Have the Senators players quit on the coach, or their goalies?
Things don't just look ugly for the Ottawa Senators right now.
They look downright hideous.
With 11 losses in the last 12 games, and outscored 47-20 in that span, the Sens sure look like a team that's thrown in the towel, and it's inevitably got people talking about quitting on the coach. Pierre LeBrun of ESPN tweeted shortly after last night's 7-1 loss to the Montreal Canadiens that the Senators looked "like a team that wants to get its coach fired". The din around the Web is that the Senators have quit on Cory Clouston, and it's showing on the ice.
But I'd argue the opposite. Despite the one-sided and disheartening losses, the Senators skaters are still playing with a good level of effort and hard work, and that can be attributed to Clouston.
I'd say that rather than quitting on their coach, the Senators skaters have quit on their goaltenders. And considering what we've seen throughout the season, it's hard to blame them if that's the case.
As bad as the struggles of the entire team have been this season, the Senators' goaltenders have been particularly disappointing. Aside from a few moments in games, neither Pascal Leclaire nor Brian Elliott have played like NHL starting goaltenders. I can count on one hand the number of 'good' games either have played ('good' characterized by no weak goals), which is bound to be frustrating. Starts have been given to both Mike Brodeur and Robin Lehner, and neither of them inspired much confidence; even if Lehner's start did end up as a victory, he definitely looked shaky.
In a recent interview, coach Clouston summed the situation up pretty well. From the Ottawa Sun:
"We can’t deny that it’s not frustrating when you give up those goals," Clouston said Friday morning of the weak efforts that beat Elliott Thursday in Philly. "Night in and night out, we do a pretty good job defensively, believe it or not. We outchanced them 2-1 almost. We held them to less than 24, 25 shots ..."Defensively we feel we’re playing pretty well. The guys are competing hard, they’re battling and we’re holding the chances to less than we have the last couple of years, believe it or not."
Although I'd question his statement that the team's defensive play has been great, most of what Clouston is saying is correct: The skaters are working hard, and playing fairly well. The team, on average this season, has given up 29.9 shots against per game, which is 14th in the league, but has also averaged 3.14 goals against per game, which is 27th in the league. Put them together, and you've got the fourth-worst save percentage in the league (0.896), which... well, which seems a fitting explanation of why the team also has the fourth-worst record in the league.
The fact of the matter is that Senators players have no faith in any of the goaltenders they can put in the net these days. Whether consciously or subconsciously, the fact remains that the skaters--to a man--can play the best games of their careers, and still lose the game because the last line of defence is riddled with holes. That's got to affect the way they approach the game and, quite frankly, it's impressive the skaters are still putting together some semblance of effort considering how bad their goaltenders have been on most nights.
There's no denying that there hasn't been much in the way of run support for the Senators' goaltenders, too. The team is second-worst in the league in goals scored, so that's obviously an issue, as well. But a big save at a big time can give a team a lot of momentum, and can be enough to energize a team offensively.
And the opposite is true, too: A weak goal at a key time will go a long way in quelching momentum a team may have been building up.
Can we expect much more? Perhaps not. With all due respect to Leclaire, Elliot, Brodeur, or Lehner, but at this point, none of them are the calibre of goaltenders to regularly steal games. But with even average goaltending this season, the team would be in a much better position in the standings. Decent goaltending would then give the skaters and shooters more confidence, and the success of the team in any way to measure would be at least somewhat improved, and perhaps vastly improved.
I'm not trying to argue that Clouston will be around after this season, nor do I necessarily think he should. With his contract up at the end of the season, and that of Bryan Murray, I think the organization needs to make it abundantly clear that they are moving in a new direction. But with the contracts of Elliott, Leclaire, and Brodeur up at the end of this year, as well, maybe that new direction needs to extend from the front office right into the crease.
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Something's gotta give....
I try to keep a positive attitude, but this is getting rediculous. Normally I would say, ‘you can’t blame the coach, he can say what he wants, if they players don’t do it on the ice….‘, well I’m seriously having second thoughts. The article about Dany Heatley leaving, did he know something? Well I’m wondering the same thing. Some of the right people left or were thrown away and some of the ‘not so good’ are still here. I just don’t get it.
Shake up this cage….and FAST.
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A team is an organic thing
From where I sit I see and hear rants about individual players not delivering. Which, point in time, may be very fair.But if we were to look back on the year, we would think EVERY player sucks and only individually only have occasional decent moments.
