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Silver Nuggets: What is Chris Phillips' role?

Chris Phillips is seeing his role reduced by the Senators. (Photo by Jana Chytilova/Freestyle Photography/Getty Images)

On Friday, Graham Nichols over at The 6th Sens wrote an article about Chris Phillips slowly having his role reduced. Now we know he is not going to demand a trade ala Dany Heatley, but what does this mean for Phillips?

So, is his role being reduced? By average ice time per game, Phillips is ranked third on the club. This would actually be fourth had Sergei Gonchar not missed the last two periods of the Washington game, bringing his average down. However, in terms of shorthanded ice time, Phillips is still second on the club and just eight seconds behind Brian Lee.

Phillips is also no longer exclusively being used against the opposition's top players. That task is now being given to Filip Kuba and Erik Karlsson. Against Detroit, Phillips and Brian Lee played against the Pavel Datsyuk line (not exclusively, but more so than anyone else). Against Toronto, it was Erik Karlsson and Filip Kuba who largely played against both the Phil Kessel and Mikhail Grabovski lines. This continued against Minnesota where Karlsson and Kuba played against Dany Heatley and Mikko Koivu. Karlsson had 19 minutes of even strength ice time, and more than 10 of those minutes was against the Heatley line. Phillips mostly played against Kyle Brodziak's line. This changed against Colorado where Phillips played against Matt Duchene's line more than any other defenceman. Lastly, against Washington, it was Karlsson and Kuba again who played against Alexander Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom, while Phillips played against Alexander Semin who is no slouch either.

So, what is Phillips' role now? He is definitely not part of the top pairing, that is clearly Erik Karlsson and whomever his partner happens to be. It is also worth mentioning that Phillips is playing with David Rundblad, so perhaps the reduced role for Phillips is more to protect Rundblad than Phillips. To be fair to Phillips, he's not being paid like a top pairing defenceman so it isn't fair to expect him to play like one. I have often been critical of Phillips, but I actually like his recent play. Over the last year and the early part of this, I no longer think he is good enough to be getting top pairing minutes or playing against the opposition's best lines all the time. But giving him a reduced role will allow him to be more successful and contribute. I see him as a second pairing guy, and possibly third pairing next season, with a good amount of penalty kill time.

Links after the jump.

