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Winning is overrated: Senators fall 6-3 to Thrashers

Well that was ugly.

The Atlanta Thrashers deserve some credit for tonight's 6-3 win over the Ottawa Senators. As easy as the Senators tried to make the game for them with turnover after turnover and gaffe after gaffe, you still have to take advantage of those opportunities and Atlanta did. That said, it was an ugly loss and a hard pill to swallow for a team that desperately needed a win. Panic button? You might want to get ready to hit it.

Here we go...

Sens Heroes: Chris Neil, Chris Kelly, Chris Campoli, Chris Phillips
It was a good night to be named Chris. Neil was buzzing around the Thrashers' net all game and was one of only three Senators to finish positive in +/- column. He probably would have had a goal as well, but Chris Kelly elected to shoot instead of pass. Yes, you read that right: Chris Kelly shot the puck. Intentionally. And he scored. Chris "Rusty" Campoli, in only his second game since coming back from injury, had 7 shots on goal. Chris Phillips scored a rare goal and had a mostly solid game.

Sens Killers: Chris Phillips, Colby Armstrong, Johan Hedberg
Unfortunately, Chris Phillips also had an assist on Colby Armstrong's first goal. Go and watch the replay. What a beautiful pass from Phillips to Armstrong to put Atlanta up 5-3. Armstrong then potted another less than five minutes later, because being a pest and already crushing the soul of every Senators fan wasn't enough. Armstrong and linemates Todd White and Jim Slater combined for 7 points and were each +3.

Hedberg was good, though he didn't need to be spectacular. He makes the list because of a diving save that sent Milan Michalek and his left leg flying into the post. Michalek was helped off the ice by teammates and didn't return.

Star-divide

Sens Zeroes: Alex Kovalev
His 8th consecutive game without a point, the only time Kovalev was noticeable was when the camera focused on him sitting on the bench. He has zero points since the Olympic break, and you have to think it was the Olympic roster snub that sparked his game, much like Mikael Samuelsson in Vancouver. The difference is that Samuelsson's improved play continued into March while Kovalev's, well, hasn't. Did you know that Kovalev had more powerplay ice time (4:53) than any other Senator? Not coincidentally, the Sens' powerplay was 0-for-4.


Bonus Round!

Sens Killer Supreme: Brian Elliott
Where to begin? Elliott allowed 6 goals on 27 shots. He let a puck go by him in the first four minutes of each period. He let Chris Phillips' gaffe become even worse when he didn't stop a very stoppable shot by Colby Armstrong. Everything that Elliott was doing right during the win streak was something he did wrong tonight. He spent the entire game nervously hugging the posts like they were his only friends (given the way the Senators were turning over pucks, they probably were). Still, when your team is playing poorly, your job as the goalie is to bail them out. Elliott didn't even come close to that tonight.


Goaltending Controversy: Welcome back, old friend. It wouldn't be Ottawa without a goaltending controversy. Cory Clouston's favourite is clearly Elliott, but Leclaire has been the better goalie since the break. Leclaire probably deserved the start tonight and definitely deserves it on Saturday in Dallas. But honestly, neither goalie has been winning games. The Senators have one win since the Olympics and only 3 of a possible 16 points. The cushion built up by the 11-game win streak is quickly deflating. Fickle fans will probably demand the return of Mike Brodeur if Leclaire can't put up a win on Saturday. And you know what? If neither Leclaire or Elliott can do the job, you might as well call up Not Martin. What's the worst that could happen?

Unexpected Statistic: The Ottawa Senators are 2-7-1 since demoting Jonathan Cheechoo to Binghamton.

Shot Map:

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Game "Highlights":


Closing Thought: Cory Clouston was wearing a pink shirt and maroon tie. He needs to switch back to the lavender shirt and tie combination that he was wearing when the team was winning. It's the little things that matter.

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He's not giving up, he's shocked that Colby Armstrong got by everyone

I tried cropping it to show more Colby and Kovalev, but I couldn’t make it look good.

by Ryan Classic on Mar 19, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, Kovalev looks like his usual self.

