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What to do with Chris Phillips?

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Chris Phillips is in the final season of a four-year deal paying him $3.5M a year, and he has a no-trade clause. He's almost 33 years old, and has played his entire career with Ottawa. He's an affordable, and still relatively young, shut down specialist, one who seems ripe for an affordable contract renewal that will take him to retirement.

Except that the Senators' one area of prospect depth also happens to be on the backend, with Erik Karlsson, Jared Cowen, Patrick Weircoch, and David Rundblad ready to join Sergei Gonchar in the next couple of seasons. There are also many serviceable if unspectacular depth defensemen in Matt Carkner, Chris Campoli, David Hale, Eric Gryba, and even Brian Lee, who is about to go on a tear, I can feel it.

Phillips is in the midst of a horrible season: as of December 13th, he has 3 assists and is a minus 13 in 31 games, though this might be partly attributed to his long-time defensive partner Anton Volchenkov having departed in the offseason for the New Jersey Titanics. Phillips may also have been asked to play outside of his comfort zone as Clouston juggles lines in attempts to establish chemistry. But in all, his occasionally solid shut-down skills have been offset by brain farts and giveaways. He's looked slow, and out of synch with his team.

In all honesty, the guy obviously loves the city and has roots here. Since being selected first overall by Ottawa in 1996, Phillips is one of few players--along with Daniel Alfredsson and Mike Fisher--to have played his entire career in Ottawa. His charity work also shouldn't be overlooked, nor should the legitimacy and credibility a franchise earns when they hang the number of a career player in their rafters. Phillips means a lot to this community, and that's not the sort of thing you give away for a draft pick. Or do you? Are winners not those who can assess their team with unsentimental logic?

 

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It may depend on the market for Phillips at the trade deadline. Keep in mind that while Phillips is a 1-2 pairing defenseman on Ottawa, a contending team with depth might truly appreciate him in that 3-4 role. A team like Washington, who had trouble outmuscling Montreal (of all teams) last year, might want a veteran shutdown player, and be willing to pay a premium for him in a year when they clearly want to go all the way. (Though their recent trade for Hannan supposedly filled that role.) And Phillips' salary is respectable, and with only a quarter of the season remaining will only need to be paid out $850,000.

The market at last year's deadline for anyone less than an elite player seemed to be a 2nd rounder. Andy Sutton may not be a comparable to Phillips, but could represent where the bidding begins, and so you may imagine a contending team might be willing to give up a late first rounder for him.

Is there a way that Ottawa can have their cake and eat it too? Would trading Phillips necessarily close the door on his having a future in Ottawa, whether it be re-signing here or accepting a job in the front office? And if he was re-signed, what would be a fair deal? Phillips is by no means nearing the end of this career.

The ideal for a season that is increasingly looking lost may be to trade him at the deadline for at least a second rounder and then re-sign him in the offseason to a deal that takes him to, say, 38 and pays him a cap hit of $2M a year (Say, $3.5M, $2.5M, $1M and $1M ). As a 3-4 pairing D, asked to play less minutes, Phillips will continue to provide a veteran presence and mentor our young shutdown prospect, Jared Cowen.

Alternatively, if Phillips is willing to re-sign in Ottawa for fewer years, and there isn't a risk of his signing elsewhere, the team should consider paying him a higher cap hit--say, $3M a year for two years--if it means being able to trade him again in the future for yet another prospect or pick.

What do you think? Is Phillips in a prime position for a trade, or does this team not mess with his solid history with the club? If Zdeno Chara, Wade Redden, and now Anton Volchenkov have all been allowed to walk for nothing in return, should this team not try and get something for one of their homegrown defensive prospects?

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What should the Ottawa Senators do with Chris Phillips?
Re-sign him to a "retirement contract"--4 or 5 more years
114 votes
Re-sign him for a couple more years
93 votes
Trade him at the deadline
143 votes
Let him walk for nothing
13 votes

363 votes | Poll has closed

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Management needs to talk to Phillips and let him decide what he would like. They should put their chips on the table say that they will offer him a 2-3 year contract @ 1$ million/year. We repay him by letting him make the choice. The important part of this is to not do like Toronto did with Sundin. That conversation and decision stays between participants.

by Bikini Cowboy on Dec 14, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with those numbers.

