The Morning After: Heatley Out, Michalek/Cheechoo In
You've probably already read Peter's initial reaction to the trade, and if not, then do so. Having had the day to think it over, here's what I'll say:
The Sharks "won" the trade, in that they got the best player out of it, and have created a top-line that is going to absolutely dominate next season. Though the Senators didn't get a fantastic return on Heatley, it could have been a lot worse: they could've ended up with Dustin Penner. (Yes, I think that this deal is better than the nixed Edmonton deal)
Now, let's not lie to ourselves - the Sens lost a very, very, very good scorer in Dany Heatley. In 2008-09, Heatley scored more goals than Milan Michalek and Jonathan Cheechoo combined.
That being said, however, there are many positives that come from this. First of all, the team has spread out the cap space among the forwards, which is extremely important in order to be flexible under the cap in the next few years. Though Cheechoo's $3M cap hit is far higher than he deserves, it's only there for two seasons, a much shorter length of time than Dany Heatley's - or Dustin Penner's, for that matter. Speaking of Cheechoo, the man's hometown of Moose Factory must be thrilled to have their favourite son back in his home province. Unfortunately, all the road-trips in the world won't save the Senators' current ticket sales woes: even if every single person in Moose Factory came to the same Ottawa Senators game, they would only fill up approximately an eighth of Scotiabank Place. There's also that second round pick that might, you know, devastate the Leafs' squad in a rookie tournament next year.
Another positive is that the Sens find themselves with a deeper pool of forward talent, which should help the team avoid the label of being a one-line team. Michalek and Cheechoo join the likes of Jason Spezza, Daniel Alfredsson, Alex Kovalev, Mike Fisher, and Nick Foligno, six of whom should fill out the team's top-six forwards. In fact, TSN's Scott Cullen seems to think that our forward lines might even be better after this deal.
Finally, there's also the things that stats ignore. Though Dany Heatley is a great scorer, he was a frequently lazy one-dimensional player that would have been a huge distraction for the club. Michalek brings with him a very strong two-way game, Cheechoo has a well-documented work ethic, and neither of them are going to damage the locker room in the ways that Heatley likely would have.
Sometimes trades go down to shake up a roster, or add to an area where your team is lacking. Other times, trades go down simply because the team is forced into it. This is a case of the latter, and considering the Senators had no choice but to trade Dany, they could have done worse. I'm not satisfied with the return, but I don't think I ever would have been.
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The day after
Good piece Darren, I agree that we have more depth though I think Murray sticking to his guns could have got us a little bit more quality in the early part of the season.
Disappointed we didn’t get a true 2nd line center out of the Heatley Saga!
Oh hum….on a positive note I still think we are playoff team and looking forward to some shared scoring across the lines.
by Eado on Sep 13, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Disappointed we didn’t get a true 2nd line center out of the Heatley Saga!
Agreed. I would have strongly preferred Pavelski to Cheechoo, but Murray was never negotiating from a position of strength here. This is a deal I can live with; Clouston’s system will have to do the rest.
by Mark Parisi on Sep 13, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If pavelski came, i would be totally satisfied with the trade.
That might be a little to much to ask for. Maybe not. But really, Murray is the general manager of a national hockey league team, he’s not stupid. I’m sure he brought up pavelski’s name in the conversation, but wasn’t able to make that happen with Wilson.
Well, here i am, thinking more needs to be done.
I think it’s important to aquire a second line center, obviously. If we could trade Kelly, (i’m serious about this, i wouldn’t subject a Binghamton alumni to a trade unless it needed to happen) Picard, Ruutu, (not a big fan of his work last year) and Schubert, maybe if he can’t play bottom line minutes (on the point where he belongs), we could aquire a second line center, and some solid d-men to strengthen our d-core ( i don’t know why, but when i look at our defence, it looks a little sketchy to me). This way, a young player ( Smith or Zubov) would get a chance to contibute on the fourth line instead of someone like Ruutu, Fisher can movie down to third line where he should be, with Nick and Ryan, we have a solid consistant defence, (if we don’t already) and it really would be all to much of a setback of Cheechoo doesn’t deliver.
I’m i going insane over this Heatley trade, is any of this worrying, or playing gm even neccisary?
by xBKx14 on Sep 13, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, otherwise he would have been part of the trade. If I were the Sharks, I wouldn’t want to part with him either.
by Mark Parisi on Sep 13, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the sens fans here can agree that we could use just one more peice, a second line center.
the question is, how do you guys think we could get one?
disregarding the things i said about ajusting the defence. a center is our one top priority.
and thanks sharks fans here for the words of encouragement on your recently departed players. i’m sure heatley and thorton will click. gifted goal scorer meets gifted play maker? it’s a no brainer what the result would be. just hope he feels like sticking around in a few years. to avoid that, you deffinetly don’t want to put him on the second pp unit.
anyway, any ideas about the second line center? any possibilities you guys can make up?
by xBKx14 on Sep 13, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mats Sundin? Robert Lang? Phil Kessel?
by PeterR on Sep 13, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sundin= no way in the fucking world.
robert lang= meh, no i’m not feeling that.
kessel= YES YES YES. if only he could possibly fit in the cap.
who knows what could happen….
probably nothing. but we can hope.
by xBKx14 on Sep 14, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
Finally, there’s also the things that stats ignore. Though Dany Heatley is a great scorer, he was a frequently lazy one-dimensional player that would have been a huge distraction for the club.