A slow and weak reach, barely trying, at which he thought “fuck it”, then headed towards the bench.

by superjarvo on Mar 19, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's covering the trailer

You can’t have all backcheckers converge on the puck-carrier; it’s obviously Kovalev’s job to put back-pressure on Armstrong and try and angle him to the outside, while Alfie covers the trailer to prevent the drop or cross-ice pass. The one who’s given up in that photo is, expectedly, Kovalev—although he did help drive Armstrong to his backhand on the outside. If that was a goal, it would have been a pretty weak one.

by Peter Raaymakers on Mar 19, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that's what he's doing, but it looks like he's giving up

Good thing I didn’t write the caption for that one!

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by Mark Parisi on Mar 19, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to blow it up.

Daniel Alfredsson to Minnesota for Brent Burns, Colton Gillies and a 1st round pick. Mike Fisher to Nashville for the rights to Dan Hamhuis. Alexei Kovalev to Montreal for Maxim Lapierre. Chris Phillips to Florida for Keaton Ellerby or to Washington for Karl Alzner.

by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Mar 19, 2010 3:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh and Volchenkov to Florida for Ellerby or Washington for Alzner as well.

Filip Kuba and Chris Kelly and to Phoenix for the rights to Z. Michalek and a pick.

by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Mar 19, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll have no more German defencemen on my team

I don’t care if he’s from Burnaby, he’s still got the taint

Cannot play with 'em, cannot win with 'em, cannot coach with 'em. Cant do it.

by Andrew J on Mar 19, 2010 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

... I hope you're not serious.

If Melnyk wasn’t going to blow it up based on the team’s play for the first half of last year, he’s definitely not going to blow it up now. Not to mention the fact that the trade deadline has passed, and you can be pretty sure that few of those players are available (Alzner for Phillips? Alfredsson for Burns plus? It’s outrageous to think Alfredsson would be traded, let alone traded for a very strong defence prospect [especially since we already have three], another good prospect, and a first-rounder).

Look how close we are to the playoffs. Why give up on them now, after having put so much energy into the team for the first part of the season?

by Peter Raaymakers on Mar 19, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's sarcasm, Peter

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by Mark Parisi on Mar 19, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am a bit worried abour our leadership core though.

Alfie, Phillips, Fisher, and to a lesser extent Neil and Kelly, share responsibility in this teams lack of consistency. They are the leaders in this room, and have all been in Ottawa a long time.

But since the lock-out, this team has had major bi-polar disorder: They’ll go on a run that makes them look like the leagues elite, and then they have stretches where they seem more likely to challenge for a lottery pick than a Cup.

Management and the coaching staff have to be accountable for this as well, but the team is on it’s 5th coach and 3rd General manager since Alfredsson began his tenure as captain.

I’m not making any suggestions…but I do have my doubts as to whether our current leaders are good enough to lead us to a Stanley Cup.

by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Mar 19, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

When Alfie retires, there is going to be a serious leadership vacuum. I don’t know who is going to fill it.

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by Mark Parisi on Mar 20, 2010 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can it be much worse than the leadership vacuum that's currently on display?

Cannot play with 'em, cannot win with 'em, cannot coach with 'em. Cant do it.

by Andrew J on Mar 21, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes you think

I think with a win in Dallas, Chocolate eclair with a few good stops may bring some confidence back. 39 shots on goal its not if we are not creating anything up front its just sloppyness and bad penalties.

That being said Mr Murray should be looking over his shoulder, 3rd season as GM and not a lot to show for it. With a missed playoff year, a year where the penguins easily brushed us a side and looking like another round one exit doesn’t look good on the resume.

Not going to go into the bad players he has traded for in his time, and draft picks we gave up, but he shouldn’t feel to comfortable.

by Eado on Mar 19, 2010 6:52 AM EDT reply actions  

So, how many games do you think we need to win to make playoffs?

