Game 16: Ottawa Senators @ Philadelphia Flyers
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 6:00 PM EST
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Ottawa Senators at Philadelphia Flyers, Nov 12, 2009 7:00 PM EST
Darren's Take: There's been enough talk in the media about how this is the first time that the Senators will face former goaltender Ray Emery, so I'm going to skip that analysis. The things I'm going to be paying attention to:
- Pascal Leclaire, who has to bounce back after letting in a soft goal late in the third against the Oilers. Bringing his SV% above .900 would be great, too.
- Jonathan Cheechoo, who starts on the second line tonight. After breaking his goalless slump with a beautiful one-timer last game, Cheech has to continue to get pucks in the net.
- Alex Kovalev, who is coming off of a very strong performance where a physical forecheck led to the Cheechoo goal. Let's hope he keeps up the intensity.
- Discipline, something the Senators had in spades last game as they were shorthanded only once. The Sens need to keep that up against the Flyers, who have a dangerous and talented powerplay.
- The line of Nick Foligno-Peter Regin-Ryan Shannon, which was absolutely buzzing last game and should be plenty of fun to watch again tonight.
- How the Senators play against one of the few Stanley Cup contenders they've faced this season. The Flyers have a great team, and Ottawa has not fared well against strong opponents during the season.
As always, feel free to post away in the comments during the game along with the other diehards who should be present.
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Who here is listening to Debarge – Rhythm of the Night to pump up?
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who here is listening to CPAC to pump up?
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s some kind of lawyer joke, I bet
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Not quite. CPAC is the Canadian Parliament television channel, which I figured would be appropriate for Ottawa.
I don’t watch it.
But I guess there is law involved, so you were half right.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone who hasn't seen it
http://www.silversevensens.com/2009/11/12/1143208/why-was-comrie-not-good-enough-for
Go comment on this FanPost. And whenever you have interesting points of debate, post your own. It’d be nice to get a community here that is more than people commenting on game day threads or telling me I’m wrong about everything.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I figured I’d hit that up after the game. I’m interested to see what Marv posted.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, Leclaire should be better than Emery. We need him to be.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Leclaire is better than Emery, but with a weaker defense.
I am amazed at the quality of shots that Leclaire faces every game. It’s disgusting. I should write about it.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should. And everyone would ignore it, like your penalty columns. Pisses me off.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have lots of readers, just pretty much all of them are too lazy to register an account. Maybe I’m not controversial enough?
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe you’re just so on point there’s not much left to discuss.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, you’re sweet.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wait until you join the podcasts. You’ll reconsider your opinion of me after the 10th Higlander joke.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
come on, with Highlander jokes, as with Highlander….
There can only be one.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting destroyed in the faceoff circle
5-1 as of writing.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Regin had the only win. And Kovalev’s turnovers are hurting us.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kelly just won one. Regin was the other.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still, again, it looks like Ottawa can play with this team. It’s always the penalties that keep us out. Let’s hope Lee didn’t cost us a goal here.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not watching yet
how was the penalty? bad one?
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was justifiable. Lee just got too aggressive.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lee called for roughing is almost as bad as Kane called for roughing (outside of a cab driver in Buffalo).
I’m back and hopefully my luck continues as the Sens seem to always win when I come here during game threads.
By the way, how’s Matt Carkner been playing as the Sens have been playing on the same nights as the Hawks?
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He's been solid
He keeps it simple, and has done fairly well. He makes a couple of blunders here and there, but they are rarely costly.
He hasn’t been a liability, which is better than other D the Sens have, but he hasn’t been a standout either.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s a fair asessment. His game has dropped off a little from the start, but I blame Picard for that. Picard is my most hated Sen right now.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks guys I appreciate that.
Everything high on Emery, wonder why? He’s down every shot Price like.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not an expert, but I’ve always felt that Emery was the kind of goalie who relied too much on his athleticisim to make plays. His lateral movement has always been weak in my eyes (remember Pominville) and I think he covers it up with his athletic talent. Based on that, I suspect they’re shooting high on him because that’s their best opportunity to get rebounds. Or, if he’s a fraction of a second slow, a goal. If he’s flicking out his blocker or glove, he has less of a chance to control the rebound. That’s my theory, anyway.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember Pominville? That goal ruined my playoff pool that season as I had it all but won with Havlat’s start against the Lightning.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was to get rebounds
Too bad there was no Donovonian “SAP” (slot-area presence, which is a Pierre Maguire-ism). What good is a rebound if the Flyers just clear it out?
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cheechoo hit a post. He’s looking good again.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That was sick
He’s driving the the slot, which is how he’s had success in the past.
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ottawa the most penalized team in the league and Carkner leads the league in fighting majors? Really? When did this transformation take place?