$1 M /year since his role is being diminished by himself.

by AAZZ on Dec 14, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I think basically what you can offer Big Rig, is a small contract and a diminished role. However, that being said, unless BM decides to make some free agent defensive signings in the off season, despite our many prospects in the system, its unlikely that they will be ready to take on a significant job by next year.

by alfie4PM on Dec 14, 2010 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

I did!

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven't completely given up on the playoffs yet

If we are out of the playoffs, I am okay with trading him in the following cases:

- we get an expiring contract back
- we get only a draft pick or much cheaper contract, I don’t want to lose cap room

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Give him a retirement contract

Something with a small cap hit so that he can eventually retire and work with the organization in an administrative role. As a new franchise, you want to show players that if they come here, they will be respected and treated well. Same reason why you don’t trade Alfie or Fisher.

by The Tif on Dec 14, 2010 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with not trading Alfie

But you can totally get rid of Fisher or Phillips. They are not in the same league.

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

If we are still in the playoff race at the deadline

Then we let him walk, if we are 12 points back, then trade him.

However, if he wants to play on the bottom pairing, or 2nd pair and around 14-15 minutes a night, I am okay with giving him $1.5/year for 2 years, but nothing crazy like 4-5 years.

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

I think we're undervaluing him pretty heavily here

Even $2M for 5 years would likely be well below market value, based on what we saw defencemen being signed for last season. If we can sign him to a contract like that, it would be a huge hometown discount.

by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 14, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know man

He brings no offence to the table, and he isn’t even solid defensively any more. Although he is getting better now, if he plays like he did last couple of games, THEN I am okay with 1.5 million or 2 million for a couple years, but not 5 years under any circumstance in my opinion.

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Regarde Redden

He was a 6 millions player and signed the same amount in NYR. Then a couple of years later he is out of the NHL, likely never to come back. I think Redden would prefer a garanteed 2-3 years @ 1 millions and play in the NHL. Now is not the time for Phillips to expect large sums of money. He does not seem like a corner stone of the franchise anymore. Plus if we sign him now, he is under the 35 years old rule, so any contract would mean that his retirement he doesn’t count against the cap.

by Bikini Cowboy on Dec 14, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

If Redden wants to come back, he can

I read an article saying how next year, when he is sent to the AHL, he can refuse to show up, and the Rangers can then have his contract voided and make him a free agent. Of course he would make a lot less than $6.5 million, but if he wants to he can.

I am sure someone in the NHL will pay him a million or two.

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

There is one player that you start your legacy with, and that’s Alfie. Why would we hang Phillips or Fisher’s jersey up? Because they are good guys? That doesn’t fly. Redden did more charity work than Phillips and was a much better defenceman on the whole — we hanging his J up? Everybody has a favourite player, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be traded — and it’s not like we are talking about perenial Norris/Art Ross/Richard/Hart trophy candidates…when’s the last time a roster player while on the Sens not named Alfie or Spez made an NHL First or Second team? Or even made the all-star game?

I support the team and always will, but I don’t support these players just because they have been here forever — perhaps that’s the issue; they have just been here too long.

Rebuilds are a must, and every team in the NHL goes through it at one point — think Detroit won’ t have issues when Lidstrom hangs them up? Think NJD won’t be in trouble without Brodeur?

If the team is honestly trying to win a cup for Alfie, look three/four years down the road at his last year rather than his current year because it ain’t happening if Alfie is leading Michaluk, Kovalev, Regin, Neil, Ruutu, Fisher, Phillips, Neil, Kuba, Campoli, etc.

by Ryanocerus on Dec 14, 2010 10:41 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I don't see Phillips as a jersey-retirement sweater

He’s been a serviceable defender whose reputation in Ottawa is only good because he’s been here for so long and is well-liked. He’s not an elite player by any means, though.

Still, if it’s possible and reasonable to keep him within the organization for his entire career, it’s worth pursuing.

by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 14, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget his pride

Never underestimate a players ego when talking about a diminished role or minutes. This is a guy that has played major minutes and still does for his entire career. He might not accept a diminished role and demand a trade and a shot at free agency. He has been good here because he is a very good role model and has lived a quiet and ideal life. Can’t say that about many athletes, although hockey players are usually cleaner than other sports. He’s the player he was but having said that he is not that bad either. It’s a very difficult situation and would not want to be Brian Murray.

by Hockey Playoff Run SensFan on Dec 14, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

He won't demand a trade a few months from free agency

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

We have to try and get value while he still has any

He’s lost more than a step. Move him at the deadline for a pick or prospect, or package him with a pick to get a solid forward prospect/higher pick. The worst case scenario would be a panic move at the deadline and signing him to Kuba-esque deal. His rep/experience/expiring deal should be enticing to more than a few teams out there.

