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Senators RFA Dossier: Nick Foligno

Next in our series of articles on the Ottawa Senators' free agents, we look at the team's strangely enigmatic young winger: Nick Foligno.

Nick Foligno

#71 / Left Wing / Ottawa Senators

6-0

209

Oct 31, 1987

 

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Contract status: Foligno has just finished the last year of his entry level contract.  Foligno made $785k in 2009-10.

Season review: Statistically, Foligno had a steep regression from the previous season, where he scored 17 goals and 15 assists in 81 games.  Foligno struggled through injuries this year, breaking his leg to block a shot on January 30th.  This injury occurred just when he was starting to play his best hockey of the season -- he had racked up one goal and five assists in the seven games prior.  Upon his return, he was not the same player.  He only managed one assist for the rest of the year -- and just one more assist in six playoff games -- and finished on the fourth line.   It was an ignominious end to what was supposed to be the year he established himself as a top six forward.    

Comparable players: In putting together a list of comparable players, I looked around the league at younger forwards who recently signed their second contracts, with comparable statistics in recent NHL seasons as Foligno.

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Milan Lucic

#17 / Left Wing / Boston Bruins

6-4

220

Jun 07, 1988

Cap Hit: $4.08M, three more seasons


Bear with me here.  Last season, Lucic put up 42 points (17G, 25A) in 72 games.  This year, he only managed 20 points (9G, 11A) in 50 games in a injury-filled year.  Statistically, he's as close to Foligno as I could find.  Lucic was given a three-year, $12.25M deal prior to getting injured this year.  This is the top end of what Foligno could get, but I would be very surprised to see a deal close to this one.  Boston seems to be much surer of what they have in Lucic than I believe Ottawa is in Foligno.


Steve Ott

#29 / Center / Dallas Stars

6-0

193

Aug 19, 1982

Cap Hit: $2.95M, four more seasons


Ott is older than Foligno, but has bounced between the NHL and AHL for Dallas for several years before finally blossoming into a 20-goal scorer last year.  He plays a similar type of game, and if Bryan Murray believes Foligno can develop into a similar player, we might see a contract that escalates toward this number.


Andrew Ladd

#16 / Left Wing / Chicago Blackhawks

6-2

200

Dec 12, 1985

Cap Hit: $1.55 for one more season


Ladd won a Stanley Cup with Carolina, but never truly found his groove there, especially for a player who was chosen fourth overall.  Acquired by the Blackhawks for Tuomo Ruutu, he has put up numbers similar to Foligno's the past two years.  Whether that's enough to satisfy Chicago fans is not relevant for this article, but the Hawks did extend a two year contract to Ladd in 2008 for a very reasonable cap hit.  Ladd will still be a restricted free agent at the end of that contract.

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Conclusions:
It was surprisingly more difficult to find statistically comparable players to Foligno than I thought it would be.  It's my personal belief that Foligno will emerge as a Mike Fisher-type player, but he's clearly nowhere near that player consistently yet.  I'm deeply skeptical that he'd land any contract similar to Lucic or Ott despite statistical similarities.  Foligno may be a $4M a year player someday, but for now, I think Ladd is the best possible comparison.  Anything different from a short-term "prove it" contract that leaves the Sens with RFA rights would come as a shock. 

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It’s really tough to know what we’re getting in Foligno, I totally agree with you. The problem is that whenever we see him take a step forward, it seems like he takes a step back again shortly thereafter. We haven’t seen consistent development in the NHL, and I think that’s a big reason why he’s been up and down in the AHL (at least before the 2009-10 season), and it will be a big reason why he won’t likely get a big raise on this contract.

by Peter Raaymakers on May 17, 2010 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with Peter and the O.P. Ideally, Foligno would be able to play with Fisher or Spezza (work hard along the boards, back-check, go to the net and bury his chances). Realistically, his best play in the playoffs(the most recent sample) came when he was with Z. Smith and Winchester. In the short term, he can’t expect anything better than a “3rd line” contract (~$1.5M per/yr for 1-2 yrs).

by DW19 on May 17, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so...

I have to disagree. I don’t see Foligno playing anything like Lucic or Ott, who both play tough, aggitator, grinder roles. I dont think Foligno has the size to play that type of game and he’s certainly not a goal scorer…so what is he? A 3rd or 4th liner.
 I do agree that if the Sens are going to sign him, it has to be for the “3rd line” contract DW is talking about. Knowing Murray… I dont think that will happen.

by slutzy on May 17, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re right, and Mark mentioned that he’s different than those guys—statistically, though, there were parallels. I don’t think he’s got any chance of getting a contract like theirs.

by Peter Raaymakers on May 17, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I think both Boston and Dallas are much more clear on what types of players Lucic and Ott are, and that trumps any statistics. No one is sure who Foligno is, and you don’t invest three or four million in an unknown quantity.

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by Mark Parisi on May 18, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 years

1.25 in the first, 2 million in the second.

1.625 cap hit, and hope to hell he can at least be a top 9 forward.

by GelatinousMutantCoconut on May 17, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice post

I see him getting between 1.2 and 1.5 over a 2 year contract or something, but he has not earned much more than that.

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by DarrenM on May 17, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Im with Darren

I’m thinking of making it into a t-shirt.

but seriously. I’m thinking 1.3 for him.

http://ottawasconsensus.blogspot.com/

by DaveYoung on May 17, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

1.3 would be a good sum. Hopefully they get him for 2 years, that’s enough time for him to show what he’s capable of. I’d like to see him do a little better next year though, either picking up his offensive production or developing his defensive play.

by Rat-Man on May 18, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, he had just found his game when he broke his leg

It’s disturbing that he couldn’t find it again, but he could have broken 20 goals had he stayed healthy. He’s hard to figure out.

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by Mark Parisi on May 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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