5 or 6 out of 11? If we don`t pull ourselves out of this hole we dug, we might be golfing much earlier this year. I really want to try and have faith, but something inside of me is scared. Mommy!

by superjarvo on Mar 19, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Phillips as a HERO?

How can you put Phillips as a hero for last night’s game? The guy was a turn over machine, can’t even get the puck out of his zone without giving it away.

by Fragon on Mar 19, 2010 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I disagreed, obviously. But I put him there in part because of his offensive game. He was unusually good last night.

I also put him as a killer because, as you said, he was not so good with the turnovers. Neither were a lot of players (Alfredsson, looking at you). Phillips had an awful third period, but he did tie the game going into the second intermission, and that counts for something.

Dang Todd White was supposed to be injured.

by Ryan Classic on Mar 19, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can be killers when they assist on an opponent's goal

I might give you Elliott, but I’m standing by my Phillips murderer assessment.

by Ryan Classic on Mar 19, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

There have been other Senators that have been killers

Usually it’s something more drastic, like the power play, but I’ve given the killer label to some guys as well. I would have given a killer to both Phillips and Elliott AND I would have given a zero to Fisher – it’s badass that he’s playing through an injury but he didn’t really help the team last night.

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by Mark Parisi on Mar 19, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Brodeur time. He got them going last time around…

I agree that Murray’s time as Senators GM is looking sketchier and sketchier, though his strength is drafting so it may be a few years before most of his good work starts to show. I wish he was head of scouting and that the Sens had another GM – maybe Feaster?

The worst is that the Sens are spending every last dollar they can on salary and are still mediocre. Look at a team like Nashville. Or even the Islanders, who stink but are something like $20M under the cap and are still only a few points out of the playoffs. The Sens are spending like mad and don’t have a ton to show for it.

Having said all that, they won’t blow it up for at least another season. Murray will probably step down after next season – end of his contract, lots of talk about getting older in his extension press conference, and about $15M of salary coming off the books. Perfect time for someone new to step in and make their mark.

The first major step in that season will probably be letting Phillips go. He’s a cornerstone player for the franchise, and a major part of its identity, but it’s time to pass the torch to Karlsson, Cowen, Weircoch, et al.

I would trade Fisher if I could, but with that contract and his limited movement clauses, it would be hard to get real value back. Alfie would get a lot as a deadline trade, but I think he’s got a NMC too.

by Conrad Amenta on Mar 19, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

You don`t trade Alfie

That is just wrong. He has done so much for this team and Ottawa community. It`s like EDM trading Gretzky. Just a big no. Ya, we might get something in return for him, and I understand this is a business, but have a heart dude!

by superjarvo on Mar 19, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

We wouldn't even get a worthwhile return

Let’s try and think about this objectively, how much would you be willing to trade for a guy who’s making $5M+ and pushing 40? The value he has in this city is so much more than any one we might trade him to that there’s no way he would be dealt—although I don’t understand why we would want to, even if that weren’t the case.

by Peter Raaymakers on Mar 19, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt Phillips will go anywhere

His contract’s up after next season, and I’m pretty sure whatever he signs after that will be a pretty deeply discounted retirement contract. He’s a valuable player to have, particularly for Cowen, but also to some extent for Wiercioch and even Karlsson.

by Peter Raaymakers on Mar 19, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally I think Ottawa would prefer to see Alfie play out his career here. Everyone saw how the whole Sundin situation played out and I don’t get the idea that Alfie has the ego that Mats did. I don’t think Alfie’s the type looking for a big last contract, he’s a Senator through and through and would be willing to play for less for the Sens as his production diminishes. As it is the Sens only owe Alfie 5.5 mil over the next 2 years as his contract was front loaded.