Peter asks if the team has quit on its goalies. I ask if the goalies have quit on their defence? If the defence has quit on the forwards?. If the forwards have quit on their D?
Because that is what I see. If your D sucks, the opposing offence will take risks against you with impunity. Your forwards start to play like they have to make up for your weak D. Your forward’s effectiveness plummets. If the opposing team isnt worried about your attack, they’ll take offensive risks with impunity. Your D start to play like it doesn’t have confidence in its forwards.
I believe that this team, player by player, is nowhere near as bad as this team is as whole organism. This team was a winner. It is now a loser.
Now, there are individuals responsible for the health of the organism and, I’m afraid that, at this point, this is where the solution has to start. Sure, we need some new blood. But good blood into a sick organism is wasted.
I think that there may be a player or so who are cancerous. They need to be excised by someone who knows how to look after the organism of the team. I am afraid that Coach is too junior to understand the bigness of this problem, regardless of how good he may be at on-ice coaching etc. Frankly, I am most disappointed in our GM – because THIS is his job. He should know this. I don’t care about good trade/bad trade etc. He needs to know about nurturing the organism.
And he doesn’t. This was a winner team. It became a loser team under our GM. 15 games after our appearance in the Stanley Cup final, cancers overtook our team health. And our inability to get healthy again points to one place.
Sigh
Rant over
Theoretically Murray did his absolute best to move out the bad influences on the team. There were lots of rumours that Redden and Emery were blowheads, so they were cut loose. They got rid of Heatley because he was a distraction.
Maybe the lesson here isn’t that you just throw guys overboard just because they cause trouble. Would the Sens be better off with Emery and Heatley still in the fold? At this point, probably, but I guess we’ll never know. Maybe as an organization we need to deal with internal problems as really just jettisoning those players for virtually nothing did more harm then good to this team.
by modsuperstar on Jan 23, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
With all due respect to Leclaire, Elliot, Brodeur, or Lehner, but at this point, none of them are the calibre of goaltenders to regularly steal games.
That statement right there pretty much sums up the entire history of Ottawa Senators goaltending. The only time we’ve ever had a big game goaltending was when we brought in Hasek and we know how that turned out. I’m a noted Lalime apologist, and I feel he’s the best goaltender we’ve ever had, but really he wasn’t one to steal games on a regular basis. The reason why the Leafs always handled us in the playoffs was because they had big game goaltenders. Joseph and Belfour were guys that could stand on their heads and make a 2-1 result stand up. None of the tenders Ottawa has can claim the same.
I used to feel that the team played with confidence in front of Elliott and not so with Leclaire. Now it seems that any confidence they had in front of him was shattered. The problem is this team isn’t built to play defensive shell hockey, which I would maintain was a hallmark of the A-Train era in Ottawa. We brought in Gonchar to make our offense better at the expense of defense and that clearly hasn’t happened. I think Murray was thinking we’d be playing Washington Capitals style games, winning 6-5 in barnburners all season, but he failed to factor in Alfie declining, Fisher coming back down from a career year, Kovy simply disappearing and the fact that we don’t have someone crazy like A-Train standing in the path of any shot on goal.
Sort of
I agree that the goalies aren’t good enough, but not that the team has quit on them. I doubt the team would be losing this much if they had Jason Spezza and Danny Heatley up front – even with these goalies. The problem is obviously with skill at both ends of the ice, and maybe on D. I really think that with two key finds – an elite winger for Spezza, and a real NHL starting goaltender – they team would be a real threat. Of course, those types of players aren’t easy to find.
Another thing though, if the players have not quit on Clouston after all of this, isn’t that a case for keeping him? I mean, that would make him the only coach they haven’t quit on in the last decade. That’s something.
Whoa there
At the beginning of the season it was goaltending that was praised as it became painfully obvious that the team lacked offense. eventually because of injuries to Leclair, Elliot faltered and there was no other solution. Our defense was exposed quickly as Kuba, Phillips and Gonchar struggled with turnovers. Let’s also not let Karlsson off the hook. There was supposed to be a team defense concept that not everyone bought into. Forwards who shone at the end of the season and into the playoffs last year like Reggin, Foligno, Fisher fell off the map early and it became obvious it was not going to work. Alfredson is showing his age this year as his physical play has gone down and Fisher played injured for a long stretch and opposing defenseman did not fear his coming down on them. This changes the approach other teams take when facing Ottawa. My strategy would be coming into a game against them to pressure the “D”, rush Alfie and don’t worry about Fisher. The rest of the team can’t score but keep an eye on Karlsson he may come up the middle and give up the puck.
by Hockey Playoff Run SensFan on Jan 23, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions
I dont think they've quit
To me, it’s just bad chemistry. Last Friday, I made honey-lime glazed chicken. The ingredients were awesome. The dish was decidedly not.