Star-divide

Last game

  • Game recaps. (Silver SevenOttawa SunOttawa Citizen)
  • Stats from NHL.com (BoxscoreGame SummaryEvent SummaryFace-OffPlay by PlayIce timeShot Report)
  • Advanced stats from TimeOnIce.com (CorsiHead-to-Head Ice timeZone starts)
  • Post-game video with Daniel Alfredsson. Alfie says, "Too much Swedish, not enough finish." Ha! Funny Alfie! He does seem a bit down that he wasn't able to finish some of the chances he had. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Post-game video with Chris Phillips where he talks about the importance of keeping the shifts short and conserving energy when down to five defencemen. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Post-game video with Jason Spezza. He says he saw the entire play happen on his disallowed goal and puts it down to human error on the part of the referee. (Ottawa Senators)
  • Post-game video with Paul MacLean. He feels the Senators have played well in parts of four of the five games so far this season. MacLean thinks the Senators deserved a better fate but thinks the Senators might have to lose a few games like this before they start winning. He said Sergei Gonchar is day-to-day with a bruised foot, and Gonchar's status for the next game depends on his pain threshold. (Ottawa Senators)
General Sens News
  • Erik Karlsson (before the Washington game), didn't feel his play is bad defensively and feels he is good in his own end, adding he doesn't care if people write about his defensive struggles, as long as he himself feels he is playing well. He also is getting more comfortable playing a lot of minutes. As for why he is growing his hair? Well, he is getting married next summer and wants one year with long hair before his future wife makes him get rid of it. (Ottawa SunOttawa Citizen)
  • Before the Senators rebounded with a better effort against Washington, Pro Hockey Talk wrote an article asking if the Senators really are that bad. They feel the Senators defence needs Erik Karlsson to play all sixty minute, and also have himself as his defensive partner. Needless to say, they see us heading for the #1 overall pick. Well, Winnipeg and Columbus still have not won a game yet! (Pro Hockey Talk)
  • Don Brennan likes what he saw from the Senators three young defencemen, Karlsson, Rundblad and Cowen. With Sergei Gonchar injured, the Senators played most of the game with five defencemen and three out of those five were 21 or under. (Ottawa Sun)
  • Paul MacLean confirms they won't decide whether Mika Zibanejad will return to Sweden until he has played nine games. (Ottawa Sun)
  • The Senators had four Swedish players playing against Washington, and with Robin Lehner, Jakob Silfverberg and Andre Petersson waiting in the wings, they could have seven of them playing next season. But could the Senators have been filled with Russians instead of Swedes? A Fan Post from sensory_experience takes a look. (Silver Seven Fan Post)
  • Can Jason Spezza outscore Nicklas Backstrom this year? Maybe, it's possible but Backstrom has Alexander Ovechkin and Spezza has...Colin Greening. But when you read this website, not only do you get hockey discussion, but also a whole bunch of laughs. I mean, can you read "T.J. Maxx Presents Stanley Cup.com" and not laugh? That wasn't even the best part though. What are they trying to do? Well he says: "I’m just trying to put a roof over my post and food on my blog here". (Welcome To Your Karlsson Years)
  • On a more serious note, Varada this time writes about the dilemma of cheering for your team and still getting a high draft pick. The loss to Washington was the perfect scenario in his mind, where the club played very well but still lost. (Welcome To Your Karlsson Years)
  • The first 2012 mock draft is here. With the first overall selection, the Ottawa Senators are proud to select, from Tatarstan, Russia, Nail Yakupov! (The Hockey Writers)
  • Nikita Filatov had a solid weekend in Binghamton. He had two goals and an assist on Friday, was scoreless on Saturday and added another goal on Sunday. Filatov's tally for the weekend was 3 goals, 1 assist, 4 points, 10 shots with a +3 rating. He was also named as one of the three stars twice. He did get benched in the last 13 minutes of the second period, but responded well in the third. Robin Lehner started both wins. (Press & Sun-Bulletin)
  • Our public address announcer thinks we will go 3-0 this week. After hosting Philadelphia tomorrow, the Senators play the only two clubs below them in the standings, Winnipeg and Columbus. (Stunt Man Stu)
  • Craig Anderson (personal reasons), Bobby Butler (groin) and Sergei Gonchar (foot) missed practice today. (Dan Seguin)
  • Lines in practice were: Greening-Spezza-Zibanejad, Michalek-Da Costa-Alfredsson, Foligno-Regin-Neil, Smith-Konopka-Condra. (Sylvain St-Laurent)

General Hockey News

  • A good discussion on advanced statistics in hockey. Cam Charron writes why Corsi can't be taken too literally because there are some things that Corsi doesn't measure.  Gabe Desjardins, generally accepted as the pioneer of advanced statistics in hockey, counters that if things like 'hustle' matter, then someone should prove this instead of just saying so. Personally, I don't feel Corsi in itself should be used to judge a player. But Corsi, in combination with zone starts, quality of the opposition, or even situational Corsi, can help provide a clearer picture. (Arctic Ice Hockey)
  • Don Cherry apologised! Now remember, all you kids out there, when you are wrong you have to admit as much. It's the Kingston way. (Yahoo!)
  • Phil Kessel has had a ridiculously good start, can he keep it up? (Yahoo!)
  • The KHL is expanding to Italy, bringing the number of nations represented in the league to six, joining Russia, Slovakia, Belarus, Latvia and Kazakhstan. (Yahoo!)

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Gonchar’s out? This better mean that you guys beat the Flyers.

by Kevin Sellathamby on Oct 17, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a little annoyed that he knows a "bruise" will keep him out tomorrow

That seems kind of wimpy to me.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming that's why

And it’s not a thinly veiled excuse to belatedly sit him for phoning it in for the first 2 games.

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or that it's just bruised

I mean, can’t really get away with citing a “lower body injury”.

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, he *is* getting old

Maybe he just took the excuse for a maintenance day.

Oh Captain, my Captain!

by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope you're being facecious...

not sure if you’ve ever taken a shot off the foot, but i’ll tell you that i have taken shots half as hard as that and limped for 2 days.. you can’t build muscle around your foot ! bone bruises hurt!

by Caden on Oct 17, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm not really being facetious

I know those shots hurt like crazy. But I also know a lot of healing can occur in 24 hours. To know how you’ll be feeling in the future seems impossible to me, especially if it’s a matter of pain tolerance.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i spell awesome

i would just trust that after 30+ years of hockey, close to 20 of which are at a professional level, gonchar himself will have taken enough shots off the foot to know how long it will take to feel better

by Caden on Oct 17, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found it anyway

And it’s not like I was insanely skeptical – just a heads up that the link didn’t work

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not for clicking

Works if you copy it though. Stupid #! part broke the automatic link recognition. Forgot to remove it manually before posting.