Same goes for Ruutu, Kovalev, or just about anyone with an expiring contract. Straight up, this team is going nowhere this year. I don’t feel like watching us get waxed as an 8-seed either.

If we can’t move him, someone in the organization might have to man up and do the humane thing….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZmveLXPTE

/commenting cherry: popped. really enjoy the site.

by Gorilla Scrilla on Dec 14, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

I would personally LOVE to see us get waxed as an 8 seed :/

Playoffs damn it!

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a long bus ride home from Kanata after a playoff loss.

by Varada on Dec 15, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It is... that's true.

And I went to my first playoff game and we lost it, game 4 last playoffs.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 16, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I have only been to two playoff games

And we lost both. Both of them were against the Pens in 2008, so I got to see us swept. :/

Come to think of it, we’ve lost 6 home playoff games in a row, the last 5 to Pittsburgh.

No wonder I really hate the Pens and Crosby. :(

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 16, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been to a bunch

Not sure how many, but a few here and there. The highlight was game three of the Stanley Cup Finals, the one game we won. Lowlight was game seven of the 2004 Eastern Conference Quarter-Finals, which we lost uglily.

by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 16, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in Ottawa for the finals

It was the 1st of my two co-op terms in Ottawa. I couldn’t get tickets for the finals, as hard as I tried. Well I could, but I think it was about $1000 and I was making $17 or $18/hour at the time.

But still that was an incredible time, I remember walking down a suburban road in Barrhaven (Woodroffe maybe…not sure) in my Alfie jersey after his OT goal against Buffalo. I’ve never seen that city happier!

Ah…memories… :(

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 16, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That was awesome

I watched the double OT winner outside Scotiabank Place, I think. It was epic… so many people there.

by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 16, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if there is a market for him, and someone is willing to give us a first, you have to trade him

Yes, Cowen and Rundblad might not be fully ready next year, but maybe its time to recognize we are going to have a couple rough seasons, and it’ll be time to play the youth. It has worked in other places, and even though youth brings inconsistency, it brings hope.

I’m worried about this franchise. I think we need a bit of a rebuild and the cap room coming, and expiring management/coaching contracts combined with a poor season thus far points to now being the perfect time. But with (many) sens fans ALREADY not showing up to games, I worry what it will be like should we rebuild. And I think our only hope is to come out, admit it, and play the youth, and hope fans go for the hope factor.

http://ottawasconsensus.blogspot.com/

by DaveYoung on Dec 14, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

If someone gives us a first rounder for Chris Phillips...

I’d grab it and run and send them chocolate on the way back. And no cheaping out, we’ll send them the good chocolate.

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahahaha Adnan!

I agree with both of you about trading him if we get a late first rounder as Varada suggested.

With all the expiring contracts, we are at an ideal season to rebuild without going on a huge fire sale, or anything drastic like that.

I haven’t lost hope for making the playoffs, so we could be in a win-win situation. Making the playoffs, which will keep the Sens fans entertained and then have a huge offseason, which will make the fans comeback at least out of curiosity.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 14, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah firesales are depressing

Not that I would be too bummed if Phillips, Fisher, etc. are all dumped midseason, but I can’t help but wonder what effect it will have on Karlsson and next year’s rookies to be on a last place team for a year or two.

I like a two fronted rebuilding, through a big free agent signing complimented with young players. Having all this cap space makes it doable.

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly...

Which is why I said this is the ideal time for such a rebuild. It’s very doable. We have a few decent contracts ending and we can pair a couple of players up for some trading.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

only hitch is...

shitty free agent class

http://ottawasconsensus.blogspot.com/

by DaveYoung on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right, options are a bit limited

Yeah we make a big push for Semin, if that fails, I would pass on Richards but maybe try and get Vokoun for a couple years. If that fails, than we can try making a deal for Parise since we have cap room as the Devils know that no one will want to give up four 1st rounders for him, so might be a hold out.

If that fails, I’d just save the cap room for mid season next year for a possible trade or until something worthwhile happens. Don’t spend it for the hell of it, but keep your options open.

Sens fan in Toronto since 2000. (Thank you Martin Havlat).

by Adnan on Dec 14, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Of those guy...

