Where have all the draft picks gone? Ottawa has five selections for 2010
by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 17, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
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PrintAs I was consulting the never-ending source of information that is Wikipedia in order to find out where the Senators would be drafting through the 2010 NHL Entry Draft, I noticed something: The Senators only have five selections this year. It represents the second-fewest picks the franchise has ever had heading into an entry draft, one more than the four they had in 2006 and four fewer than the nine selections they made in 2009.
Over the course of the last year, the Senators have traded away four picks they'd acquired for this upcoming draft, meaning that of nine draft picks (eight, technically) the Senators could have had, only five remain. So what happened to that newfound devotion to building through the draft?
Quite frankly, it's taken a back seat to more immediate concerns.
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Picks the Senators have:
- First round (16 overall)
- Third round (76 overall)
- Fourth round (106 overall)
- Sixth round (178 overall, from San Jose via Dallas)
- Seventh round (196 overall)
Picks the Senators had, but traded:
- Second round (46 overall): Traded to the Carolina Huricanes in exchange for F Matt Cullen.
People will be upset with this deal. The last two seasons, the Senators have been guarding their draft picks hugely, rebuilding the franchise while trying to stay competitive. But when Cullen was acquired, the Senators were right in the mix for the Northeast Division crown, and looked very capable of making a splash in a wide-open Eastern Conference. It was a deal for the short-term that didn't help get Ottawa out of the Eastern Conference Quarter-Finals, but was worth the cost, in my opinion. - Second round (58 overall, originally from San Jose): Traded to the New York Islanders for D Andy Sutton.
See above, basically. The only difference between Sutton and Cullen is likely that we needed Sutton's services more desperately; our defence was green before Sutton came in, and he helped stabilize it to some extent. - Fifth round (136 overall): Traded to the San Jose Sharks as a component of the Dany Heatley trade.
Brutal. I still shake my head at the thought that a draft choice, even just a fifth-rounder, had to go to San Jose as a part of this deal. Unreal. - Sixth round (166 overall): Traded to the Edmonton Oilers for a 2009 seventh-round pick (191 overall; Michael Sdao).
Superficially, trading a sixth-round pick away to acquire a seventh-rounder seems silly, but obviously the Senators liked what they saw in Michael Sdao (who they ultimately selected with the acquired pick). The Senators had the 190 overall pick and selected Brad Peltz; my thinking is they really liked Sdao and Peltz, and didn't want to pick one over the other, so they gave up a future asset to ensure they got both. When you see a player you like, you do what you have to to get him.
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It's rough only having 5,
but Murray did what he had to do — hockey is a business, and sometimes you have to act in the best interest of the business holder. A playoff run would’ve meant a lot to rebuilding the fanbase and turning a profit.
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Fine with Five
The two lower round picks don’t really bother me, and the two second roounders were deals Murray had to make to keep his job. Does that make them good deals? No, but any other GM would have made them in Murray’s position. This draft is two rounds deep I would say. Outside of the top 60 guys there aren’t any diamonds in the rough. There very rarely are guys who are seventh round selections and make the NHL anymore. There’s too much scouting for that (goalies excepted), and what’s the difference between an undrafted free agent and a 5th round selection? Coaching. Most players have pretty much the same skill level (outside of the top 60 of course) , their career depends on how they are developed. Anyways, I’m positive Murray will be making some trades at the draft to bring in picks, Volchenkov and Kuba seem to be the most likely candidates. Both of those guys should yield at least a second round pick. I think the addition of Butler also gave Murray a bit of confidence in trading his second 2nd round pick. I’m sure he feels he got a second round caliber player in Butler. All in all, I would say that Murray has done a decent job with his draft pick management, let’s just hope he doesn’t draft another Jim O’Brien.
Yeah, the second rounds are killers
But I love what Sutton and Cullen brought to the team, even if Sutton lost us the series with his wake-up hit on Leopold. I’m no expert, but I think it was worth it.
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I guess they didn't like what they saw in the Finals
And I guess Marty Turco needs to find another place to call home then.
by Alexander Calloway on Jun 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Unreal!
Call me crazy, but I think Price could end up being the better goaltender. I just don’t think he can do it in Montreal; they’re already overly critical of him, and the second he makes a mistake they’ll tear him to shreds.
by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 17, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
Right now the trade is retarded. How do you trade the biggest reason you went deep in the playoffs… He’s only 25 too. Has a few years on him. And he’s already a fan favourite which is tough to do in Montreal.
Now if these prospects turn out to be great, then this deal will seem genius in the future.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Jun 17, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think a lot of it had to do with Halak not liking Montreal after the way they’ve dealt with him, and Montreal not being able to afford him in the future.
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Yeah I figured as much... and since I don't follow the Habs daily, I don't know if they tried hard enough to keep him...
it’s still a “wow” trade for me.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Jun 18, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently they didn't make him a contract offer
Don’t remember where I heard that, but it’s never a good sign.
by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 18, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
The Habs will again live and die by Price
Looks like another GM is going to be fired.
by Alexander Calloway on Jun 18, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling the Sens will have more by the draft
The number of picks always grows and lowers by draft day.
by Alexander Calloway on Jun 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I think so too
I have a feeling Lee, Shannon, or even some other prospects might be turned into draft picks if the offers are there.
by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 17, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope that's the case, but I'm skeptical
I mean, those guys weren’t can’t-touch assets in the run up to the playoffs last year. If teams were interested, they would have been dealt at last year’s trade deadline.
At least… that’s what I think.
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Injuries made him keep them
I think with all the injuries leading up to the trade dealine that Murray was reluctant to deal any possible roster players. Obviously no one wanted Brian Lee to play in the playoffs, but he would have had to if another d-man went down. Same thing with Shannon. If anyone else had got hurt he was next no the depth chart.
I suppose that's true
But like I said. I remain skeptical. I really hope I’m wrong.
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Here's the thing...
The value of those two second round picks will be entirely dependent on whether The Bryan gets Cullen and/or Sutton to sign. If they do (or even if it’s just Cullen, really) than I have no quibble. If they both walk, well…that’s Muckler Music right there.
Personally, and as much as it pains me to say this (and GAWD does it pain me), I think Murray should give up on signing A-Train and trade his rights for a 3 or 4 and use the space for both Cullen and Sutton.
Hey, UFA Day is still thirteen days away! Could happen!
I totally agree, Murray should trade Volchenkov for a pick. If he can’t be signed for an amount that works for the team, of course (that pretty much won’t be happening i guess, which saddens me). A late second or a decent third rounder would be great. The draft might not be very deep, but neither is the Sens system at this point. Sign Z. Michalek or Boychuck i say!
People assume he'll get us a pick; teams don't trade them for nothing
With Jay Bouwmeester, there was going to be a huge bidding war that probably would have included 10 teams, or more. With Volchenkov, I’d be surprised if three teams are making serious offers. If a team really wants him, they’ll probably be able to sign him without giving up a pick to get his rights.
I hope a team’s really high on him and offer us a conditional pick, but I’m not counting on it.
by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 18, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
On the bright side
At least we picked up Bobby Butler as a Free Agent who i think alot of people are forgetting about. If hes as good as they say he is then he should be about the value of a first or secnd round pick at the latest. Murray probably signed him knowing that come draft time he probably wouldnt have as many picks as he would like.
This is true
Both Bustler and Winchester are good players, probably the equivalent of second rounders—and less money is spent on their development, because they’ve done it all at US colleges.
by Peter Raaymakers on Jun 18, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
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