This should work: http://twitter.com/NHL_Sens/status/125978341491740672

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It didn't work that way for me either

Although this one does

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odd

Stoopid Twitter.

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

One small addition - Butler could be out long term

Could be placed on IR soon.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my hockey league he’s already on IR with a groin injury if I recall correctly.

by modsuperstar on Oct 17, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of a misnomer to say that WTYKY post talks about a dilemma

There’s no dilemma in there. It’s just talking about how really that Washington game was a best case scenario for us.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Also said:

Rooting for losses is difficult, not only because you’d like your team to prove everyone wrong, but also because 82 games is a lot of hockey to watch if your team is terrible.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still not exactly a dilemma

Look obviously it’s a difficult position wanting to cheer for the team but wanting a good draft pick since you know they won’t do well, and I wouldn’t have objected if you said the article provided a take on the dilemma we’re in or something. But a post titled “On having the league exactly where we want them” and with an overwhelmingly positive tone is not talking about a dilemma.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Therese's fault!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's Karlsson's

I’m pretty sure she’s not telling him to grow his hair out now so that she’ll be able to cut off as much as possible after the wedding.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

But she won’t let him keep it long later. :(

Cramping his style and all.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's also his fault for having such bad taste.

I hope she makes him shave the perv stache too.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think his hair looks lovely. The moustache does have to go though.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am too late. :(

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 6:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

no no no

haven’t movies taught you anything? the day of the wedding is the perfect time to break up a marriage!

by Caden on Oct 17, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

You just show up at the church and object when they ask if anyone objects.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 18, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hairlogik

Go easy on the Stockholm Slickback. He is like Samson with that golden brown waterfall

How is anyone supposed to top Sterling Snakehouse?

by worsteverything on Oct 17, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hairlogik is the best thing I have heard all day

This is my new Karlsson nickname.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But James’ real nickname for him is Special Little Guy!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please no 3-0 run...

Look at the standings…Winnipeg has 0 points, Columbus has 1 point, we have two points, in a logjam with a bunch of other teams. Now, these teams aren’t going to lose all their games, but why give them a better draft position? The last thing we should want is to finish 9-12 in the East, get an average player and become entrenched in mediocrity for the sake of getting some meaningless wins.

L- Philly, I could live with a win here but a loss would be nice.
L-Winnipeg FOUR POINT GAME PEOPLE. If we lose this, Winnipeg gets two points, we stay ahead because of the games played factor but then…
L-Columbus. They can go up to THREE POINTS, we’d be one point behind them!

Has this org not learned ANYTHING yet…we missed out on Tavares (a second dynamic center would be awesome now…) Landeskog, Nugent-Hopkins (Z-Bad could be a keeper and likely is)…

Exploit systems people!!!

by Quizzical Quorum on Oct 17, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Considering it's an organization that was investigated for possibly throwing games...

…and may well be the only NHL team to ever be investigated for that…

Sorry – but no. You don’t approach any game with a play-to-lose mentality.

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jinx!

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The timestamp CLEARLY shows you posted after me, not at the same time

So no jinx, even if it was only enough to make the minute change!

raspberry

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine actually showed up as posted on my screen before yours

So we must both have posted right as the clock changed from 1:34 to 1:35.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I somehow doubt that winning these three games will mean that we finish the season on the bubble.

We’re not a bubble team, and we don’t even have any injuries to deal with yet.

Also, what do you want them to do, throw games? Because they’ve been investigated about that once before and I understand that there are some serious consequences if you’re caught doing that. And good luck convincing these players to throw games anyway.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel it is going to be very depressing

If you are already cheering for losses in mid-October.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't even call that cheering for losses.

Cheering implies that there’ s some positivity. That’s just ranting.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point, but I disagree. I want them to go 3-0. I think they can, and I think a good run will help them gel.

There’s depth there, and there’s skill. Once they used to Paulrus’ system, they’ll be solid.

by The Tif on Oct 17, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't see them beating Philly

I mean it’s possible, but I don’t think it’s reasonably likely.

Winnipeg and Columbus sure. But I think most of us were expecting a win against Colorado too.

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping for a win against Winnipeg

Or at least a spirited game. Four point games are BS at this point – there’s lots of time left for sucking hard and tanking the season. When we start to do that, I’d like to have some good games I can look back on.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or at least a spirited game

I’m okay with just about any loss this early in a rebuild as long as that condition is met.

