TSN feature on prospect Darren Kramer to air tonight
Tonight, TSN will be airing a special feature on Ottawa Senators Darren Kramer before the Jets/Hawks match-up. You might be thinking to yourself, "Wait, of all the Senators' prospects... why Darren Kramer?" Well, that's because the point of the feature is not to focus on burgeoning young talent, but rather, on fisticuffs, something Kramer knows a thing or two about.
Kramer led the WHL in fights and penalty minutes last season with 47 and 306, respectively, which blew away the competition. He had more fights than the next two most prolific WHL fighters combined. The next closest player in penalty minutes was Cody Beach with 236, so as you can see, Kramer is something of an expert.
The piece will feature interviews with Kramer, who will discuss why he chose to fight so frequently in order to get the attention of scouts. It'll also include interviews with Spokane Chiefs head coach Don Nachbaur and Senators assistant GM Tim Murray, who can further expand on the role of enforcers in hockey, even at the junior level.
When Kramer was picked in the 6th round by the Senators in this past year's draft, all we knew was that he could fight and that he loved peanut butter. Needless to say, his pick gave rise to two very different reactions from Silver Seven's writing staff in the comments:
This is such a waste of a pick. I know it’s a sixth rounder, but at least pick up a hockey player with risk/some sort of a future.
Amazing. He sounds awesome.
Since his pick, however, Kramer has revealed himself to have more talent than previously recognized. He was named the captain of the Spokane Chiefs for this season and has been praised for his leadership skills, and has 4 goals and 7 points in his first four games, meaning he's halfway to his point total from last season.
Kramer's increased reliance on his skills rather than his fists may be because of his training camp experience, as he recently told the Record Gazette: "The message was pretty clear when I was in camp in Ottawa that 47 fights was unacceptable. It's what got me noticed and it was what I was willing to do to get to the next step, but now it's time to develop my game." For inspiration, he's looked to his "former and hopefully future teammate" Jared Cowen -- his words, not mine, but you have to love that optimism and enthusiasm about being a Senator.
Hey, it looks like he could be a player after all. What do you have to say for yourself now, Adnan?
As mentioned earlier, you can catch that special tonight at 8:00pm EST on TSN during the pre-game show for the Jets/Hawks game, which unfortunately coincides with the Sens/Avalanche game. Choose wisely.
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Adnan thinks Kramer was a waste of pick even for a sixth rounder…now he’s got 7 points in 4 games AND is Spokane’s team captain. Is this the guy you want putting together Silver Nuggets articles?
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Adnan SAYS he’s going to vote for James to do the Silver Nuggets but we all know if he did them they would get done mayyyybe twice a week. You say you love Silver Nuggets but want a guy who would do a terrible, TERRIBLE job in charge? What is it Adnan.
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by worsteverything on Oct 13, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Give him a chance
Kramer was so obviously trying to get noticed in Training Camp hitting everything that moved. A sixth round pick is a long shot and he is a long shot to make it in the NHL. If he just tries to do it on brawn alone, good luck.
However, he seems to have some skill and it’s up to him to develop that in the next few years. He seems to have pretty good one on one skills and at this age one year of development can make a world of difference.
To write him off now or to buy a Sens sweater with his name on it would be premature right now. Give him a chance. I think he’ll develop into a fourth liner.
Ha, I still stand by that
When I see a guy drafted with 47 fights, at the time it seems like a waste of a pick to me. I only saw him for a brief time in the 1st (or 2nd) game of the rookie tournament on a grainy stream, but he seemed like a goon then as well.
You don’t need to draft guys like this in my opinion, even if you value that kind of skillset, they are readily available in the free-agent market for dirt cheap (i.e. Konopka). I’d rather they go for a long shot homerun ala Stone, sometimes it could work out.
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Skilled goons rarely are available, though.
Neil hasn’t left the Senators. Steve Ott hasn’t left the Stars. I’m sure there are others that I just can’t think of at this time.
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My personal opinion is these players will become less relevant over time. 7 points in 4 games is very good though, if he holds this up over the whole season (and fights less), that would be good.
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It seems to me physicality is never going to leave the game
I do think that fighting will probably go away eventually, but a player who can contribute something like what Neil did on Tuesday will probably always be valuable, I think.
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by Mark Parisi on Oct 13, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Right I agree, I never meant physicality will become irrelevant. I meant someone with skill who can fight. As an extreme example, I don’t consider Alex Ovechkin a skilled goon even though he is one of the most physical guys in the league.
Anyway, I typed like one line right after the draft pick after seeing the guy had 47 fights. P
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I think you might have rushed to judge that a guy couldn't play just because he could fight
Not that that’s not a fair assumption given Kramer’s stats from last year, but still…
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by Mark Parisi on Oct 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
*shrugs*
I don’t particularly care that much, I think I did mention in the original article whatever it’s just a 6th rounder. But not the kind of player I think is beneficial so I didn’t like it. But no big deal.
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Hey - were we too quick to judge Matt Cooke?
Actually, probably not (check that, definitely not), but look at the numbers he’s pulling up so far in this (early) season? I’m pretty convinced that you dont make the NHL being a one-dimensional player anymore and, frankly, a 6th pick on a guy that might be player but IS tough as nails is a fair gamble.
Also, it’s worth remembering that the events of this summer that really put the goon role in the spotlight came after the draft.
I don't believe Cooke has changed, for what it's worth
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by Mark Parisi on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's changed. But I think he's smart enough to know that he's being watched.
And I’m sure the Pens brass have spoken to him about it.
I'm not so sure they've spoken to him
Remember, this is the same brass that rewarded him with an A after he ended Savard’s career. But I’d like to hope so!
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I think he earned the judgement at the time
But it sure looks like he’s found a way to reform his game. I still don’t like what he did when he was playing that way, but I’m willing to give him another shot.
One more dirty hit, though, and I’m writing him off.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
It's easier to reform when the pressure's off.
I’ll wait until playoffs to withdraw my judgement on that sleaze-bag. When the pressure is on, that’s when he’ll regress. Anybody who watches a replay of themselves ending a person’s career, and smirks about it, is the worst kind of person (there are so many adjectives I’d rather use here).
by Pmoron on Oct 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've revisited my stance on fighting
But I don’t think I was referring solely to his fighting ability when I said he was awesome. Those quotes, from his coach and teammate, really help to show why he’s been named captain this season. And his performance so far this year might not be indicative of his long-term upside, but it sounds like he’s a very good project to have taken on.
I’m also happy the Sens brass told him that he wasn’t going to make it as just a fighter. Sage advice.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 13, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
I know that you weren’t referring to his fighting, but probably more to the quotes about him and his peanut butter love.
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I think the new peanut butter invention was also part of it. Sounds like a sharp kid.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Excellent photo caption.
+1, Darren. I can’t believe no one has mentioned it yet.
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Bwaahahaha...
Awesome.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Oct 13, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Not funny, Darren
That’s obviously Brian Lee on the right.
Sheesh.
by bobbykelly on Oct 13, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Great piece
Really taken aback by Kramer’s personality. That kid just seems like he’s got his head on right and would be great to be around. I can see why he’s seen as such a leader. I hope his play with the gloves on improves enough for us to see him in a Sens jersey one day.

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