Maybe another group would fight for Elliott. Maybe he’d fight for them. But I think this is a team whose sum is less than its parts, and that’s disappointing.
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Which is the exact opposite
Of what a team is supposed to be.
I think this last little stretch shows how important Spezza actually is to this team, even when he’s not scoring. He is great through the neutral zone and getting that second pass off most of the time. He needs some kind of finisher to be really effective but still brings a lot to the table. His injury makes him being traded unlikely, but I think that would be a colossal mistake if that ever happened. He’ll never get fair value coming back until he has another “Pizza-esque” season, at which point he’ll become untouchable again.
Yeah, I agree
He’s a playmaker, not a scorer. I’m fine with that, especially if he’s backchecking more. But give him a finisher and we’ve got a good top line.
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I think that you can see teams suffer and give up when their goalies regularly give up soft goals like LeClaire and Elliott have done.
The problem with terrible goaltending is that it makes it so very hard to evaluate systems, coaches, and players.
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It all starts with goaltending
A team to be competitive needs to have strong goaltending, especially if the team in front is offensively challenged. In my opinion, Ottawa’s goaltending let’s in the first goal of the game way to often. How many times this year have we seen the opposition score the first goal on the first five or six shots of the game. Statistically, the team that scores the first goal has a better chance of winning the game or at least taking points from the game at hand. Psychologically, for a team that has trouble scoring goals with a shaky defense, it’s almost an insurmountable obstacle.
For this year’s edition of the senators, it’s an almost certain loss. They are basically unable to come back when the opp. scores first.
To back up my argument I’ve compiled some stats than might indicate this situation. The opp team has scored the first goal in 28 of 49 games thus far. Or 57 % of the time.
Which means that Ott have scored the first goal in 21 games or 43 % of the time.
In the 28 games that the opp scored first the stats are as followed.
LOSSES WHEN OPP SCORE FIRST = 26 LOSSES vs WINS BY OTTAWA WHEN OPP SCORES FIRST = 2 WINS
when the opponent team scores first the opp up to now has won 26 out of 28 games or 92.8 % of the time.
On the side of the ledger, In Ottawa’s 17 wins, 15 have come when they score the first goal. or 88% of the time. Only twice have Ottawa come back to win when the Opp scores first.
As far as when Ottawa scores first and loses the record is not good…
LOSSES WHEN OTTAWA SCORES THE FIRST GOAL = 6. Of the 21 games Ottawa has scored 1st, a whopping 6 have resulted losses or 28.58 % of the time
So if you score first on Ottawa, chances are you’re going to win the game. Ottawa cannot afford to let in that all important first goal. In my opinion, a large portion of the blame has to be goaltending not being competitive enough since letting that first goal in is all important for this team.
Goaltending matters
But I think the rest of the blame falls on the players. A 1-0 deficit with 50 minutes left to play isn’t the end of the world. But the way these guys act, you’d think the game is already over. They don’t seem to have the ability to pick their goaltenders up after a bad goal. It’s unfair to ask the goalie to always carry the team.
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by Mark Parisi on Jan 23, 2011 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good point
I think that was what BM was alluding to when he voiced his disappointment with the level of compete from this team. But defensively, the team seems to limit the shots on goals to a reasonable limit as Peter mentioned. So up to a certain point, they have done their job abiding by the Clouston system. My argument is that the goaltending is not. As a goaltender you need to make a big save some of the time to bail out the errors made by the defense. That to me is a great morale booster if your goalie can do that.
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing
Only pointing out that it would be nice if the players bailed out their goalie some of the time, like they did with Lehner. But I’d like to see someone claim the goalies have held up their end of the bargain with a straight face.
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Yeah pretty sad...
that we are still talking about goaltending…Please pan out Lehner. I just want to know how it feels to have a decent goaltender for once!
One problem is that the players know that in order to overturn a 1-0 lead that they’ll have to open up and probably give up more chances. They probably don’t have confidence that they can do so without giving up more goals.
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They probably don't
But they’re giving up goals anyway, so what’s there to lose?
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