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I BELIEVE!!

I DON’T CARE HOW DELUSIONAL IT SOUNDS!!

[sticks fingers in ears]

NANANANANANANA I CAN’T HEAR YOU

by The Tif on Oct 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Picking in the top 3 does not guarantee a successful pick

See: Rick DiPietro, Patrick Stefan, Alexandre Daigle, Andrei Zyuzin, Dave Chyzowski, Kyle Turris, Cam Barker, Alexandr Svitov, Brad Stuart, Aki Berg, Scott Thornton.

I conceed the odds are better in picking 1st – 3rd vs 4th – 6th. But you said yourself that “Z-bad could be a keeper and likely is”. I like the drafting/scouting history & potential of BM and his staff, and have no problem conceeding the best chance at a pick in order to see effort, talent and a few wins. Thats why i watch the game. To be entertained and to see the team win. I trust this scouting staff to bring home a solid pick, regardless of if it is a 1st overall or a 10th overall.

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by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yakupov definitely looks legit, though

He’s a wrecking ball

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor should we

I’ll never support that

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t everyone look legit though?
Not saying he won’t be, but there is something great about all the top picks in their draft year for obvious reasons.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I want him above anyone else either way.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giggles to Yakupov should be great!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Koekkoek

But that’s probably more because he’s a distant cousin than it is because of his cool name – pronounced coo cook…

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's so many awesome names in this draft

Of course, there’s the amazing Frk, who is also an amazing player.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the Frk was that?!

So much potential.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

SO SAY WE ALL!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh

You’re starting that again? This is not a sci-fi blog. This is a hockey blog.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It follows naturally from Frk. ;)

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if you're not a sci-fi nerd. Or even if you are and just don't watch BSG.

I was just making a joke about how his name looks like the f-word. Thanks for ruining it.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I ruin all your jokes!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

I’ll keep that in mind next time you ask me to help you get tickets to a Sens game or do you some other kind of favour.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’ll get over it!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will I?

It’ll likely depend on whether you keep ruining my jokes.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shawn McEachern: The best Senator to ever wear 15.

by Speedy_McEachern on Oct 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You lose points for being so lazy in adapting it.

You know Adnan’s not blonde!

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giggles2Yakupov

is what WTYKY will be called in 2013*

*so long as the Mayan apocalypse doesnt knock out internet service.

How is anyone supposed to top Sterling Snakehouse?

by worsteverything on Oct 17, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. The other top prospects seem pretty D-heavy

If a lot of the high-end talent this year is on D, it would be very annoying to have a high pick that would get us a player we could have gotten later anyways. That is, assuming of course that we don’t continue to stock blue liners, but instead opt to choose a lower-rated forward.

If Yakupov is head and shoulders above the rest of the forward prospects and we’re not cruising for the no. 1 pick it would certainly take a lot of the joy out of being a lottery team in the season half of the season.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 17, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats when you trade down.

Pick up an early second rounder or another prospect to go down in the draft. That way you get the lower ranked prospect you want, and add some stock to the cupboards.

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by havey03 on Oct 18, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Phillips' role, I think that has a lot to do with Paulrus' style.

Maclean likes a puck possession game, so it makes sense that against the top line you have our best guys at playing keepaway. Not out best defensive guys (Phillips, Cowen and Lee). If they don’t have the puck, they can’t score. And if they’re trying to break out of their own zone, they’re less dangerous.

It’s no surprise opposing goals have come on the breakaway – Karlsson is learning, but only now is he learning how to use his positioning to get the puck (see Washington game). Otherwise, once they’re past him, it’s all good.

by The Tif on Oct 17, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

What is Phillips role on the team?

I see it this way:
1)I don’t believe that all of a sudden, Phillips lost the talent to play shut down hockey. In the past when Phillips has been strong in that role is when he was playing with another defensively sound defenseman. Gonchar, Kuba, Karlsson, Runblad – none of these guys fit that bill. (Volchenkov, Chara did) Lee, Cowen, Carkner do.
2)The entire team had a tough year last year. Especially the defense. Not that it was entirely the goaltenders fault, but when you make a mistake on ‘D’ and your goaltender can’t ever bail you out, it doesn’t help. Phillips in particular seemed to really struggle. I think he’s suffered some confidence issues as a result. Face it, when you’re -30 something on the year, its got to weigh on you.
3)Phillips is getting older. He can’t necessarily handle 25 minutes a night vs the opposing team’s top line. Not only are the minutes taxing, playing against the other teams top lines is more of a physical challenge and more mentally taxing.

