by spezzasbrother on Oct 25, 2011 4:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's just a stupid punny headline

Nothing new. Overall, I think TSN is pretty good in terms of coverage. They just need to do away with these ridiculous headlines.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 25, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind the puns, but not when they make fun of someone's injury.

Like if they said “Eye see you” after Pronger went out for 2-3 weeks? Or “Going head first” after Crosby got a concussion

by The Tif on Oct 25, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ottawa's regular season is 10% over

(9.75ish for those of you who are fickle)

boy time flies!

by Caden on Oct 24, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

And we came out of it with a .375 record!

Extrapolated over a full season, we can expect a… 61.5-point season!

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Random question if anyone knows..

Does Spezza wear CCM now? Didn’t he used to use Reebok? He still has the Reebok pumps on I think, but everything else looks CCM… interesting.

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 25, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

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