I really dont feel Semin is the answer to our prayers. He’s a wonderfully talented player, but I wonder how he would do in a Non-Washington situation. He has it all there. Incredible talent around him, a chance to play second line minutes (against weaker defence) or a chance to play with Backstrom and Ovie, two of the top ten players in the game.

Richards is still a wonderful player, and I would love to have him. But we already have 2 centres that we pay over 4 million dollars, so it doesnt make much sense. Especially because he wants to play in Dallas, and teams like Toronto will pay out the ass for him.

Vokoun is an interesting idea, but only if we can get him on a 1 or 2 year deal. And to be honest, will he want to go from one rebuild (in FLA) to another one here? Or would he rather sign cheap in Washington or Chicago.

Lastly, Parise is my favourite option. His ability to create offense and to bring people out of their seats is incredible. He may be the most underrated player in the league. However, he’s RFA, and so unless we want to sign him to an offer sheet (and give up a FIRST, SECOND and THIRD rounders), it’ll be unlikely.

http://ottawasconsensus.blogspot.com/

by DaveYoung on Dec 14, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The only selling point for the organization right now is “come watch the greatest player in Sens history.” They’re not a winner, let alone a contender. There’s no youth movement to drum up interest. With the exception of 3-5 guys, everyone has peaked or is on the downslope. I think if the team could communicate a vision for this organization going forward then you might see fans get behind it a bit more or at least I don’t think attendance would get worse. Things just look pretty damn bleak right now.

by Gorilla Scrilla on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ask him what he wants, then do it, barring a fantastic offer

If he wants to stay long-term and cheap with a diminished role, do it. If he wants to go to free agency, trade him at the deadline for anything of value.

by TheGuineaPig on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

exactement

My point exactly. The most important part is to keep everything private. No outside pressure like Sundin in Toronto or the summer of Spezza with "if you want to trade me, then trade me". i do not begrudge Spezza for that comment but Murray should have never said it publicly.

by Bikini Cowboy on Dec 14, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

We need Phillips' cap space for offence

The problem with this team is that we are not producing nearly enough offence. Since our only strength right now is defensive depth, where else are we going to find the cap space to shore up the offence in the top six? Surely at least two out of Rundblad, Cowen, Gryba and Wiercoch are ready next year.

So in order to solve the other big issue at the same time which is that we are powder puff physically outside of Neil and Carkner, it’s time to make room for two new dmen. Rundblad, Cowen, Gryba and Wiercoch are all more physical than Phillips as well as being better offensively. I don’t see where else we will find the cap space.

If you think Phillips will sign for $1 million a year, you are living in a dreamworld.

Leclaire’s cap space will be replaced by another goalie. Kovalev only frees up $5 million. If we want to keep Alfy, there is no other place to go than trading Phillips for draft picks at the deadline. There will be lots of takers. We waited too get rid of Redden and look what happened. Will we make the same mistake with Phillips?

by Marvellous on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

Serieusement?

You are worried about cap space?
First, we have 14 players signed for next year. We need another 7-9 players for a full roster. that gives the Sens about 17.5 millions to play with. If you keep Rundblad and Cowen, they cost about 3 millions combined. That leave the Senators 14.5 millions to fill 3 forwards and 2 goalies.
Second, if you trade or keep none of the UFAs with no rookies coming up, then at worst we need an average of 9 players @ 2 millions each.
Third, The cap will be going up next year. The league has already said it thru the media. That would just be extra money.
Four, the UFA defensemen are very shallow: Jovanovski, McCabe, Markov (career possibly over) or Kaberle. This is what you are saving money for? I agree that some cap space would be nice, but if you have a chance to spend that money and get a good player go ahead.
Five, you give Phillips the choice. If like Volchenkov he thinks that someone will pay him over 3 millions then good for him, but that will not be the Sens. He was a 3 millions player but he is not that player anymore. Anybody paying him more then 2 millions will regret it.

by Bikini Cowboy on Dec 14, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I like phillips, and I like fisher….they are good guys who have always put their heart into this team. However, I like the sens more than I like them and I dont want us to be a losing team for the sole purpose of keeping those guys happy…..the only untouchable on this team is alfie, he’s earned it.

by alfie4PM on Dec 14, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'd love to see the team get something for Phillips at the deadline

But plain and simple I don’t think Murray has that in him. I think he’ll just roll over and offer Phillips whatever he wants. He’s just too in love with his own free agents, or maybe just scared of the relative unknown.