I think Phillips is a valuable contributor the the team. It is about him being used smarter, not harder. Defensive zone draws, penalty kill. Limit his ice time to positions where he can be effective. Give him a partner that is strong on ‘d’ to help him regain some of his confidence. Play him against the 2nd line instead of the 1st. As he gains confidence back, he will then be a more effective mentor for the younger players on the team. With a confident Chris Phillips, PM can put him out in any defensive situation and not have to worry.

Again, use him smarter, not harder. He will be effective. He can still play the game and he can do it well.

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by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

That sounds about right

He should be able to do well on the second pairing. Although, I don’t know if he necessarily has to play with a defensive guy.

I don’t know about the others, but I have liked Phillips/Rundblad for the most part.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is tough to judge this early on who works with who.

When it gets to be 10 games in, you can start to see trends. Granted there seems to be only one season to judge Phillips on without a solid ‘D’ partner. My memory only goes back as far as Chara, & then Volchenkov. Last year, he was usually with Kuba, Gonchar or Karlsson and it didn’t work too well. The games he played lined up with Lee and Carkner seemed to go a lot better for him. Maybe it is a comfort thing for him to be able to just go out and do his thing. When he has to cover for a less defensive guy he tries to over compensate?

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Karlsson and Phillips have been brutal in the best. And definitely agree it’s too early to say, but I am just saying I have liked Rundblad with him.

Playing with Volchenkov was probably some of his best I can’t deny, though I would pick Anton as the better partner in that. In a future pairing with Lee or Carkner, it will have to be other way.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

But how much of that success was the fact that both were in their prime?

Both have declined since then, and I’m pretty sure that even if they were reunited, they wouldn’t live up to that standard anymore.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

See original post, point # 3

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Everyone thinks they have enough.

by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was more directed at Adnan than you

And I think Phillips and Volchenkov would probably be better than either of them on their own now, just not as good as they once were. Plus I think age has been a lot harder on Volchenkov than on Philly just because of how he plays. The body can only take so much.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which...

Has Volchy come back home for a game yet? I feel like we owe him a lot of cheers and a standing O for all those blocked shots.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 17, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

Now I feel like a bad fan. Did we give him a nice video montage?

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 17, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Seeing as how it’s been well over a season and he signed with an Eastern conference team, he’s been back a bunch of times.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point, but to to be fair...

It’s been 1 season and a few games. And the Devils have only been in Ottawa twice during that time.

Also, Volchenkov was injured a fair amount last year, only playing 57 games, so I wasn’t sure if he’d ever been back and active so that he could be recognized.

by RogerTheShrubber on Oct 17, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played both games in Ottawa last year, but I can’t remember if we did anything.

I’d imagine we did though!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He only played 57 games

But played both in Ottawa.

Proof

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lawyer'd

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by The Tif on Oct 17, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do I get to say ‘Objection!’ now?

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That sounds about right

I wouldn’t say that he needs to be with a really defensive guy, but I’d say he shouldn’t be with a riskier, offense-oriented guy.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Runblad did well Saturday night.

Though I won’t pretend my heart didn’t jump into my throat every time #7 white was on the ice & #8 red came over the boards! Yikes!

I was really impressed with Karlsson’s game too. Gonchar had a solid 1st period. Cowen, though he played great defensively looked like he couldn’t wait to get the puck off his stick every time it came to him.

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by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Rundblad actually managed to play a full 5 minutes against Ovi without getting scored on. :O

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually liked that approach from Cowen, though

He’s not a puck-mover; he shouldn’t try to be one. I’d much rather have him get the puck to someone else than try to get fancy. His job should progress the same way every time:

1) Find the player with the puck
2) Separate the player from the puck
3) Pass the puck to someone who can create offense with it
4) Consult map hidden on wrist to figure out where he is

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd for 4)

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So rec'd again

Brilliant!

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot see your picture

And it makes me :(

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not being able to see it should make you :(

Because it is glorious.

I’m sure it will still be there when you are not at work.

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only those who truly believe in the picture can see it’s magnificentness.

by modsuperstar on Oct 17, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won’t be able to navigate it?

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by Adnan on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with that being his game by any means.

But I don’t want to see him uncomforatable with the puck, which is how he looked to me. From what I’ve heard he’s actually got a pretty good first pass. That was missing from his game I thought.