And looking at Alfie’s numbers this year they aren’t that bad. He’s just a shade under a point a game. Sure he’s on the downward end of his career, but with a couple more respectable seasons he could easily put himself in HOF territory, a Senators Hall of Famer. I don’t think you can diminish the impact of that to the Senators. I think he’d probably get special consideration as a lifer on one of the 90’s expansion teams. For a team that has long looked for respect, keeping Alfie for his whole career should be a priority.

by modsuperstar on Mar 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love alfie and would never suggest trading him….and maybe its just old age thats gradually catching up with him….but he is playing badly. And as the old addage says “as alfie goes, so do the sens”.

by alfie4PM on Mar 19, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Looking ahead?

How many of you realistically thought the Sens would be in the playoffs this year? I certainly didn’t. I fully expected a rebuilding year…. and thought the same for next year. So in my opinion, getting in would be a solid accomplishment. I actually agree that in 2011-2012 it will be quite a different team.

Next year will be Spezza’s test. You can write this year off because of injuries, maybe no Heatley. Same with Leclaire. Alfredsson is getting older, but obviously still the heart of the team. Can’t trade him; they have retire his jersey at some point. Cheechoo will be bought out. Kelly is too expensive for what he brings. Same with Fisher. I might try and move him. Kovalev would be a good pickup for a Stanley Cup contender at the deadline next year. Ruutu, Shannon and Donovan will also probably be gone. On defence, there will be a changing of the guard as well with Cowen, Karlsson, Weinroch. At least we have some prospects there. There isn’t that much hope for the forwards… man, I wish Murray had landed Bozak.

by Sens Fan In NYC on Mar 19, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

The problem with the Sens starts at the top

You have to wonder what Melnyk’s goal is with this team and how many mistakes of Murrays he has to pay for. Between coaches and players, how much above and beyond in salaries has Melnyk had to pay for, I mean it is stagering to think of how much money is wasted due to mistakes in evaluating talent. I wonder if Melnyk is getting a great tax break with the money he is losing on the team. Or maybe they are making buckets of money and he can afford it (doubt it).Melnyk extended Murray’s contract near the end of the win streak and I think he should have waited until the end of the year to make a decision like that. We have 20 million tied up in Kovalev, Spezza and Alfie so we are going to get the same thing next year. As I posted on another site, I think that Spezza should be traded for some picks and prospects, Kovalev should be traded for as much as we can get. Alfie should just retire and move upstairs. We need fisher and what he brings, it’s just a shame about the money. Ruutu and Neil stay as does Carkner. Kuba has a NTC so we are stuck unless he waives. Kelly can stay or go, there are benefits to both views. Time to play our young guys and live with what we get for a couple of years. That means the likes of Z. Smith, D. Smith, Karlsson, Cowan, Weircioch etc. all play if they struggle then have the organizational balls to stick with it and work with them. That is one of the reason that Clouston was brought up was what he was able to do with the young guys, so let him groom our youth. If we are going to suck then lets do it with a purpose.

by SENSGUY1 on Mar 19, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think this team is in a position to bottom out quite yet. This was a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year and really wasn’t expected by many to compete this year given the whole Heatley fiasco. The biggest organizational issue is the inability to groom a franchise goaltender. Since they’ve never been able to do that, and they’ve long put their money into scoring talent, they’re left taking chances in hopes that a second or third tier goalie talent is going to flourish. Gutting the team without addressing the need for goaltending just leaves us in the same spot. Since Lehner is probably 2-3 years away(at least).

I’m not quite willing to write them off this season just yet. Remember Ottawa wasn’t really the hottest team going when they went to the Cup finals either.

by modsuperstar on Mar 19, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Goodluck moving Spezza at 7 mill a season through 2015. The Sens would have to pickup a somewhat substantial amount of contracts in return for whoever took him. On top of that he has a no trade clause, as does Alfredson and I can’t see him retiring until his contract runs out. I can see Kovalev being gone by next year’s deadline but by then the $$ saving will be irrelevant and based on past play how much do you really expect to get for him.

by badomen on Mar 19, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

What no Sutton mention?

Sutton’s attempt to cheap shot former teammate Eric Boulton totally wound up the Atlanta team in the 3rd period. That pissed them off and they played much better after that. I’m surprised he didn’t make your goat list.