Either way, I hope I’m wrong.

Cannot play with 'em, cannot win with 'em, cannot coach with 'em. Cant do it.

by Andrew J on Dec 14, 2010 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

are you guys all crazy??

if phillips agrees to sign with us at 2m/yr on a 4y contract with the knowledge that his roll WILL reduce soon, then why in the shit hell not??? think about who else we have at 2m/y… CHRIS NEIL, CHRIS KELLY, KUBA @ 3.7?! jeebus. 2mil is a GREAT deal for chris phillips. unfortunately we’re stuck with sergei’s 5.5 as nobody will take that off our hands, but despite phillips’ bad year thus far (and i’ve hate on the man as much or more than all ya’ll) at 2m a season he’s MORE than worth it. at 32 years old, he’s still got a good 4 more years left in him. mind you at the end of that term he’ll be the third pairing man.. but i think the main point here is that he’s not first pairing pedigree.. he’s not up to the task of locking down top lines. well at 2m a year, i don’t think he’s supposed to. think of all the best shut down d men in the league.. anybody better than phillips will EASILY be getting 3-4m/y.

we can’t seriously just plug in all of our young guns an suddenly assume that it’s a good idea. why would you do that? no you have vets around to mentor the youngens and show them what’s up. what better mentor than chris phillips? his KNOWLEDGE of what he’s SUPPOSED to do is no doubt excellent, and though he may not be able to execute as well as he once did, he would definitely be a huge asset for someone like jared cowen. he played with chara. he played with volchencov. hell he was a huge asset too. besides, what if the kids suck? if we get rid of phillips for something short of ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY, who will do as good of a job in his stead at 2m or less? i agree heavily with peter that you guys are seriously undervaluing him. i have a good mind to think that he could get 4mil on the market still. and if he gets the offer, he absolutely should. but if he agrees to stay here for 4 more years at 2m a piece and we don’t take it? absolute idiocy. in 3 years, we could have something like:
karlsson-cowen (1st pairing)
rundblad- x (2nd pairing) x = GET SHEA WEBERRRRR!!!! or maybe if weircoch works..
phillips- x (3rd pairing) x = carkner or whoever (i’m always pulling for carkner..)

that’s a stud defensive line. phillips at 35 vs 3rd and 4th lines would be great, or at least i think so.

by Caden on Dec 14, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

You raise a valid point.

Phillips is a solid rearguard. He’s not a leader on the ice, but in the lockerroom he is. And you can’t underestimate that presence – with a lot of young guys coming up he’ll be essential in their development. A stay at home defenceman who can bring out the best in the defensive defencemen while Gonchar mentors our PMD would be a great combo.

by The Tif on Dec 14, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right, as a vet with solid skills, he’ll garner $2M, easy. Which is why I think a deal paying him an average of that amount with front loading is probably appropriate. And I think that’s probably what will happen, given his history with the club. All part of Murray’s privileging of history over, y’know, winning.

I would absolutely love to get Shea Weber, but I don’t know what you’d have to give up to get him. Whatever it is, Ottawa doesn’t have it. Maybe the Kessel deal…two 1sts and a 2nd?

by Varada on Dec 15, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with your suggestion for Phillips.

Ultimately I would love to keep him on for cheaper and with a diminishing role over the years. But if he doesn’t accept that, then I wouldn’t want Murray to cave to what Phillips wants, I would trade him.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Dec 16, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Front-loading Phillips' contract makes huge sense

Given that it will not be a 35+ contract, you have the luxury of buying out the latter years if Phillips is not performing adequately and you’ll get a discounted cap hit, rather than the full amount. Same with if he retires with a year or years left; the contract won’t count against the cap.

by Peter Raaymakers on Dec 16, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Poll results got interesting...

Last I checked the poll was when it had about 60 votes, and about 70% of the votes where in the top two categories. In other words, the vast majority of people were saying to sign him. A couple days later, there’s almost 500 votes, and there’s been a huge upswing in “Trade him” votes. Noting, of course, that a loss happened in between the two times I checked. What’s surprising is that the most moderate option is to sign him to a short term deal, and that’s become less popular.

by Varada on Dec 15, 2010 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

Uhhh, not almost 500 votes. Not sure how i read that.

by Varada on Dec 15, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

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