Conversely, the Blackhawks are the least penalized team in the league which has baffled everyone over at SCH. Very untraditional for both teams.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There’s been a real rash of lazy play on the team. As a result, they’ve been taking a ton of penalties. Stupid penalties, untimely penalties. It’s been very frustrating to watch. The PK has kept them afloat for a while, but without Volchenkov, they’re starting to spring leaks.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So without the Tank, the PK is tanking? Seems possible and ironic.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say they’re tanking, but they just can’t keep up the energy when they’re spending a whole period on the PK, which is the amount of minutes they’ve been averaging.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they’ve spent waaaay too much time in the box this year. Bad penalties at worse times.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THREE STARS OF FIRST PERIOD FOR OTTAWA WERE?
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clouston
Shannon
Phillips
No joke. They played a fantastic road period. Disciplined and opportunistic. One bad breakdown but Leclaire bailed them out.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff! We’re winning in morally sound goalies.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am really impressed with the fact that Ottawa looks like the better team right now.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Laperriere may have been just a wee bit over his head
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 12, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
his head is beaten to a pulp. looks painful.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carkner DESTROYED him.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He deserved it! As he just found out the hard way that fighting Matty-boy can be dangerous to your health.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was very rewarding to watch. Good for the Carkinator. I just wish that seeing him fight didn’t mean we’d be without our third-best defenceman for five minutes…
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've decided that being able to hold onto the puck and do nothing with is is an attribute
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 12, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I will buy you a Kovalev stickhandling tricks DVD.
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hitting the net is recommended, I hear.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh fuck
I don’t want to use the G-word, but…
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can just settle on Lalime-esque?
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BRUTAL
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Now that’s a positive attitude. With that said though teams that score first usually win over 60% of the games played since the lockout and receive a point about 70% of the time. Last year there wan’t an NHL team with a losing record after scoring first. Strange.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was Guh soft. I would say Huet soft but he’s been very good of late. O.K. Price soft or Toskala.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
On second thought, it was a softie on the short side, so that was actually Lalime soft.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You really like to lament past playoff failures don’t you.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leclaire has used up his supply of soft goals for the year.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Though I should note that he’s made at least 1 or 2 saves that Elliott wouldn’t have had, so it balances out?
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like the ’If a tree falls… ’ question: If you stop the hard ones but let in the soft ones, are we any better off?
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Having Kelly checked into the bench can only help us
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 12, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If only he’d get checked into the press box, and Dono could take his place…
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Fisher will show you some trick or two.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fisher had such a big smile after drawing that penalty.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Time for our PP to suck!
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Now it would be only approriate for the Sens to score after Betts’ garbage goal. He puts them up, then puts them down.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FISHER!
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What the hell? That looked like an NHL PP!
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What’s good for one goose is good for another. Brutal GA for Emery.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we are going to win by six
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 12, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seven!
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You need help my son to deal with your issues. Your up and down like a fucking yo-yo.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Penalty. Again.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There’s the Sens we have come to know
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jarkko Ruutu is a complete idiot. Nothing more, nothing less.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, the guy drafted after Kane just scored. Van Riemmyassdick.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Using the Ducks goal song is really endearing me to this team
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 12, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They want to be like the Ducks, unfortunately for the Flyers the Ducks had Giguere to backstop them to a champoinship, not Emery. The Flyers are pretty much destined to be upset in the 1st round with their goaltending, especially within a conference with Brodeur, Fleury, Miller, and Lundqvist.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So that makes three teams I hate that are trying to be the Ducks
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 12, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re not doing a good job trying to be like their old selves… but I still hate them.
Plus their jerseys and logos are ugly.
…-er than ours, even.
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Emery made it through a few years ago in the same conference
He let in a soft one tonight, but he’s been great this year. He won’t be too much of an issue.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the names above. He will if he continues to look unstable. 2007 was 3 years ago and has nothing to do with today.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts exactly
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait... is Picard actually playing well tonight?
Also, huge save from Leclaire.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He is not. He has had good flashes but he has been below average again.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All three goals scored on PP.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if Anton reads this place but i don't really need one of my elbows
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 12, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's why we were given two off them...
I have ‘elbows’ checked off on my joint-donor card, but I’ll give Volchie an advance if he can kill off a few penalties…
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boooooo
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That was a pretty goal by the former Olympique.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pierre's right, wtf is this one-man-in business
by Andrew J on Nov 12, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was great in the first, but it is not getting the job done anymore.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Powe! And this game is over just like that.
Wish every player would’ve shown up like Fisher tonight.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Briere encore! LeClaire horrific! Not much else to say about that.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ugly showing.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Ugly game. Great first period and then Sens didn’t match the effort level. Way too many passengers tonight.
by Mark Parisi on Nov 12, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Should I be sorry I missed most of the game?
I saw about the first half. Looks like it went pretty quickly downhill after that.
by PeterR on Nov 12, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Not a bad first half, but a terrible second half. Just…. ugh.
Leclaire made a handful of beautiful saves, but let in a LOT of awful goals.
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by DarrenM on Nov 12, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck guys! Hopefully the Hawks can make everyone happy in Ottawa and throttle the Leafs tomorrow night. They should.
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by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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