I’m willing to part with a disgruntled floater for some return that could have some serious upside. Cheechoo had a down year last year, perhaps, but he’s not that far removed from having a dominant season. Maybe he’s motivated to be THAT guy again.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 13, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gretzky was a floater .. .he workd out all right
by aagoodfella on Sep 14, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A disgruntled one?
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 14, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you just compare Heatley to Gretzky? That’s completely unrealistic and a cherry-picked arguement.
by Mark Parisi on Sep 14, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i only wrote one comment … apparently you like to read a lot more into it
bloggy used the term floater in a derogatory context. I merely pointed out that players who assume the floater role are not necessarily bad. Gretzky was a floater who hung out on the periphery of battle, albeit postioned to grab pucks that floated loose.
try not to fabricate an argument where none exists next time. It is weak.
by aagoodfella on Sep 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More correctly...
…I used the term “disgruntled floater”.
And floater is a derogatory term, leastways in talking to all the hockey guys I’ve ever talked to. And the original comment made by Darren was “frequently lazy one-dimensional”, which is definitely not Gretzky.
I would use the term “skill player” for Gretzky, not floater.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 17, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won’t be as good as we should have been last season, considering all the players who underperformed.
But we should be better than we were last year, hopefully better enough to make the playoffs.
by PeterR on Sep 13, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after Clouston took over, the Sens generated points at a rate that would have produced 100+ over a full season. The Sens were one of the strongest teams in the East. If the Sens do not score more than 100 points this year, you can attribute the difference to the trade discount the Sens took to dump Heatley.
by aagoodfella on Sep 14, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a reductionist argument if I’ve ever heard one. And it presumes the Senators would have recorded 100+ points had they not traded Heatley, which is presuming a lot.
by PeterR on Sep 14, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you think presuming that the Sens can perform at the same level (on a points scored basis) with roughy the same personnnel is unrealistic from one season to the next. The only basis for that being an unrealistic assumption is if the remainder of the league make competitive gains relative to the Sens, which i think is a lot more unrealistic. You might want to brush up on variance analysis.
by aagoodfella on Sep 16, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Peter. The same line-up can get wildly different results in 2 years, let alone a line-up with as many changes the Senators have had, both before and after the Heatley trade.
by DarrenM on Sep 14, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone seen the maple leafs' post about the heatley trade on sbn??
The leafer reaction is probably the most unprofessional article i’ve ever read, honestly. Over time, i’m finding myself feeling worse and worse about the trade. Are we really doomed to be a bad team? Am i losing my mind?
by xBKx14 on Sep 13, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nobody can even tell how we will do until the season is underway. We’re a complete wildcard.
by DarrenM on Sep 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone seen the maple leafs' post about the heatley trade on sbn??
Cant find it, where is the link?
I look forward to reading this, we are very fortunate to have a couple of guys running the sens ‘unofficial’ site who have some common sense.
The guy on the Montreal site was bashing Bryan Murray a little while back, and some of his facts where totally wrong!
I when reviewing other team fan sites about the senators, I would add a little pinch of salt when reading.
by Eado on Sep 13, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s one of the fanposts on the right-hand sidebar.
Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.
by PPP on Sep 13, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's one of the main posts on the blog site
by xBKx14 on Sep 13, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha...
Yeah, Robert was a little off-base on that post. I was going to point out his errors, but saw that you (or someone… ) had already done the dirty work.
by PeterR on Sep 13, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
It was funny to see him draw a line through only one of his errors, and not to forget it was a brutal undeserved go at Mr Murray.
by Eado on Sep 14, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, when we see what kind of monstrosity Gainey’s experiment turns out to be, maybe we’ll get the last laugh.
by PeterR on Sep 14, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sharks fans think
that Cheechoo can become a goal-scorer again, although certainly not going to reach 50 goals again. This past season he only had 12 goals, but he was coming off surgery and was often injured. The biggest explanation for his scoring drought is the fact that he played on the third or fourth line with the likes of Marcel Goc and Mike Grier. Obviously those guys wouldn’t help him much offensively.
With a change of scenery I think Cheech can score 20-30 goals.
by idunno723 on Sep 13, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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