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by The Falconer on Mar 19, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy Fella

Watch the hit and watch Suttons arm and shoulders with regard to where they make contact with Boulton. I understand being a homer but watch the hit again and realize that it was a perfectly clean hit. As they say “you can’t teach big” and that is what Sutton is and the refs over reacted plain and simple.

by SENSGUY1 on Mar 19, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boulton was upset because he got caught in the trolley tracks and was all wobbly and woozy after the hit and if I must say a little embarrassed. The refs are on pins and needles with regards to hits and made a bad call.

by SENSGUY1 on Mar 19, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Antropov didn't make it, either

I decided not to put them down because Colby Armstrong was so much more infuriating and as bad as Sutton’s first period failure on Artyukhin was, Phillips’ beauty of a pass was worse. I wanted to give the entire Armstrong-White-Slater line more credit, too. Coming into the game with a combined 58 points and notching 7? Impressive.

You can’t cover everyone, though. General consensus is that the Sutton hit/penalty that led to the second Antropov goal was a bad call.

by Ryan Classic on Mar 19, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Cheap shot"?!!!

Did you watch the game Falconer? That was as clean a hit as you can make in the NHL. That’s two bizzar penalty’s in two games for Sutton for good clean hits. Something is rotten in the state of NHL officiating…

by Oman on Mar 19, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I watched Sutton play for years in Atlanta

…and I’ve seen him deliver numerous questionable hits. If it was such a clean hit why was Boulton trying to fight him the rest of the game? Eric has taken 1,000 clean hits in his NHL career. He doesn’t need to fight after a clean hit. Sutton came in from the side where Boulton wouldn’t see him. I had a terrific view of it in the stands and I knew immediately that this was going to stir things up. Sutton’s play ticked off the Thrashers and they played much better after that, so again, my thanks to him.

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by The Falconer on Mar 19, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Better answer:

The NHL now has a culture that considers any big hit something that’s worthy of retaliation. Guys will get rocked and chase down someone and throw a punch just because they didn’t like getting hit so hard. Hit Crosby hard and his team will jump you even if it’s a clean shot.

That said, I wasn’t crazy about Sutton’s decision making skills in this game. Still, I’d rather have him deliever a big hit than not; for better or worse, that’s his role on the team.

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by Mark Parisi on Mar 19, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it was a dirty hit

I mean, sure, he’s on my team, maybe I’m biased, but I did see Alfredsson’s hit against Beauchemin on Toronto as dirty—and he’s my favourite player. Boulton didn’t see Sutton, sure, but it’s not because Sutton blindsided him. I don’t know what you want to call on that hit… I don’t see what rule it violates. I understand hits can be legal but dirty, but I think this one was neither illegal nor dirty.

by Peter Raaymakers on Mar 19, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Dirty.

Boulton was mad because it made him look weak. I have seen that sort of reaction many times by guys who think they are tough. If they are made to look weak, they want to fight to quickly repair their fragile egos. I don’t know Boulton, but the bit that I have seen of him leads me to deduce that a large part of his self esteem is tied up with being a “tough guy”.

by Oman on Mar 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

But seriously

When will Carvel get the axe? Is he not in charge of the abysmal power play?

by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Mar 19, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been looking at the year-by-year review of the Sens since they entered the NHL back in 1992. You have to notice how suddenly in 1996 they made a complete turn around once Jacques Martin and Pierre Gauthier arrived on the scene. The team has not been the same since they left.

Take a look at the job Jacques Martin and Pierre Gauthier are doing in Montreal now that they are in charge of the Canadians.

SamK

by samk1101 on Mar 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

What did they win?

I’m not going to downplay the good they did while they were here, there were some great seasons. But the reason they were fired was their inability—whether real or perceived—to get us over the hump.

by Peter Raaymakers on Mar 20, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gauthier hasn't been in long enough to have an effect.

Other than the “Shit, new GM, better smarten up if I want to stay” mentality.

by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Mar 20, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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