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by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah if he is going to be a pairing guy, he should be a good all round player. If we are expecting Karlsson to improve his defence, Cowen should get more comfortable with the puck.

On the other hand, five games into his career, I am okay with conservative play if he isn’t comfortable.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point taken

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by havey03 on Oct 17, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Auld starting VS Philly
Alex Auld will be in net again, after Craig Anderson had to miss practice Monday for family reasons. Anderson is expected to back up tomorrow and should get the start on Thursday against the Winnipeg Jets.

http://www.senatorsextra.com/main/auld-gets-another-start-for-senators

by B_T on Oct 17, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

It makes me wonder about a comment he made

Anderson made a comment a while ago about how he didn’t seem to think he was deep in his net. At the time I got the impression that he was kind of on the defensive.

In retrospect, it makes me think that more than likely there is something going on. I’d rather believe that than believe the “I just got the 3m contract, now it’s safe to suck” theory.

by SuckItTrebek on Oct 17, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely. Stuff off the ice (especially if means he has to go home for it) will distract him.

Also, I’d never expect a player to play hockey if a family member is sick. Go and be with them dude – that’s the important stuff.

by The Tif on Oct 17, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's Gonchar out with?

A bruised ego?

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by Speedy_McEachern on Oct 17, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

He blocked a shot in the first against Washington and didn't return

Reportedly a foot bruise.

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by Mark Parisi on Oct 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd also for timing

given the Footloose remake is in the works or coming out soon. Out of the park on two fronts – well done Mr. M!

by west-sider on Oct 18, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Gonchar is at home in his underwear singing Karaoke to this song. His agent might be there with him.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Karlsson!!

DON’T CUT YOUR HAIR!!! YOU MUST BE LEGOLAS!!!!!

by Ibanez_Guy on Oct 17, 2011 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

“workin on my foot bruise / tryin make them home fans shout more boos”
- Gonch Seger

How is anyone supposed to top Sterling Snakehouse?

by worsteverything on Oct 17, 2011 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

From Scanlan
Sens coach Paul MacLean calls Sergei Gonchar’s bruised ankle a “pain tolerance” issue. Translation: suck it up and play.

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Translation:

It is too painful to watch you play. Sit out since we have a handy excuse with your foot bruised.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 17, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take it easy on Gonchar... Please...

That first period he played against Washington was easily his best period in a Sens uniform. He was solid on ‘D’, he was moving the puck well. Hell, he even blocked a shot. Give the guy a little credit for playing well. I myself have had a bruised heal and could barely walk on it, let alone attempt to play a sport at a high level.

Face it, at this point, Sergie will need to have 0 distractions to regain his form. He doesn’t need the distraction of pain to deal with on top of trying to play his game. We have lots of players, its a long season. Let him heal, and he’ll be back.

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by havey03 on Oct 18, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it was tongue in cheek

I’ve been defending him for the most part, with the exception of calling him slow.

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by AlfieGirl on Oct 18, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this

It’s not Gonchar’s pain tolerance that’s an issue, it’s the pain tolerance of the rest of us.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 18, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: To those wanting to try Karlsson as a forward:

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

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ERIK KARLSSON Frolunda (SWE) Jul. 28/94 LW L 5’11/165 13 2 7 9 12

Another small Erik Karlsson from Frolunda, but this time he’s a LW! He must be our’s!

by HaBla on Oct 17, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for being awesome

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by Adnan on Oct 17, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOTTA HAVE THEM ALL!!

Seriously – I think someone found a way for us to ice a lineup of only Karlssons, including that kid.

by The Tif on Oct 17, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

A couple of Karlssons should tide us over

at least until we start drafting Alfie’s kids. Then we’ll be rolling.

by HaBla on Oct 17, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've already got Mattias Karlsson

… just need to get him back to North America. And Henrik Karlsson can’t be any worse than Craig Anderson has been this season.

by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 18, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time warp

I think that Phillips is just caught in a time warp where none of the Sens dmen are very sound defensively right now… not that they won’t be, but they aren’t right now… and so with all the reshuffling of the depth chart and the search for who fits with who, our GA is off the charts.

So the Stache is trying everyone out.

This draft is loaded and we should be gearing up to have lots of picks. Unfortunately we don’t have much to trade with that others would want.

Naturally any GM who’s calling is looking to scavenge Spezza or Karlsson…. no dice on that one…

What do you think Phillips could get us in return?… not much.. And who would we play in his place? That will be a test for BM and Company.

by Marvellous on Oct 18, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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