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Erik Karlsson & Peter Regin Not At Practice, Speculation Ensues

It's causing a bit of buzz right now, so I figured I'd draw attention to it: Erik Karlsson and Peter Regin did not attend practice today. Brent Wallace from TSN just tweeted that they are sick, which is almost certainly true. However, a lot of fans looking at the schedule have realized that this is quite convenient timing, so I'll explain why.

Speculation is running rampant with Karlsson missing practice because he has now played 9 games. If he is sent down to Binghamton or back to Sweden, then this year does not count as a year on his entry-level contract. Therefore, sending Karlsson down makes very good cap management sense for the Ottawa Senators, because it means that they could have a better Erik Karlsson next year (and the two years following) for the same price he's at currently.

From my understanding of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, sending Peter Regin down does not save a year of his contract because of his age. Therefore, there are no rumours that he's being sent down, particularly since he has been one of Ottawa's better players in the early going.

Remember, the only thing confirmed here is that those two were not on the ice, and everything else is speculation, so take it with a grain of salt (or disregard it entirely). I'd be willing to bet that they really are both sick, and were given some time off to rest before the road-trip to Florida. In fact, I'm fairly confident that this is the case, because they are missing a practice, not a game. There's no benefit to the club to have Karlsson miss a practice, even if he's being sent to Binghamton -- Sens management would want him to get all the NHL experience he could before being sent down. However, Bryan Murray has stated repeatedly that Erik is being given every shot to make the team and won't be judged by the 9 game deadline, so that should stop most of the conspiracy theorists in their tracks instantly.

Regardless, to wash down that half-baked speculation, here is some good news: Filip Kuba was practicing with the team this morning. Huzzah!

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I don’t know what to think about Karlsson. I think I’d like him to stay in the NHL, but I think I’m getting that confused with wanting him to do well in the NHL. Staying here doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll do well.

I don’t think there’s any way Regin’s going anywhere, unless Melnyk said he’s sick of paying everyone NHL salaries and is drawing the line.

by PeterR on Oct 26, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's something that should make all of us sad.

Anze Kopitar leads the NHL with 21 points (!) in 12 games. We could have drafted him in 2005, yet we chose Brian Lee instead. Looks like that’s going well for us so far. =(

by Daggs28907 on Oct 26, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry dude, but that’s bullshit. Unless you have psychic powers or you’re from the future, there’s no way to tell how any player is going to turn out. Not only that, but the last thing the Sens of 2005 needed was more shooters. There was no organizational depth at D behind Chara, Phillips, Redden and Volchenkov. Meszaros was still an unknown, and Bingo had no one that was going to make an NHL team.

Drafting Kopitar on a team with Heatley, Alfie, Spezza, Havlat, Smolinski, Fisher and Eaves makes no sense. Even Neil had 16 that year!

Not only that, but there’s no guarantee that Kopitar would have developed into the same player in Ottawa’s system. He’s logged a lot of NHL minutes with the Kings; who’s to say he wouldn’t have been another Zubov with us, where he couldn’t ever break the lineup?

When it comes to sports drafts, hindsight is pointless. The combination of variables that go into player development make it impossible to say that a good player in one organization would be good in another. 132 players were picked before Alfie — including by Ottawa: Radek Bonk, Neckar, Masotta, and Mike Gaffney, Do you think that’s a mistake and every NHL team missed his talent, or could it just be that Ottawa was exactly the right environment to help him grow into the player he is now?

by Mark Parisi on Oct 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s racist!

by Mark Parisi on Oct 26, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he means xenophobic.

by PeterR on Oct 26, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gretzky was half Slovenian, you dirty hatemonger.

by Mark Parisi on Oct 26, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude

you are right that hindsight is pointless.

BUT

to say that he could’ve have been a zubov is absolutely incorrect.
kopitar is very underrated among eastern conference spectators. he is a massively massively talented player: big and fast with exceptional vision and great hands. he is a franchise piece and the kings are being built around him. he may have gotten less nhl icetime earlier in his career here, much like what jason spezza went through. but he would not have been kept in the ahl to the detriment of his own development.

drafting kopitar on a team with heatley, alfie, spezza, havlat, smolinski, fisher and eaves would make perfect sense. first of all…smolinski, fisher and eaves? you dont change your first round draft strategy because of those players. second, imagine an ottawa team with spezza kopitar as c1, c2, and one of heatley and alfie playing shotgun with each of them.

you need to draft the best talent available. obviously hindsight is 20/20. minnesota took pouliout 4th overall that year. but that is why scouting is the most important part of the front office. i wish often that our scouting department had pegged kopitar instead of mr. minnesota brian lee. remember lee was picked 9th, kopitar 11th. so it wasnt like he was some unknown that they would totally have missed.

anyways…your right…except about zubov. i just like kopitar. sorry.

by Buz Killington on Oct 27, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to say that he could’ve have been a zubov is absolutely incorrect

No, it’s not. I’ve followed his career (one of my good friends is a Kings fan) since he was drafted and a major reason for his development is the tons of minutes he’s gotten in LA. He wouldn’t have gotten the same time in Ottawa, and very likely would have spent more time in Bingo, like Lee.

smolinski, fisher and eaves? you dont change your first round draft strategy because of those players

Of course it’s easy to say this in hindsight. But in 2005:

Fisher: 22G 22A
Smolinski: 17G 31A
Eaves: 20G 9A

Even Vermette:

21G 12A

This was a good, young (with the exception of Smolinski) core who had improved year after year. Where would Kopi even fit in? They had 314 goals as a team that year. Dont forget Havlat’s playoff line from that year: 7G 6A in 10GP. Drafting a forward with that much good young talent and the dearth of defensive depth would have been absolutely irresponsible of Muckler and would have led to more playoff losses like what they suffered against Buffalo that year.

Especially with the upcoming Chara/Redden decision. I’m sure Kopi was high on their list, but a defence was a need that couldn’t have been ignored.

by Mark Parisi on Oct 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be amazed if Regin is sent down, especially after the game he played against Boston. Foligno-Regin-Neil was a forceful line for most of the night and he had a point in his first game back against Nashville. He hasn’t done anything to get sent down. Shannon should go first, and I don’t think he’s earned a trip either.

by Mark Parisi on Oct 26, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sick

Karlsson and Regin didn’t look sick after the game in Moxies.

by Eado on Oct 26, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

when you have such a big payday why are you going to moxies?

Silver Seven: the Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa Senators blogs.

by DarrenM on Oct 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better Moxies than the ‘Den or Barefax. But given their payday and that they’re young and single….?

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that I’m complaining, or trying to say anything bad about about them, but the way some of the waitresses and hostesses dress at Moxie’s, there’s good reason for young single guys to go to Moxie’s, too.

by PeterR on Oct 28, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just find moxie’s a funny choice because they have a moxie’s in Prince George, BC, and when I moved to Vancouver for this fall term I met up with a buddy from down south who suggested we go to Moxie’s for dinner.

Silver Seven: the Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa Senators blogs.

by DarrenM on Oct 28, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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